Actually I do a lot of programming with Windows and Linux, work projects, uni assignments and personal hacks. Infact, if you just type 'frees' into Google you'll see search recommendations such as 'freestyler 0.6/0.7' which is a really popular bot I made for some lame game in my spare time.

By Windows SDK I meant the SDK containing the necessary function definitions (header, libraries, etc) for using say, the winsock library in your project. It's about 4.0GB in size and is unique to your operating system and CPU architecture. This is probably the largest thing you would download next to the MSDN library which is available online for browsing. As for GUI toolkits like wxwidgets, I alternate between wxdevc++ and visual c++ depending on whether I need to include inline ASM into my code (seeing as I'm not so proficient with AT&T assembly syntax). If I'm not mistaken, I'm sure wxDevC++ is less than 50MB.

Anyway, my experience aside.. I just don't see downloading programming libraries as an excuse for high bandwidth consumption. In many uni level assignments, most students will get their files from their lecturer or classmates. For example if you do indeed need MSSQL server (non express version) for a project, you would pick the DVD up from campus or get it from a friend. Even if you do download everything, at most you're looking at 5-10GB of files in total.

If you're going to 'raep' the bandwidth, it's going to be on Youtube, torrents and direct downloads. For some reason Youtube is streaming for HSBB users at 2.0MB/s per video which is really weird

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 3 2010, 11:37 PM

Lol okay, didn't know it was a matter of dignity to you

Yeap, it was very easy in fact. I set my 4mbps Streamyx to 192.168.1.1/24, 1mbps Jaring to 192.168.2.1/24 and I left Unifi on the 192.168.0.1/24 subnet. Then I started VMware on my desktop and gave it 4 virtual ethernet adapters. VM is running pfSense. I assigned 3 virtual adapters to each subnet (192.168.0.2/1.2/2.2) and set up gateway load balancing (round robin mode).

Performance for normal browsing sort of degraded because the HTTP traffic would be forced through the 1 and 4 mbps lines, but for uTorrent which uses multiple peers I was about to kick it up to about 2.6-2.8MB/s from the usual 2.2-2.3MB/s. Not really worth the effort IMO If I was rich as hell I'd apply for another 20mbps package and load balance 2x VIP20's but RM500/mth for a 40mbps residential line isn't really worth it.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 4 2010, 11:02 AM

Tokiya I see you're using Firefox. Anyway, to max out your line at 20mbps you will HAVE to use a download accelerator. Please get DownThemAll! addon for Firefox (http://www.downthemall.net/) and you will be able to download that file at 2000+KB/s (1500KB/s+ minimum I'm guessing but depends on that server). Make sure you set the segmentation (multipart download) to 10 parts, that way it will make 10 connections.

10x200 = 2000KB/s+ guaranteed.

Also, lol @ people who think single part download = max line speed. I've used 10mbps in Singapore for a week, it's also hits 100-200KB/s per thread on some servers. I'm all for bashing TM if they provide poor service but some people who don't even know how to fully utilize a 20mbps line are just coming up with the lamest excuses. Try to be more helpful guys, seriously <_>



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Actually I'm very happy with my Unifi line, I just want to make sure that new people who sign up also get the best out of theirs I've said this before, if you can get 20mbps locally you can get 20mbps internationally. You just have to know what tools to use. What's hilarious is that I'm sure 2mbps/4mbps users also utilize these techniques but they just come here and bash Unifi users instead of helping them.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 4 2010, 02:43 PM

Trust me, the moment the network slows down to Streamyx levels.. Unifi users (me included) are going to open the 'Extreme Unifail Slowdowns V1' thread to discuss achieving better line conditions. As for now however, the network is performing fine.

We'll probably reboot the whole LYN DC++ hub project since a lot of people can contribute 5-20mbps of upload bandwidth now. Even Streamyx users will benefit from Unifi users that way

NP, I'm very surprised some people don't know about this though

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 4 2010, 03:05 PM

I assume that by making more lanes, you mean upgrading international link capacity? I would not know how much additional bandwidth would be required but I'm sure TM already has done something about it. I keep mentioning how Youtube is playing abnormally fast for popular videos but not so much for videos with less than say.. 20k views, it's as though they have a local content distribution network for Youtube vids now. Perhaps this is a step they've taken to reduce the Youtube streaming load rather than attempting to throttle it down. People would be very suspicious if they signed up for a 20mbps line which was allocated RM15b in funding but be unable to play Youtube video's properly, you know?

Thing about Malaysia is we sort of live in between the West and the far East. We take our content from both sides. The only time you would be accessing local content is to grab news from the Star, Malaysiakini, do you banking with Maybank2u or chat here on Lowyat.net. There's only so much bandwidth you can add and the ISP always has cheaper options to just throttle everyone seeing as they have a little monopoly going on here.

What we can do about it however is to start up our own local peer-to-peer scene. Not only would it basically harness everyones downloads into a single network (RS/MU/Torrents/DDL), it would be extremely fast and save us a lot of international bandwidth. Think about it like recycling bandwidth. A single Unifi user's uplink can basically support 20x 1mbps users.. combine it with other Unifi/Streamyx users within a multi-source P2P network.. you get an amazing amount of bandwidth and 'local content' so to speak.

Saves bandwidth, time and cash. I think that would be the way forward, both heavy downloaders and standard users would be satisfied.

In terms of cars and highway capacity, why put more cars on the road in the first place when we can just carpool?

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 4 2010, 05:29 PM

The dlink router?

Should be ..

username : admin
password : <blank>

username : admin
password : telekom

Depends on your installer but username is always admin

Yeah you'll get about 1.6-1.8MB on most servers. If you want to exceed that you need more threads and DownThemAll only supports 10. Metaproducts MassDownloader supports and unlimited amount of threads but its not freeware and not as easy to use as DownThemAll which integrates into Firefox.

I would not recommend FlashGet, IDM or DAP (download accelerator plus ) because their algorithm makes the connection constantly 'burst', putting much more load on the webserver. Besides, they only support 8-16 threads.

You could also increase the max concurrent downloads to 2 files at a time. This will use 20 threads in total and definitely max out your 20mbps line.

We can use the IPTV network for P2P I think but I agree that they should not count local bandwidth.

Sometimes its not just the bandwidth that's available.. it's the protocol being used, latency and the routing of the server itself. Not all servers in the US have the same routing to Malaysia.. it depends on what carriers they're using and how they've set up their own network. It may even be the configuration and load of their own web servers.

In my own experience.. even on a 100mbps LAN network with <1ms latency, the HTTP protocol maxes out at 3.5MB/s per thread. We can't be sure that getting 200KB/s per HTTP thread is due to poor routing or lack of bandwidth on TM's part. For example, using OpenVPN in TCP mode will max the line out at 300KB/s for me but switching it over to UDP will net me about 600-900KB/s in a single connection to a US server. You've also seen the FTP test results for yourself.

Why is it that these HTTP downloads are maxing out at 200KB/s per thread but FTP based downloads reach 800KB/s and uTorrent peers are getting me up to 500KB/s per peer from US based servers? Protocols, network conditions (on both sides) and server configuration matters a lot and right now there's no sign that Unifi is lacking bandwidth.

And er regarding 100mbps for local traffic, that should be implemented but I'm not sure how they would do it. Right now, they use a service level VLAN where they split IPTV and Internet access into two VLANs and limit bandwidth based on that. If they were to allow 100mbps locally, some people may exploit the system by re-routing traffic through local datacenters to get 100mbps internationally. It would have to be applied at the IP level and between Unifi and Streamyx users only.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 4 2010, 06:44 PM

Well I based that on experience from about.. I don't know, 5-8 years back? It could have even been the software I was using. I'll take your word for it then that HTTP transfers max out at 10MB/s+ now on a 100mbps link.

I don't think they're limiting TCP streams but what's certain is that different servers and protocols yield different results.

Regarding download accelerators, I do agree that they're taxing on web servers (which is why I crossed out some of them). Resources are allocated per thread and there's even a timeout period so download accelerators that constantly create new connections (while keeping the total amount less than what has been set) are bad.

But the fact that download accelerators are so prevalent itself -- even within the US, means that they do have to be utilized to maximize your line regardless of which ISP you're on. Like I said, there are tons of factors to take into account. You can have an ISP that doesn't throttle connections at all and has tons of bandwidth to spare but you're connecting to a server with such bad connectivity that you're looking at 200KB/s per thread.

It works both ways

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 4 2010, 06:56 PM

Should add a score for the set top box performance too. Interface is laggy as hell, they even try to do some 3d poster change effect on the VOD page.. in the end it's like running flash on a pentium 1.

The DECT phone they gave me is quite clear though, perhaps there's some device causing interference on your side?

It's 60 gigabytes lar, GB is universal for gigabyte. Don't tell me you buy a 500GB hard drive from lowyat and when you format it its 60 gigabytes.. then the shop keeper tells you its actually a 500 gigabit hard drive?

I'd stab that guy in the f**king face

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 6 2010, 02:01 PM

1. The speed is same as what the switch on the DLINK router is rated at - 10/100mbps. As for actual usage is should be 8mbps

2. Should be able to do that

Yea installation sure kills a lot of time. Don't know how long new subscribers are going to have to wait, I called them the morning after Najib did his surfing on TV

Inside

Sorry for the late reply been out the whole day.

I have not tried it myself but this is what I assume is correct based on peoples experience on this forum, my own experience and networking logic.

The Fiberhome modem must be connected to the WAN port on the TMnet Dlink Wireless N router. This is because it uses custom firmware which has VLAN tags for certain ports. I saw someone here manage to get it running with his own modem however he said he had to sniff the packets (probably using a hub in between the fiberhome <-> tmnet dlink modem) to get the VLAN tag IDs. There would be no way to separate IPTV and Internet traffic without this VLAN support.

So you need to have a router with firmware that supports VLANs and you need to know the VLAN ID to achieve this basically.

If you want to use your _own_ wireless router as a wireless AP, you have to log into your _own_ wifi router first and do this :

1) Set its IP to 192.168.0.2 (not necessary but helps you config it later while hooked into Unifi)
2) Disable it's DHCP server
3) Set up the wireless AP parameters (encryption type, key, etc.)

Then you can plug the normal LAN port (not uplink/Internet/WAN port) on your _own_ wireless router into one of the blue coloured ports on the TMnet Dlink router. You cannot plug your own equipment into the fiberhome modem directly without it supporting VLANs and knowing the VLAN IDs. See attachment.


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DHCP will be handled by the TM wireless router. You have to turn it off on your own wifi router before you link it with the TM router cause it will conflict if you have 2 dhcp servers running. By turning DHCP off you're just using your old wifi router as a wireless access point and ensuring that there is only 1 DHCP server on your network which is the TM wifi router.

From what I saw during install, the fiberhome modem is running some integrated linux/unix system. It has no web access and they used a USB<->Ethernet device to start a shell session with it and perform some configuration with a command line interface. You don't even need to access this as the fiberhome modem because it is running in bridge mode and not as a router.

The fiberhome modem runs in bridge mode and has an inbuilt switch with 4 LAN ports and a console port. As one of these 4 LAN ports is wired into your WAN/Internet port, no LAN communication can occur between the fiberhome modem and PCs after the TM dlink modem. The fiberhome modem has no DHCP server and TM has basically locked it down from access. You're not supposed to alter its configuration. The reason your TM router is able to communicate with it is because its only passing PPPoE connections which require no IP addressing. This is also why you cannot have 2 PCs plugged into the LAN ports on the fiberhome modem and another into your TM wifi router and have them communicate -- they are separate networks.

As for what LAN2, 3 and 4 are used for, I guess the fiberhome modem supports multiple PPPoE links and other TM routers can plug into it to utilize the fiber connection much like how you can set your Streamyx ADSL modem into bridge mode, plug it into a switch/hub and have multiple streamyx accounts dial up through it (but limited to the max ATM link speed).

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 8 2010, 10:48 PM

TM orange wifi-N router?

IP should be your default gateway IP -- 192.168.0.1 normally

Username : admin
Password : <blank>

Username : admin
Password : telekom

Idk should be the first one but depends on your installer

Er I don't think their firmware lets you turn it off completely. At most you can reduce the transmit power to 12.5%

Edit : Yeah I'm looking at the original DLINK DIR-615 manual and it has the feature to disable/enable wireless. Looks like TM removed it when they reflashed. Perhaps you could disable it manually if you ssh/telnet into the router but the user/pass login for the SSH daemon on the router is not the same as the login for the web page. Gotta ask TM for it

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 8 2010, 11:11 PM

Yeap.

51ms stable

I get the same connection quality in BC2 as I did with Streamyx. When my Unifi was just installed, it was 1x-2x ms.. but 2 days later it became 4x-5x ms like Streamyx.

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Anyway, for those of you wondering about the VLAN tags/IDs.. there's no need to guess anymore :

Internet VLAN ID is 500 :


IPTV VLAN ID is 600 :


If you're interested in sniffing the VLAN IDs yourself, you will need to either have 2 NICs or 1 hub. In this case I used my old ISDN 10mbps hub. Wire the DLink router WAN/Internet port, fiberhome modem and a PC running Linux into the hub. Fire up Wireshark and you're good to go It has to be Linux because the Windows Realtek and Intel NIC drivers automatically dump the VLAN information and you wont capture any. VLAN settings should be same for every TM router so this is the info you're going to need if you want to use your routers with custom firmware (dd-wrt?).

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Apr 9 2010, 12:40 AM