I notice some juddering in the V20 when watching the Byond HD channels. Is this normal?

Tks, that's a relief. But then i did not notice on my old LG 42-inch HD-ready screen. Maybe it's more noticeable on the 50-inch ful HD screen.

Yes, I was watching Byond on the LG. I tested with BD and the palyback was smooth. So most probably it was Byond. I also notice if i disable the Intelleigent Frame feature on the V20, I notice the images becomes bluring, and nearly make me nauseous.

Err...need some help on where to find this option for adjusting the 100Hz. Appreciate if you can tell me.

No problem, bro. But I think we need to really discuss and challenge Panasonic if it is an inherent design problem which has been glossed over. As anfieldude mentioned, there's a very large discussion going on in AVforums.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/...y-pan-shot.html

The users there are really up in arms with Panasonic on this issue. Maybe we should emulate them?

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Added on July 22, 2010, 4:50 pmFor anybody interested, this is waht panasonic claims:

http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2010/pr...v20_plasma.html

This post has been edited by allycat: Jul 22 2010, 04:50 PM

It's noticeable. I was watching NCIS LA on AXN HD, and I notice the blurring when the character moves. I also notice certain small pixellation. Maybe it's my eyes that need to time to adjust after migrating to a 50-inch FullHD set.

When I watch NTV7 which is SD, the moving news banner at the bottom will also sometimes get distorted. I've never notice them in my previous set. I can confirm this I read them everytime.

Well, maybe another pair of eyes is needed to really confirm this issues. I can't wait for the 250hrs to be up so that I can get it calibrated by anfieldude.

This weekend I'm going play all the BDs and see if these issues crop up or not. If not, most probably it's Byond's issue.

I emailed Panasonic and their engineer is coming to check my V20 this Sat.

I think that those of you who are having motion blur, judder, artefact problems should email Panasonic. In this way, we can get better response and solution from them.

If most of just keep quiet and just complain in the forum, I doubt Panasoic will take us seriously.

Tks for the advice, anfieldude.

I still have my old LG set and I can drag it out to test side by side with them. As to their service, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. In this age of internet, it's very easy to escalate a complain.

Hi PoorMan,
My set is set at Cinema mode.

If you watch History and NG HD, you'll notce these problems as there are a lot of panning scenes across terrain esp grassy fields.

If you watch dramas like NCIS LA, CSI or others, you will notice the blurring when the actors move esp when they move and turn towards you.

I don't know if it is possible to switch to 100Hz in the system maintenance menu, but I dare not try it as it may void the warranty. Any brave souls want to try it?

Allycat

Tks, Anfieldude.

Let's see wait and see how the Panasonic engineer resolve these issues.

Allycat

Just an update on the defects I've seen on my V20. The engineer came and saw what I meant. He needs to report to his professional member for further resolution, and will contact me again.

I'll post further updates after their professional feedback.

But seriously, doesn't anybody else seeing what I've been seeing on y V20 ie. motion blurring, judderring etc?

Hi Blade63,
I notice some but not so much in DVD. Compating DVD and BD sources, the defect is more noticeble for BDs.

Allycat.

BD source is BD player Pioneer 320.

Yes, it's original, bought from Amazon UK.

As for other BD player, have to look around but I don't think it's the problem. I don't see these defects when I use my Pioner with my old LG plasma.

NTSC or PAL? Does it apply for BD and DVD? I thought only the Regions is the important criteria. Pls enlighten.

Tks

I checked with an AV specialist. He said Region 1 is with NTSC and Region 2 is with PAL. But both types will only give you difference in colour and contrast levels. Region 1 will have better contrast levels than Region 2 but Region 2 will give richer colurs. Both Regions will not cause motion blurr or juddering when playing back on a BD player that can play all regions.

Any experts care to comment or add to it?

Allycat.

Tks, anfieldude.

I'll consider your advice when I'm ready for your calibration.

But I think it will be very cumbersome to cater for both NTSC and PAL exactly, as this mean I've to change input when playing Region 1 or 2 BDs.

What about BDs that says all Regions? How do I handle that?

Allycat

PS: But then it doesn't explain the defects seen on Byond.

Tks, anfieldude. Hopefully I have better luck with Panasonic Malaysia.

I also hope more M'sian V20 users, who are having these problems, will report to Panasonic Malaysia so that we can get better response from them. Please don't settle for a product that is not living up to its claimed performance or having noticeable defects.

Allycat

Tks, Steadypana.

I'm also ahvig a new unit. It's only 168 hrs burn in. Let's hope there's a solution from Panasonic.


Allycat

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Added on August 3, 2010, 11:26 amTks blade63.

Already mentioned what to look for in my above posting. Byond History HD, NG HD and AXN HD. Slow panning scenes, mid to large figures moving and turning.

For BDs, look out for mid- to large figures moving and turning. Also look at panning scenes.

Cable is a good one, QED Signature. So I don't think it is the problem. But then I believe any HDMI 1.3a cable should not affect the Byond. Pls correct me if I'm mistaken.

Allycat

This post has been edited by allycat: Aug 3 2010, 11:26 AM

Hi Blade63,
Tks for the article. I did read it before when i encountered my problems with the V20.

Yes, my BD player supports all the full HD features incl 24p.

Going to get a second set of eyes to evaluate the V20 picture quality. Just in case my eyes are playing tricks on me

Allycat