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rayloo
post Jul 27 2011, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(lytros @ Jul 27 2011, 01:30 PM)
Tower Reits price hit RM1.29 today. Expecting higher dividend compared to last year? Fingers crossed....
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If I were you I would dispose all Tower REITs share, which actually I did 6 months ago. Due to the reason of declining demand of office lots since there are more newer buildings are coming up.

Therefore the future is known for limited growth to expect. Just my 2 cents.
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(rayloo @ Jul 27 2011, 02:59 PM)
If I were you I would dispose all Tower REITs share, which actually I did 6 months ago. Due to the reason of declining demand of office lots since there are more newer buildings are coming up.

Therefore the future is known for limited growth to expect. Just my 2 cents.
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and when there's fear in the market.. crazy disposal.. value investors steps in tongue.gif
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 27 2011, 03:05 PM)
and when there's fear in the market.. crazy disposal.. value investors steps in tongue.gif
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Nothing to goreng, goreng REITs ? Hahaha
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 27 2011, 03:06 PM)
Nothing to goreng, goreng REITs ? Hahaha
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Play DY% mar. Price plummets, and enter during fear = good DY% if div paid out doesnt plummet in same % as market price. Boney - U & i + most others here know market's price is not 100% reflective of actual business mar. Thus value hunters will definitely snap them up at certain price points tongue.gif

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post Jul 27 2011, 03:18 PM

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Yea.. Slow and steady win the race..
No wonder I always lose.. Want fast fast fast.. Fast in fast out.. Sigh
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 27 2011, 03:18 PM)
Yea.. Slow and steady win the race..
No wonder I always lose.. Want fast fast fast.. Fast in fast out.. Sigh
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Wei - heard U making a killing at the other topic tongue.gif

Anyways, why not best of both worlds? Take 5% of yr net worth or portfolio and go trade? Scratches the itch + still controlled risk & growing. I bet U doing this while your slow & steady mountain keeps piling up brows.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 27 2011, 03:25 PM)
Wei - heard U making a killing at the other topic tongue.gif

Anyways, why not best of both worlds? Take 5% of yr net worth or portfolio and go trade? Scratches the itch + still controlled risk & growing. I bet U doing this while your slow & steady mountain keeps piling up  brows.gif
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Sometime fast in fast out, will fall down and get hurt de leh sad.gif
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 27 2011, 03:27 PM)
Sometime fast in fast out, will fall down and get hurt de leh sad.gif
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That's why gotta use protection (Entry & Exit rules) right? With a plan, U can avoid big injuries that will take U out for good. Minor bumps and scratches can heal easily in time, especially when U are controlling your exposure (sizing) and risk %. Right or right? tongue.gif

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post Jul 27 2011, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 27 2011, 03:06 PM)
Nothing to goreng, goreng REITs ? Hahaha
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Goreng REIT is a good strategy too.. but you need huge capital...and low trading fee. I have previously read someone's track record, they can get >5k per month consistently from goreng-ing REIT's tongue.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 27 2011, 03:58 PM)
Goreng REIT is a good strategy too.. but you need huge capital...and low trading fee. I have previously read someone's track record, they can get >5k per month consistently from goreng-ing REIT's  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif
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Good lord - really? Reverse methodology of warrants & options (leveraged to the hilt)?

Huge capital + low trading fees..in terms of net returns over capital exposed (employed) should be very very thin lor. May be worth the effort & risk if this capital is just a small part of his/her total net worth gua.

When loading up, how to ensure the volume doesnt move market price up and when unloading - how to ensure it doesn't move the market price down (such volume wor)?

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 27 2011, 03:37 PM)
That's why gotta use protection (Entry & Exit rules) right? With a plan, U can avoid big injuries that will take U out for good. Minor bumps and scratches can heal easily in time, especially when U are controlling your exposure (sizing) and risk %. Right or right?  tongue.gif
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U leave me no other option but to say RIGHT! smile.gif
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Hahaha
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post Jul 27 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 27 2011, 04:08 PM)
Good lord - really? Reverse methodology of warrants & options (leveraged to the hilt)?

Huge capital + low trading fees..in terms of net returns over capital exposed (employed) should be very very thin lor. May be worth the effort & risk if this capital is just a small part of his/her total net worth gua.

When loading up, how to ensure the volume doesnt move market price up and when unloading - how to ensure it doesn't move the market price down (such volume wor)?
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REIT are relatively stable... so with large capital & low trading fees, you might eek out 0.3%-0.5% gain in each trade (after fees). Lets say you trade once a day, for 26 days the miniscule returns will be compounded, I am sure you can count the returns? not bad right? laugh.gif

If a trade do fail, mah keep for dividends lor... sweat.gif and sell after the price goes up again. Worse come to worse REIT can at the most fall 1 cent/day only mah...

Heh I am still learning this methodology and still don't have the guts to try it out yet. sweat.gif
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Just do it.. Then you will ok ok in the future
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post Jul 27 2011, 04:52 PM

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Atrium first time proposed an acquisition.
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post Jul 27 2011, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 27 2011, 03:05 PM)
and when there's fear in the market.. crazy disposal.. value investors steps in tongue.gif
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Wrong, value investors step in for what ? Value ? Deteriorating value ?

Is time to run Office Related REITs while you still have reasonable or good yield. Don wait until the announcement about tenants vacancy or rental reduction.

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post Jul 28 2011, 02:03 AM

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when is arreit next dividend? Seems big volume throwing at 0.91 everyday?

Pls advise
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:19 AM

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Does anybody has info on Axisreit recently? they added some warehse something??

any1 pls???
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(BrendaChee @ Jul 28 2011, 02:03 AM)
when is arreit next dividend? Seems big volume throwing at 0.91 everyday?

Pls advise
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Hi Brenda.
Just a thought - big volume throwing at $0.91 means there are buyers also absorbing at $0.91 in volume - we cant have a SELL without a BUY in the market.

Maybe it'll be more evident by watching the price movement with the related volume - note that ARREIT's price have not moved much between $0.905 and $0.91 for umpteenth days brows.gif

er.. on the dividends.. CHERROY HELP!! tongue.gif


Added on July 28, 2011, 10:32 am
QUOTE(rayloo @ Jul 27 2011, 05:37 PM)
Wrong, value investors step in for what ? Value ? Deteriorating value ?

Is time to run Office Related REITs while you still have reasonable or good yield. Don wait until the announcement about tenants vacancy or rental reduction.
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Yes, i'm totally wrong. Please do go ahead and spread more fears. Thank you from the bottom of my wallet when the sell-off hits a price which is of value to me biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 28 2011, 10:34 AM
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(nasni @ Jul 28 2011, 10:19 AM)
Does anybody has info on  Axisreit recently?  they added  some warehse  something??

any1 pls???
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I taught this is old news already or no?

The previous private placement has already fund the acquisition.
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
REIT are relatively stable... so with large capital & low trading fees, you might eek out 0.3%-0.5% gain in each trade (after fees). Lets say you trade once a day, for 26 days the miniscule returns will be compounded, I am sure you can count the returns? not bad right? laugh.gif

If a trade do fail, mah keep for dividends lor...  sweat.gif and sell after the price goes up again. Worse come to worse REIT can at the most fall 1 cent/day only mah...

Heh I am still learning this methodology and still don't have the guts to try it out yet.  sweat.gif
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Bro Gark - any URLs or books for me to steal some kungfu on this REITs trading ar? I want to see the logic and work it out on Excel tongue.gif

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