Usually I have no problem with people believing with ghosts, until recently my superstitious housemate started annoying me. You see, she's convinced her room's haunted. She doesn't dare sleep with the light off. Her room is the only one with a light on at night, and because my house is an old house, and the walls let light shine in through small slits , I get light shining on my face every night. As a person who prefers complete darkness to sleep, this irritates me.

I've talked to her about her irrational beliefs, but she's still convinced her room's haunted. Even though the people who stayed in that room before never complained about ghosts or spirits.

I'm surprised that so many people voted Yes to believing in ghosts. I bet many of you who voted Yes are religious, yes? And I'm quite surprised at the lack of knowledge of basic physics. Thus far there is no concrete evidence for ghosts. The arguments I've read so far for the possible existence of ghosts are based on pseudo-science that sounds more like science fiction than experimentally verifiable theories.

This post has been edited by Andrew Lim: Oct 11 2010, 02:35 PM

Fear is an emotional response to a perceived threat. It is a basic survival mechanism which occurs when someone feels threatened by something he/she doesnt know. With reasoning and logic thinking lesser people will believe in all this pseudoscience crap.

I guess the dark still frightens a lot of people. It's kind of understandable, when it's dark one of your most important senses (sight) is practically useless. Your body probably doesn't like it so you start feeling anxious but you can't understand the source of anxiety some might attribute it to external phenomena like ghosts, spirits, Sauron, etc.

well as a muslim we should believe on it,as believe in "ghaib" thingy is a basis to our faith.

Lol..this says all about skeptics because I for one believe ghost do not exist. Who in their right minds will spend eternity scaring the crap out of us?

"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." - Delos McKown

What is the definition of Ghost ? i would rather call it as demons. Becasue when a human soul left the body, it will not be on earth but rather in hell or heaven.


Only Demons take form of human and live among us on this earth.

U can read the bible to understand clearly on this matter.

Do u guys know that haunted place are high in infrasound frequency? it can induce hallucination...

infrasound

Infrasound refers to extreme bass waves or vibrations, those with a frequency below the audibility range of the human ear (20 Hz to 22 kHz). Even though these waves can't be heard by us, they can be felt and have been shown to produce a range of effects in some people including anxiety, extreme sorrow, and chills. "Loud infrasound in the range of 0.5 to 10 Hz is sufficient to activate the vestibular, or balance system, in the inner ear."* Psychologist Richard Wiseman of the University of Hertfordshire thinks that the odd sensations that people attribute to ghosts may be caused by infrasonic vibrations.* He is not alone.

In 1998, Vic Tandy, experimental officer and part-time lecturer in the school of international studies and law at Coventry University, and Dr. Tony Lawrence of the psychology department wrote a paper called "Ghosts in the Machine" for the Journal of the Society for Psychical Research. They cited infrasound as the cause of apparitions seen by staff at a so-called haunted laboratory in Warwick.

Several years earlier, Tandy was working late in the "haunted" Warwick laboratory when he saw a gray thing coming for him. "I felt the hairs rise on the back of my neck," he said. "It seemed to be between me and the door, so the only thing I could do was turn and face it."* But the thing disappeared. However, it reappeared in a different form the next day when Tandy was doing some work on his fencing foil. "The handle was clamped in a vice on a workbench, yet the blade started vibrating like mad," he said. He wondered why the blade vibrated in one part of room but not in another. The explanation, he discovered, was that infrasound was coming from an extractor fan. "When we finally switched it off, it was as if a huge weight was lifted," he said. "It makes me think that one of the applications of this ongoing research could be a link between infrasound and sick-building syndrome." When he measured the infrasound in the laboratory, the showing was 18.98 hertz--the exact frequency at which a human eyeball starts resonating. The sound waves made his eyeballs resonate and produced an optical illusion: He saw a figure that didn't exist.*

Infrasonic waves can carry over long distances and are less susceptible to disturbance or interference than higher frequencies.

Infrasound may be produced by wind, by some types of earthquakes, by ocean waves, and by such things as avalanches, volcanoes, and meteors.* Elephants have the ability to emit infrasound that can be detected at a distance of 2 km. Even tigers emit infrasound.*

http://www.skepdic.com/infrasound.html

Things like ghost and paranormal activities do have scientific explanation. it's just we don't discover it yet.

I like to quote a riwayat if i may. i don't remember the exact word but it sounds just like this "Dip one of your finger into the ocean. the water around your finger is comparable the amount of human knowledge, while the water of whole ocean is the amount of God's knowledge"

Again and again and again (x3), why do u think that something might exist in the future when there is nothing to prove that for now?

Do you know ball lightning? there's no solid explanation yet about this phenomenon even though it happen around right here on earth and not on some distant star system. but i believe as technology advances, we may eventually find out what they really are.

This post has been edited by Fadly: Oct 16 2010, 07:16 PM

Keyword : Interpenetrating, with different space-time notion.

An object of which the speed of the vortex movement is increased above the speed of light will disappear from this physical universe and enter a super-physical universe. This super-physical universe has its own space-time realm, distinct from the physical space-time. The physical and super-physical universes are interpenetrating each other. They are not separated by space and time but by a dimension that is the speed of the vortex movement

http://www.sciforums.com/criterion-for-an-...eld-t-1178.html

This post has been edited by Royde: Oct 16 2010, 10:56 PM

As usual....but once u are experiencing it, u will start to believe a ghost.....there are many place where ghost can be found....

Okay im muslim but.. I think.. I dont believe in ghost.
Btw, when I was a child about 6 years old, I was in a car, sitting at the back next to my elder brother n younger sister while my dad was driving the car on a highway and my mom was sitting next to him. I was so bored during the journey to balik kampung i guess. I got nothing to do so i climbed up the seat and looking at behind the car. From far I saw there were 2 hantu pocongs(if u dunno just google image la) were hopping straight into the jungle next to the highway. I was small and that was the 1st time i saw a ghost. Never saw it even on tv. So I was kinda baffled but i just kept it to myself until when i was 10 years old n saw that ghost on tv then only I asked my mom about it.
This is a truth story guys.. Im not making up stories k. After that never encountered anything like that anymore.

But having said that, i still dont believe in the existence of ghost. Maybe what i saw was just someone trying to play ghost or something. Dunno.
Im not arrogant but if ghost really do exist I really would like to have a conversation with him/it and ask a LOOOOT of questions..

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Added on October 17, 2010, 12:10 amBlind faith bro

This post has been edited by izdyharz: Oct 17 2010, 12:10 AM

Unfortunatley. only Subatomic particles can survive the transition since the energy at the speed of light is infinite.

Theist and Atheist are 2 side of the same coin. Scientist who doesn't believe in the existence of God are known to hide any phenomenons that they've observed but can't explain. If someone else observed it, they will simply dismissed it as a myth and accuse the man of imagining things.

This post has been edited by Fadly: Oct 18 2010, 03:23 PM

Let me share with you an experience I had. I was once with 2 of my friends hanging out in Genting Highlands(on the way up near a stop with a sign board). It was a pretty deserted place in the middle of the night(1am). My friend suddenly heard a woman crying and the sound of some sort of dog growling and we immediately left that place as fast as possible.

I didn't hear a thing at all. My other friend thought he also heard it(he wasn't very sure). My friend believes in this crap. Its the power of suggestion. Being in the right place, at the right time, with people who believe in such things can lead to said person thinking they heard or saw something. You just need a sceptic in the midst of such events, and rationality returns

This post has been edited by frags: Oct 18 2010, 06:02 PM

So what do you call a non Theist and Atheist? Too much of science don't hurt but believing lead to all kinds of fear and bad assumptions, science dismiss anything that can't be quantify and nothing to begin with. By the time science can identify such things with technology, human life would change with the inclusive of paranormal and the value of life will not be the same as we see it with today's perception.

I hate DJs claim to be able to see ghost, they could have kept it to themselves but to openly claim that it exist is wrong, also National radio invited guests who also claim that spirit exist just not everyone can see / feel them, all of them have financial interests by such claims or make themselves special for the fame, pathetic. One of them even screamed on air because another DJ says something is next to her. isn't it clear that people abuse it to gain popularity and what good is there believing in ghost?

ermm i dont know what to say. but i do think they are around us.

my factory is over 34 years. people says the our company hall and wing B building was built on bunian's place.

ok let me tell you a few story.

1. 2 pictures of so-called ghost was taken, but it shows only smoke shaped like a big man.

2. there was a chinese welder died in confined space in heavy factory block C, when they want to clear the dead bodies, some of my subs took the his cigarette. haha then until now the people who work in that block always met the chinese welder smoking at our 200 tone overhead crane.

3. Wing B, the so-called bunian usually always kacau lelaki only. call by name, keyboard sounds, light on off, printer printing and the most fearful is merupa sebijik colleague. even daylight pun kena.

4. our hall which was a place for bunian to play(play football kot), last time guards always had sex with cleaner at back of the hall as said by my colleague. the consequence haih i forgot. only remember the reason.

5. what else? the flying ......... in our factory at night time.

haih minta jauh2 la benda ni.

The details explains it all. Always some old place, with some unverified history, and sex thrown in Voila instant haunt. As i said, power of suggestion.

Yeah spirit is gentle while ghost are haunting, ain't both the same dead people? Yeah some see dead people, please write a comprehensive book about their existence, I'll be the first to buy.