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SkywalkerxX
post Oct 19 2010, 10:47 PM

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i do think so it is different.
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post Nov 14 2010, 12:25 AM

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I was reading this thread yesterday and have a few thought and later that night saw a program "through the worm hole" at history channel astro where scientists and scholars talking about is it god who create the world or is it start with a big bang, and whether god and ghost really exist. Since all our theory are just speculation and no one can prove if they are right, so I am going to share with you guy two of my thoughts (which is not new) that they also mentioned on the program.

1. Our world's a simulation ( a la thirteen floor) where haunted place or ghost are just bugs in the program, or unfinished calculation, or something gone wrong, and some character got booted out from their skin. I personally subscribe to this theory, bcoz somehow I suspect life's like a game or a movie where once we push the play button, we're in it, like game, there are some scenario that we can't control, after we've been told what happen, then we can react, like all games and sims, we got bugs, I do believe in these bugs, coz I saw a few of them.

2. The capital G person, which I don't like to talk about, course it always ended up unhappy, but I really don't think there' one watching us from up above. So in the program, a neurologist created a helmet which he called it God helmet, which he said will stimulate the brain so that you'll encounter god like entity wink.gif so it's open for discussion, but still it's unlikely to get an answer, so I'll just forget it and go eat some ice cream laugh.gif
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post Nov 14 2010, 02:49 AM

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You are the first person that share my kind of impression of game like console but who is playing? We are not being controlled like our video game but lead to do things and what is the fun of playing or the genre of the game? Guide us in our dream and see us achieving the goal or fail miserably, push us to the extreme and see our reactions is the trophy.

I name it: "The evolving descendant game", when experienced player reload / reborn, they are allowed to bring something back and became geniuses to prophets, heroes and conquerers which are known as Karma. So heaven is our destiny if game over (died) but if become criminals, hell is designed to punish us.

The mind is independent but are not when asleep, try eat the food you don't eat and feel the different you. In such scenario, our parents are other players they brought us up to take care of them which is the rules of the game but if they fail or we fail, we will suffer and the noble few created charity home, shelter for the loser. To us, it is a reality game.

Like strategy game and new world order, players can choose to team up and wage war to conquer and expand, hence, we are lead by sentiment to propaganda. The Earth contains all the necessary element to form lives that our features evolved through time and we have a diverse species of plants and animals; "The garden of Eden", we utilize the same building blocks to recreate, no longer abide to natural law ever since we began to cook and cultivate food. Human do play god and invent devices that mimic our ability; The video camera is quite similar to our head that records sight and sound, it will have processor and record odor too in the future and the beginning of a robotic era is expectable.

Why isn't there a sub species that share half of our intelligent? Simple, human will abuse them and treat them as slave, but we are so weak compare with other animal babies that can stand in just a few hours while human need years? We could have extincted long ago and what kept us alive could be the foresee ability known as "Sixth sense". Human can walk on burning charcoal and endure body piercing is bizarre but its nothing new but what are ghost, spirit and soul in this game?

Ghost are meant scare us, Angels to console us, Spirit is an agent tongue.gif and soul is the term we call our players. I think I can write a block buster movie with it. icon_idea.gif



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post Nov 14 2010, 03:52 AM

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You guys talk about ghosts as if metaphysicians do not understand anything that is ethereal.

Notice that ghosts varies in trends, that ghost stories that pinpoint their existence are more rampant in modernization.

But before modernization? There are only talks of all things spirituals, and not of ghost hauntings or anything you can find in the movies today.

Check history, and you will know ghost stories revolves around modernization more rampant than when skyscrapers hasn't exist yet.

I may be naturally be terrified of seeing a ghost and will clutch myself for my own life as how I am reminded by movies and all sorts of folk-lores, but what will be more captivating to me in front of a presence of ghost is hope. The hope of revelation to all things intangible as ethereal, and how they are related to human life as a whole.

For we all know, we all have demons and ghosts in ourselves as our human conscience allow us to believe so. So why do you expect something that is visible to your eyes, when you can't even get rid of your trangressions of your life that seemed to either contribute or prolong your melancholy?

So if I do believe in ghosts, I can assure you, that I do not believe in their existence as an external form of matter.

It's INTERNAL. A method I use to relate all causality of the unknown and all things spiritual to relate ourselves with our existence.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Nov 14 2010, 03:55 AM
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As you said, these thing or terms was created long ago at a time where magic is a skill of power, since the movie make money with it and gave them visual appearance, it make some skeptic believe in ghost.

Our education system never address such a thing and so ghost is subject to the interpretation of anyone and some became expert giving talks and wrote books to make money. These people are invited as guest on radio which I am not easy about and we are here doing the same.

People want to believe in things that cannot be ration and say its exist whether they can see it or not, since it is up to the individual, so I create my story and "metaphysicians do not understand anything that is ethereal" is you living in a world with more believers and that is real.
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post Nov 14 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Nov 14 2010, 02:37 PM)
As you said, these thing or terms was created long ago at a time where magic is a skill of power, since the movie make money with it and gave them visual appearance, it make some skeptic believe in ghost.

Our education system never address such a thing and so ghost is subject to the interpretation of anyone and some became expert giving talks and wrote books to make money. These people are invited as guest on radio which I am not easy about and we are here doing the same.

People want to believe in things that cannot be ration and say its exist whether they can see it or not, since it is up to the individual, so I create my story and "metaphysicians do not understand anything that is ethereal" is you living in a world with more believers and that is real.
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The only difference of my belief in ghosts, that to me, ghosts are not just mere haunting, malicious, ethereal no-gooders.

I believe they live in us and are manifestations of even the tiniest of human vices.

I am not siding with those belives in the superstiotion of ghosts.

I am looking at the existence of ghosts of something more existential.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Nov 14 2010, 02:58 PM
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post Nov 14 2010, 07:17 PM

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im not superstitious about supernatural stuffs,

people sometime tend to think something is exist or haunting certain places due to the geographical factor, places that well abandoned always thought to be haunted for no reason, i found this behavior kind of ridiculous ..
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post Nov 15 2010, 07:33 PM

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yap, ghost do really exists,
only in movies and myths
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post Nov 16 2010, 07:11 PM

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as for this matter, I don't believe in 'ghosts' but do accept the other view of them. For example people might view these entities as 'ghosts' but from different perspective I consider they're most likely 'jinn' or creatures from another dimension.

it's as common just as we saw animals, microorganisms other than humans.
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:58 PM

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People claimed that it is their dead family or human like feature that act like ordinary people but go through walls, somehow sit on chair or squad at a corner, if its another dimension, why only special people can see and no scientist work hard to unveil this special dimension or at least examine the pair of eyes that can see them?

All it takes is a good and convincing story to begin.
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post Dec 16 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Royde @ Oct 16 2010, 10:56 PM)
Keyword : Interpenetrating, with different space-time notion.

An object of which the speed of the vortex movement is increased above the speed of light will disappear from this physical universe and enter a super-physical universe. This super-physical universe has its own space-time realm, distinct from the physical space-time. The physical and super-physical universes are interpenetrating each other. They are not separated by space and time but by a dimension that is the speed of the vortex movement

http://www.sciforums.com/criterion-for-an-...eld-t-1178.html
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how can 1 material exceed it's own existent speed?... can sound exceed it own sound barrier? can infra-red exceed it's speed and b'come ultra violet?... exceeding light speed barrier? no1 ever succeeded to make anything go faster than light... link to the explanation is bogus, there's no such experiment,.. all the link to the experiment is non-existent... did u believe everything hearsay?

QUOTE(3dassets @ Oct 19 2010, 12:07 AM)
So what do you call a non Theist and Atheist? Too much of science don't hurt but believing lead to all kinds of fear and bad assumptions, science dismiss anything that can't be quantify and nothing to begin with. By the time science can identify such things with technology, human life would change with the inclusive of paranormal and the value of life will not be the same as we see it with today's perception.

I hate DJs claim to be able to see ghost, they could have kept it to themselves but to openly claim that it exist is wrong, also National radio invited guests who also claim that spirit exist just not everyone can see / feel them, all of them have financial interests by such claims or make themselves special for the fame, pathetic. One of them even screamed on air because another DJ says something is next to her. isn't it clear that people abuse it to gain popularity and what good is there believing in ghost?
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sensation to fright do sell, like bungee jumping, roller coaster and haunted house... it is a great marketing tools.. just like sex, some use sex to sell..

This post has been edited by randyhow: Dec 17 2010, 03:55 PM

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