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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V22, Now what!?Its Thuban and 800 Era!..oh no

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post Jun 10 2010, 08:01 PM

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what kind of question is that..
depends on bios option..

what u meant by overvolt ram affected the cpu?
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post Jun 10 2010, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jun 10 2010, 07:44 PM)
waahh.....
this thread still warm like always...
issued 1 question than many answer will drop in! thumbup.gif
nwy, i have 1 question, is amd have limit volt for ram?
if overvolt the ram, will effect cpu also ka? hmm.gif
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there should but not as sensitive as intel i supposed. ram handled by imc which resided in cpu, so vdimm mite flow in & out of d chip, worry not, so far i haven't heard of any case that chip/imc bein killed by high vidimm. high dimm on 24/7 mite degrade d efficiency of imc thou... smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2010, 08:17 PM

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i thought amd having separated power plan..
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post Jun 10 2010, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 10 2010, 08:01 PM)
there should but not as sensitive as intel i supposed. ram handled by imc which resided in cpu, so vdimm mite flow in & out of d chip, worry not, so far i haven't heard of any case that chip/imc bein killed by high vidimm. high dimm on 24/7 mite degrade d efficiency of imc thou...  smile.gif
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almk, mine stock at 1.9v, if dropp vdimm, sure cant get 1600Mhz cl7! cry.gif
need to consider new ram sweat.gif
who wan mine?lego murh2 je!come2 brows.gif
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post Jun 10 2010, 08:51 PM

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Pump vDimm to 2.4v. Sure fly. laugh.giflaugh.gificon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 10 2010, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jun 10 2010, 08:51 PM)
Pump vDimm to 2.4v. Sure fly. laugh.giflaugh.gificon_rolleyes.gif

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mobo n cpu also sure gone..
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post Jun 10 2010, 09:31 PM

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virtualmark

not sure this accurate

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Check out the layout of the Biostar 890GXE without the heatsink, looking at the MOSFET....
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digital PWM my arse, their using traditional MOSFET(potong satu kaki tiggal satu type) thou rather thn using 3 MOSFET in one phase, they use 3 + the IC driver, which i think shud be better thn only 3 MOSFET in one phase. the only "digital" i can see thou is the use of mini sized ceramic caps around the phase( very tiny ), i understand this caps is also used on the 890FX version, thou tat one has 5+1 phase, wonder why they still mixed it up wif normal solid cap design at the phase, weird, cut cost maybe....


Added on June 11, 2010, 3:56 ambtw, check out tis link peeps...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-89...d7,2640-14.html

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QUOTE(selferino @ Jun 11 2010, 01:01 AM)
Check out the layout of the Biostar 890GXE without the heatsink, looking at the MOSFET....
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digital PWM my arse, their using traditional MOSFET(potong satu kaki tiggal satu type) thou rather thn using 3 MOSFET in one phase, they use 3 + the IC driver, which i think shud be better thn only 3 MOSFET in one phase. the only "digital" i can see thou is the use of mini sized ceramic caps around the phase( very tiny ), i understand this caps is also used on the 890FX version, thou tat one has 5+1 phase, wonder why they still mixed it up wif normal solid cap design at the phase, weird, cut cost maybe....


Added on June 11, 2010, 3:56 ambtw, check out tis link peeps...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-89...d7,2640-14.html
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to be fair to biostar, they never claimed that DPU (digital power unit) = digital pwm. nod.gif

u gotta consider d cost factor here, what do u expect from a manufacturer of value line? to sell their boards @ value price but to use top notch materials (like evga top of d line x58 board which uses better caps, chokes & etc in their pwm > these stuffs are even better than what have been used on msi premium boards which claimed as military class)? be practical, we always get what we pay for. some more, it's not that biostar doin badly in oc, in fact, some of their 7xx boards really impressed me, particularly d 790gx a3+ which to me is one of d best 790gx board around (oc wise), comparable to boards from premium brands like asus, giga & msi. smile.gif

i haven't try (dun think i will have such luxury nowadays) their 8xx boards but i'm pretty sure they'll shine for budget range. d only let down for their 890fx board is as what mentioned, lesser phase of pwm if compared to others. sad.gif

on a side note, by right 1 phase of pwm should include a group of mosfets, cap(s) & 1 driver (ic i supposed). if u observe clearly, some manufacturer(s) claimed that their boards are of x+x phase of pwm, but when u check thier pwm area it doesn't tally w/ what they claimed. i have no qualms on this (could be d case diff manufacturer diff standard on pwm thingy) as long as these boards perform. wink.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 11 2010, 11:20 AM)
to be fair to biostar, they never claimed that DPU (digital power unit) = digital pwm.  :/nod:

u gotta consider d cost factor here, what do u expect from a manufacturer of value line? to sell their boards @ value price but to use top notch materials (like evga top of d line x58 board which uses better caps, chokes & etc in their pwm > these stuffs are even better than what have been used on msi premium boards which claimed as military class)? be practical, we always get what we paid for. some more, it's not that biostar doin badly in oc, in fact, some of their 7xx boards really impressed me, particularly d 790gx a3+ which to me is one of d best 790gx board around (oc wise), comparable to boards from premium brands like asus, giga & msi.  :/)

i haven't try (dun think i will have such luxury nowadays) their 8xx boards but i'm pretty sure they'll shine for budget range. d only let down for their 890fx board is as what mentioned, lesser phase of pwm if compared to others.  :/(

on a side note, by right 1 phase of pwm should include a group of mosfets, cap & 1 driver (ic i supposed). if u observed clearly, some manufacturer(s) claimed that their boards are of x+x phase of pwm, but when u check thier pwm area it doesn't tally w/ what they claimed. i have no qualms on this (could be d case diff manufacturer diff standard on pwm thingy) as long as these boards perform.  ;/)
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Yup sokong this, i had my fair share of using biobintang, msi & giga mainstream boards, so far i have no qualms with biobintang boards, in some case my old TA790GX performs much better than my old MSI DKA790GX Platinum in oc'ing.. laugh.gif
My TA790GX only kaput pun becoz of lightning & someone being tooooooo lazy to use the / command in flashing bios whistling.gif laugh.gif

U get what u pay for is the key here.. nod.gif


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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 11 2010, 11:39 AM)
Yup sokong this, i had my fair share of using biobintang, msi & giga mainstream boards, so far i have no qualms with biobintang boards, in some case my old TA790GX performs much better than my old MSI DKA790GX Platinum in oc'ing.. laugh.gif
My TA790GX only kaput pun becoz of lightning & someone being tooooooo lazy to use the / command in flashing bios  whistling.gif  laugh.gif

U get what u pay for is the key here..  nod.gif
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lol... still find it hilarious bout d "/" thingy... laugh.gif tongue.gif

sometimes ppl tend to forget d advantage of having competitive products, thanks to this we can have reasonable price for stuff from premium brands. else, we gotta buy whatever premium brands decided to charge us due to no/lack of competitions. payin peanuts but gettin luxury stuff in return... if only there's such thing on earth... drool.gif

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post Jun 11 2010, 11:50 AM

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ala this called marketing gimmick la.. same like last time always say 100% full japanese caps etc.. but end up not entire of the board..

but nowadays still ok.. atleast not at PWM area only..
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Yo guys, superfly wanna do Gigabyte OC Gathering...

xixo and antonio would be there...urmmm...

BTW here what i found during surfing~

AMD and Voltage...the truths, and myths revealed.


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QUOTE(verdict @ Jun 11 2010, 01:45 PM)
Yo guys, superfly wanna do Gigabyte OC Gathering...

xixo and antonio would be there...urmmm...

BTW here what i found during surfing~

AMD and Voltage...the truths, and myths revealed.
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thanks for d info sis... how r u now? fully recovered already? smile.gif

btw, can provide d link for those info ah? we dont want ppl to say we practice plagiarism here... wink.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 11 2010, 03:03 PM)
thanks for d info sis... how r u now? fully recovered already?  smile.gif

btw, can provide d link for those info ah? we dont want ppl to say we practice plagiarism here...  wink.gif
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Yeahh im going great so far! Doing fisio... nod.gif

No prob bro, BTW here the link : xtremesystems : AMD and Voltage...the truths, and myths revealed wub.gif

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QUOTE(verdict @ Jun 11 2010, 02:37 PM)
Yeahh im going great so far! Doing fisio...

BTW here the link : xtremesystems : AMD and Voltage...the truths, and myths revealed
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mak aii... sound serious coz need to do physio... must watch what u eat bro... avoid cold drink & takin bath late @ nite... nod.gif

waitin for ya come back thou i'm aleady outta bizness... icon_idea.gif sad.gif

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must drink kacip fatimah..

err.. that list can use ar coz not all proc are same..
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 11 2010, 03:40 PM)
mak aii... sound serious coz need to do physio... must watch what u eat bro... avoid cold drink & takin bath late @ nite...  nod.gif

waitin for ya come back thou i'm aleady outta bizness...  icon_idea.gif  sad.gif
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Yup, already avoid those cold drink...now walking like ketam...haishh! doh.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 11 2010, 02:43 PM)
must drink kacip fatimah..

err.. that list can use ar coz not all proc are same..
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lol @ d bold part... laugh.gif

d poster missed to take temperature into consideration as well... as we all knew, temp @ europe/states is a lot diff than what we have in countries near equator. i'm pretty sure on air coolin they can achieve higher clocks usin same amount of volt if compared to us due to advantage in lower ambient temp. but when it comes to sub-zero, i reckon it doesn't matter nemore. tongue.gif

QUOTE(verdict @ Jun 11 2010, 02:44 PM)
Yup, already avoid those cold drink...now walking like ketam...haishh! doh.gif
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so now usin tongkat ah? must take gud k so that u'll recover fast... nod.gif

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