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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V22, Now what!?Its Thuban and 800 Era!..oh no

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post Mar 8 2010, 11:09 AM

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No wonder old thread like sleepy hollow, rupanya sudah pindah rumah baru laugh.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 8 2010, 11:37 AM)
spammer detected...  tongue.gif

my new thread wish is to not become top spammer ever again...  icon_question.gif

asus did it again...  rolleyes.gif
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pros:
- 10 phase pwm
- hw core unlockin switch

cons:
- $$$
- bad layout for cf (cards w/ big heatsink) + pci-e sound card
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Aisyeh baru nak drool.gif drool.gif then i realize have to multiply by 2 doh.gif doh.gif
Gila mahal for a 890GX mobo ler doh.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 8 2010, 12:03 PM)
RM75x for a 890gx board still consider not bad? no wonder ur rich...  sweat.gif
SGD.  nod.gif
what would u expect from asus bro? i better off place my bets (on behalf of u guys) on biostar for value, dfi, msi, & giga for mid to high end.  rolleyes.gif
it's d same if u dun have any $$$ sis...  cry.gif
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I'm not entirely sold by the 890GX la bro, the NB chipset is a bit too much like the 785G/790GX, the only difference would be the better SB.. sweat.gif
Paying a premium for just a better SB doesn't seem wise yet.. Like this might as well grab that Gigabyte 785G-USB3 from ur pricelist.. Baru RM3xx tongue.gif
Got unlocking some more laugh.gif

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post Mar 8 2010, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Mar 8 2010, 12:30 PM)
me really would wait for some magic....890GX on paper currently doesn't really make your spine tingling...if you already have 790GX or790FX, 890GX in terms of function, wouldn't justify the upgrade...

The IGP also its just a small bump from the 785 models.... why dun put in HD5200 brows.gif
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That's why lah, i thought atleast got DX11 class IGP or something, really a bit of a let down there.. Maybe IGP Eyefinity ker sad.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Mar 8 2010, 01:39 PM)
t+1
dont have baget here...
i rekemen giga 770 ud3h rm320..or u want the usb3 is 770t ud3
or biostar ta790gx a3 -rm370++

@ts
that msi kindda cheap leh..replace gd65 that is around 500? kekeke..450 > 500,so the price will increase la..kekekeke
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My votes goes to the same mobo thumbup.gif smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2010, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(tplus1 @ Mar 9 2010, 01:42 PM)
ECS A785GM-AD3 (Black Series)

lol... ECS also comes with BE.. xD

but 95W really x worth.. cant put Quad BE..
lately kept searching for MOBO...
and finally search something nice... AM2+/AM3, DDR2 and DDR3 support (combo series), Crossfire, integrated HD3300~
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If ur looking for DDR2/DDR3 combo mobo only J&W got them, but support is still sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2010, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Mar 9 2010, 02:07 PM)
@tplus1
jetway?
i would not take it if i were u..
u can only slot in 2rams at one time..either ddr2 or ddr3..
if u want to stay ddr2, buy ddr2 mobo..if want ddr3.buy ddr2 mobo..
and they lay out also ugly..kekeke
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Want ddr3 buy ddr2 mobo bro? laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(tplus1 @ Mar 9 2010, 02:11 PM)
lolz... i knw... just jetway got... but i am low on budget... and DDR3 seems super expensive... lolz... DDR2 in the other way is way more cheap and easy to get 2nd hand in low low price... wakaka...

and since i am building my own, when i got more $$, imma get DDR3... so, why not DDR2/DDR3? lol...

btw... let me knw whts the bad of jetway? haha... support still??? very weak? but the spec seems ok to me? lolz....

or isit nt OC friendly?
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If i'm not mistaken only our bro verdict had tried J&W mobo b4, but that was the DDR2 mobo not the combo..
U will face a few restriction due to the limitation of the bios IIANM.. Plus they do not do frequent update of the bios like the other manufacturers..
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post Mar 9 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(tplus1 @ Mar 9 2010, 02:22 PM)
hmmmmm......... mobo really will affect the quality? i thought if chipset 790, then all same?

guess i will just wait for more budget then... and get abit or biostar
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Sorry to say abit stop manufacturing mobo a long time ago.. I'm one of their mobo lovers b4 cry.gif cry.gif


Added on March 9, 2010, 2:25 pm
QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Mar 9 2010, 02:17 PM)
typo brader  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif

ok..here my view..
u want to use back ddr2..so go ahead buying ddr2 mobo..if u bought jetway.u still use the ddr2 ram..so? u get urself a crap (perhaps) mobo with ddr2..
if later u want to upgrade, u just upgrade to ddr3 ram.. so u end up using ddr3 ram with crap mobo and the performance more or less the same with ddr2

sifu, do correct me with the crap term..if u think that mobo not so crap la


Added on March 9, 2010, 2:20 pmcloudwan.. JW and jetway the same ka? i thought they are different
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Yup they are different but in essence the same laugh.gif different companies but both have staffs which backgrounds from the old Jetway company IIANM.. laugh.gif

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post Mar 9 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 9 2010, 04:02 PM)
it's not a secret that i'm a asus basher. i'm not a fanboy of any brand (well, except dfi but from what i heard we can barely see any amd board from dfi nowadays). ofcoz, i will be happy to be proved wrong, w/ that kinda price tag, it's quite temptin to be honest. but d look... even biopening is better... doh.gif

high end wise need not to elaborate more... cun but price is another turn off...  yawn.gif

mebe i should post a want to loan thread in vrz...  hmm.gif  tongue.gif
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Go go make a loan thread, who knows after that u becum a ahsos lover wub.gif wub.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2010, 04:46 PM

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Hmmmm foxconn mobo are looking mighty fine nowadays hmm.gif

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Foxconn Intros AMD 890GX-based Digital Life Series Motherboards
OEM major Foxconn made additions to its own channel brand of motherboards with two Digital Lifes series models based on the AMD 890GX chipset, supporting socket AM3 processors. The nearly identical Foxconn Digital Life A9DA-S and A9DA (pictured in the same order below), are ATX boards building on the features the chipset provides. The CPU is powered by an 8-phase VRM. The AMD 890GX embeds an ATI Radeon HD 4290 class IGP with 128 MB (+UMA) SidePort memory and connectivity which includes DVI, D-Sub, and HDMI.

Expansion slots include two each of PCI-Express 2.0 x16 (electrical x8 when both are populated), PCI-E x1, and PCI. The SB850 southbridge gives out six SATA 6 Gb/s ports. Other standard features include 8-channel HD audio, gigabit Ethernet, and a number of USB 2.0 ports. The A9DA-S is the more premium variant, it has a heatsink over the CPU VRM, and a VIA 2-port FireWire controller. The two should be available in stores soon.



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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 9 2010, 04:42 PM)
touch wood!!! not in a million year bro...  mad.gif

dfi all d way... but sadly we see nothing from 'em for 8xx series till now...  sad.gif

biostar 890fxe was a let down (5+1 pwm not really enuf for 6 cores imo), gigabyte ud3 w/ 4+1 pwm... if lucid hydra chip can do near to real x-fire performance, i'm rootin for msi 870a-gd60 on behalf of u guys (at least u) bro...  tongue.gif

10+1 pwm & 2 * full 16x pci-e lanes for gfx... fwahhh...  drool.gif  wub.gif    lust.gif

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I'm crossing my fingers bro, plus with MSI reknowed cheap2 price lagi thumbup.gif

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post Mar 10 2010, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(dafreak @ Mar 10 2010, 09:51 AM)
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this time it is really weird, i throw all the voltages to stock, vcore 1.325v (+0v)

only rams @ 1.65v

running almost 4hrs... doh.gif

tmpin2 = core temp minus ~2 °C
tmpin1 = nb i think
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Cpu load at 50c is nice already, drool.gif even at stock i can't get that, always above 50c sweat.gif
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post Mar 12 2010, 12:10 PM

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Aiksss, donno if u guys read about these b4:

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AMD Phenom II X6 'Thuban' and Phenom II X4 'Zosma' Tabled on Roadmaps
A list of new Phenom II series processors were tabled in a company road map. The road map confirms AMD's naming scheme for the Phenom II X6 brand, and also sheds light on a new line of quad-core processors. In the second quarter of this year, AMD will introduce Phenom II X6 six-core models 1075T, 1055T, and 1035T. While the 1075T has a TDP of 125W, the 1055T comes in 125W and 95W variants (likely one following the other), and 1035T is the slowest model with 95W TDP. All Phenom II X6 models are based on the Thuban core (a desktop, socket AM3 implementation of the Istanbul die). Each of the six cores has 128 KB of L1, 512 KB L2 caches, and a 6 MB L3 cache is shared between all cores. The HyperTransport 3.0 interconnect operates at 4.8 GT/s.

The new line of quad-core processors here, is the Phenom II X4 900T series. The first member in this series is the Phenom II X4 960T. These processors are created using Thuban dies by disabling two cores. It helps AMD salvage its foundry produce with minor defects, and also target lower price points. The resulting die is codenamed "Zosma". Zosma in X4 960T has a TDP of 95W. Probably it has a lower clock speed than the "Deneb" Phenom II X4 965, but is placed in the same league, in terms of performance. One of its biggest "unintentional" unique selling points is that since it's based on a die that has six physical cores, some customers could get lucky by unlocking them to a six-core processor, at a much lower price-point. Even as several motherboard manufacturers have innovated ways to unlock disabled cores, and are advertising their unlocking features, it is not guaranteed that a Zosma would unlock into Thuban, just as Callisto/Heka to Deneb unlocking doesn't always work out. Going by AMD's road map, these processors will be released some time in May.

Sauce


Got 955 with 95W flavour meh? hmm.gif

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post Mar 12 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 12 2010, 12:30 PM)
yalor, one nite stand x aci maa...  shakehead.gif
lai lai... throw me ya 125watter bro, i dun mind one...  tongue.gif

we'll see x 4>6 gudness soon...  drool.gif

hopefully 7xx series board will do as gud...  hmm.gif
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Miahahaha, not gonna happen la bro, don't have the moolah anymore.. cry.gif
Hmmmm kinda got me thinking, if using the 7series mobo can we utilize the turbo-boost function? Got support ka? hmm.gif
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post Mar 12 2010, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 12 2010, 01:18 PM)
why? where's d pitih u got from d x3 + mobo sales...  :/(
Sauce

hmm... hopefully it's not chipset related since it's to operate at hardware level... c-state thingy usually related to chip itself only rite?  hmm.gif
zosma = thuban w/ 2 cores disabled. if 7xx series can support thuban, it's just d matter of time manufacturers/bios modders to come out w/ core unlockin bios. on 7xx series, core unlockin is done via inclusion of microcode in bios... on 890gx, core unlockin is done via hw eg a switch like what asus is doin now. not so sure how asrock's ucc functions but their 890gx extreme looks yummy...  :/drool:
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The pitih meh? All gone already to help me pay my bills, plus a family member needed financial help sooo moneyflies.gif
Haihhhh utang keliling pinggang bro, the larger the pinggang the larger the hutang sweat.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Mar 12 2010, 01:29 PM)
wait..thuban 45nm right? how AMD make the tdp lower?
even on c3 its a mystery to me...

cloudwan..
is this ur dupe?
http://forum.lowyat.net/user/cloudwan0
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I been thinkin bout it tooo, what optimization does they came out with to lower the TDP hmm.gif
Maybe a newer revision? C4? laugh.gif

OT: Nope, i don't have any dupe account la.. Why bro? Got someone misusing my reputation ka? sweat.gif Nih yg scary nih..
Kinda strange also seeing someone wanting to use a lame username like mine sweat.gif
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post Mar 20 2010, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 19 2010, 01:27 PM)
u can try BAR Edit, link HERE. sadly it only works in windows environment. if u managed to boot w/ high nb freq, then d tool mite be useful.  wink.gif
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Bro ah_khoo do u see any Gigabyte GA-890XA-UD3 selling in SG?
Looks promising to me, 790X+SB850, hope it's wayyy cheaper than the currently overpriced 890GX mobo laugh.gif

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Specification:
AMD 790X + SB850 Chipset

- Supports new generation of AMD Phenom™II X6 processors
- Ultra Durable 3 Technology with copper cooled quality for lower working temperature
- Revolution energy saving design with Easy Energy Saver technology
- Supports newest NEC SuperSpeed USB 3.0 with superfast transfer rates of up to 5 Gbps
- 3X USB power delivery for greater compatibility and extra power for USB devices
- AMD SB850 provides 6 native SATA3 storage interfaces with superfast 6Gbps link speed and RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support
- Supports AMD AM3 Phenom II/ Athlon II processors
- Advanced 8+2 phase CPU VRM power design for AMD high-TDP 140W CPU support
- Dual Channel DDR3 1866+ for remarkable system performance
- 2 PCI-E 2.0 x16 interface with ATI CrossFireX support for ultimate graphics performance
- Supports Dolby Home Theater audio to enjoy a rich surround sound experience
- The Precision OV provides more precision voltage control for system
- Compatible with Window 7 to deliver the best operation experience
- Meet European Union ErP(Energy-related-Products) requirement

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Mar 21 2010, 06:07 AM)
hello para ocer AMD sekalian

i got a question here regarding a couple of motherboard.

Gigabyte 770T-UD3P and the newer 770T-USB3

is there any significant changes between the 2 other than the newer USB 3 standard and the 8pin power connector placement??

thanks in advance.
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Yup practically not much difference between them both only USB3.0, SATA3, connectors color & most importantly with the USB3 u loses the 8+2 phase which is a no-no to me sweat.gif
Instead of USB3 why don't u go for the 770TA-UD3, it has all the good points from those two mobo's but with a better connector layout thumbup.gif

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post Mar 21 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Mar 21 2010, 08:32 AM)
cant find the 770TA-UD3 listed on any of pricelist on the frontpage.

any estimate for the price??
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Should be right below RM400, last time i check PC-Zone got it listed, but with the new pricelist its gone already doh.gif
Its a crying shame if they don't bring in that mobo sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 21 2010, 11:27 AM)
belum lagi bro, but w/o core unlockin support (i assume since it's usin sb850) so it's not really a gud choice for budget users who wanna do core unlockin on this board. layout wise + pwm is great thou... what a pity...  sad.gif
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Aiseymen, forgot bout that.. Hopefully they put an unlocking switch like Ahsos are doing doh.gif



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post Mar 21 2010, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Mar 21 2010, 06:19 PM)
oc for my phenom x2 555.
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Nice oc there bro drool.gif
What mobo ur using bro?

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