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paskal
post Feb 29 2012, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Will.i.am.Smith @ Feb 29 2012, 02:30 PM)
Products from WKH might be but Hwee Seng wise, there's room for the negotiation.

You meant the 5509 not 3309?  brows.gif 5509 can be have locally close to the SG pricing which the amount is small enough to justify the trouble of going to SG to drag the unit back and warranty issue as well  laugh.gif
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sorry my mistake. it is from hwee seng.
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Hwee Seng the new distributor but selling at over RM6k.


ARC is indeed better, but at over RM2k more i couldn't justify the price. at under Rm4k the lx55 is a great choice to consider.

QUOTE(DannyOP @ Feb 29 2012, 01:37 PM)
I'll try out your suggestions. Hopefully will get the same results.

Btw except for Yamaha and Pioneer most of the receivers here are overpriced. Denon 4311 in Sg RM5.6k, here around RM10k, Onkyo 3309 around RM5.8k in Sg, here RM11k.
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bro you got some good price for the 5509 from SG? brows.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 04:32 AM

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Thanks Paskal for your suggestions, and thanks also to bro anfieldude to help me with the standing wave issue. The amp sounds much better now.. Still trying to sort out the phase and another issue you mentioned.

5509 comes to rm6k+ from sg.


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post Mar 2 2012, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Mar 2 2012, 04:32 AM)
Thanks Paskal for your suggestions, and thanks also to bro anfieldude to help me with the standing wave issue. The amp sounds much better now.. Still trying to sort out the phase and another issue you mentioned.

5509 comes to rm6k+ from sg.
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phase control plus can be turned off by lowering it to 0ms. press the 'audio parameter' button on your remote then scroll down using the arrow button until 'phase c+' and lower it down to 0ms. mcacc sets it at 6ms at my setup. if i read correctly it's supposed to provide independent phase control over each driver inside the speaker.
you might also wanna cycle through the phase control option during playback by pressing 'phase ctrl' button on the remote. a simple phase control might sound better than the default advanced phase control.

5509 at RM6k is an option to consider. sell off the mrx300 and topup a bit to go discreet pre-power. brows.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 2 2012, 07:47 AM)
phase control plus can be turned off by lowering it to 0ms. press the 'audio parameter' button on your remote then scroll down using the arrow button until 'phase c+' and lower it down to 0ms. mcacc sets it at 6ms at my setup. if i read correctly it's supposed to provide independent phase control over each driver inside the speaker.
you might also wanna cycle through the phase control option during playback by pressing 'phase ctrl' button on the remote. a simple phase control might sound better than the default advanced phase control.

5509 at RM6k is an option to consider. sell off the mrx300 and topup a bit to go discreet pre-power. brows.gif
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paskal,

Let me know if u r looking to go for the 5509. I might try it as well....Since we r both up north, if it helps to get 2 and brings the price down, I might be game...

Also MCACC has a lot of knobs and while its good in that sense, my experience to what it does in the lfe channel has been that it does more harm than good.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 2 2012, 09:18 AM)
paskal,

Let me know if u r looking to go for the 5509. I might try it as well....Since we r both up north, if it helps to get 2 and brings the price down, I might be game...

Also MCACC has a lot of knobs and while its good in that sense, my experience to what it does in the lfe channel has been that it does more harm than good.
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i was hoping you first to buy it so i can bring my entire gear to your pad and test it out hehe. biggrin.gif
kindda hard for me to buy without some audition again seeing how i had to sold off my entire monitor audio bronze setup just 3 month into ownership. the setup just sound wrong with the rest of my equipment. doh.gif no matter how much tuning i did i still can't get it to synergize properly.
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post Mar 2 2012, 10:03 PM

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Just got my pioneer VSX-821K & H3TSB setup.. not bad for a startup like myself, am enjoying it much!
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 2 2012, 09:18 AM)
paskal,

Let me know if u r looking to go for the 5509. I might try it as well....Since we r both up north, if it helps to get 2 and brings the price down, I might be game...

Also MCACC has a lot of knobs and while its good in that sense, my experience to what it does in the lfe channel has been that it does more harm than good.
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post Mar 3 2012, 11:26 PM

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Played with LX55 today. Still not familiar with its GUI. Possibly due to the room acoustic or the power supply, the Cap is 'overpowered' by FV15HP. Nonetheless, with the help of Antimode 8033C and a bit of adjustments, the Cap sounds much better. Still with room for improvement.
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post Mar 4 2012, 12:36 AM

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Tried antimode with lx55 today. Disabling the eq and standing wave, letting the antimode to the sub calibration. Overall the lx55 sounded warmer and more neutral.
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Danny, did you try out your new toy yesterday? How is it?
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Not yet ler.. Need to find electrician first.
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my HDMI inputs not recognizing any devices..
it was okay for few days, but yesterday suddenly it's not working!

exhausted almost all possible investigations but no outcomes..shakehead.gif
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post Mar 5 2012, 04:24 PM

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Hi all, WTA - is the VSX-S300-K available in Malaysia? If so, where can I get it what's the estimated price? I am in Klang Valley. Thanks
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Who tested HTP-PR821? what is the comment?
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post May 29 2012, 12:10 AM

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Guys,

Appreciate if you can advice the difference between listening in:
1. AUTO/ALC/DIRECT MODE
2. STANDARD MODE

After reading through the manual, I still could not be very sure of the definitions. My understanding for STANDARD MODE is that the avr will try to force source (of any number of channel, including those without surround originally) to surround mode. But I am not sure. Is this right?

My conclusion in listening to both modes is that the STANDARD MODE sounded very thin while pure direct mode sounded much more musical and warm.


I would like to know which mode you all use most often - STANDARD or AUTO/ALC/DIRECT MODE?

Your advice is much appreciated!!


PS: coming from an lx-53. Previously own vsx520 does not seems to have such significant differences between these 2 modes.

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post May 29 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(chiakwang @ May 29 2012, 12:10 AM)
Guys,

Appreciate if you can advice the difference between listening in:
1. AUTO/ALC/DIRECT MODE
2. STANDARD MODE

After reading through the manual, I still could not be very sure of the definitions. My understanding for STANDARD MODE is that the avr will try to force source (of any number of channel, including those without surround originally) to surround mode. But I am not sure. Is this right?

My conclusion in listening to both modes is that the STANDARD MODE sounded very thin while pure direct mode sounded much more musical and warm.
I would like to know which mode you all use most often - STANDARD or AUTO/ALC/DIRECT MODE?

Your advice is much appreciated!!
PS: coming from an lx-53. Previously own vsx520 does not seems to have such significant differences between these 2 modes.
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This depend on your source. If you want your avr to process the video and sound then use direct mode.
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post May 29 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 29 2012, 12:03 PM)
This depend on your source. If you want your avr to process the video and sound then use direct mode.
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Thanks for the comments and I appreciate if you elaborate more on the differences between the two modes.

TQ
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post May 29 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(chiakwang @ May 29 2012, 12:10 AM)
Guys,

Appreciate if you can advice the difference between listening in:
1. AUTO/ALC/DIRECT MODE
2. STANDARD MODE

After reading through the manual, I still could not be very sure of the definitions. My understanding for STANDARD MODE is that the avr will try to force source (of any number of channel, including those without surround originally) to surround mode. But I am not sure. Is this right?

My conclusion in listening to both modes is that the STANDARD MODE sounded very thin while pure direct mode sounded much more musical and warm.
I would like to know which mode you all use most often - STANDARD or AUTO/ALC/DIRECT MODE?

Your advice is much appreciated!!
PS: coming from an lx-53. Previously own vsx520 does not seems to have such significant differences between these 2 modes.
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I'm using Pioneer AVR, the best mode is DIRECT MODE, which what recorded in the BluDisc without any changes... whistling.gif

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post Oct 16 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(goose @ Mar 5 2012, 04:24 PM)
Hi all, WTA - is the VSX-S300-K available in Malaysia? If so, where can I get it what's the estimated price? I am in Klang Valley. Thanks
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Also looking for this slim AV receiver VSX-S300
http://www.pioneer.my/ProductDetail/defaul...2&CatId=64,9,17

How much this receiver alone cost? Any comment?

Found the HTP-S300 package (RRP: RM2299, current price?)
http://www.pioneer.my/ProductDetail/defaul...atId=64,205,210
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:55 PM

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It is a package dont think you just buy the receiver. You cant do anything with just the receiver

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