You should try dedicated AV processor, it'll improve more over the receiver used as AV processor purpose. I tried it before and i am a firm believer that dedicated processor and power amp is the way to go for the ultimate

Not necessarily, provided the dedicated processor matches the system well. That being said I'm considering the xpa processor or the onkyo 5509.

My only concern about onkyo is that it doesn't sound good with music. Very likely the processor will have the same character as the avr. Wondering why Denon doesn't come out with a processor to compete. Right now there's only one processor it's xt32, not really much of a choice.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Feb 27 2012, 09:45 PM

There is one from Denon but it is freaking expensive.

AVP-A1HDCi

http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Prod...IA%28DenonNA%29

There's one Denon AV Rrocessor for sure which is on par with many US/UK AV Processor pricing

Frankly, matching is a matter of different between each brand's offering and its tuning for their AV Processor. For eg, Onkie 5509 might have a colder sound as compared to NAD M15HD. It's not about matching but more about if it sounds "right" to your ears. Some preferred warmer sound and some like the forward sound.

the newer onkyo that i've heard (*09 series) did a pretty good job with music. audited the 509 and 609 and onkyo did improved the receiver musicality compared to the past series. not as musical as the lx55, but they did a pretty good job nonetheless.
and while still retaining the onkyo slam and brutal presentation when doing movies.

i would like to think that the 5509 preserved the same trait as their other lower end receivers. that being said i wouldn't really place my bet with emotiva seeing how their previous processor turned out to be.

That's what i thought as well. Emotiva processor seems like a nightmare at least for now..let's give them another chance and see the new XMC-1 can do better not

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Added on February 27, 2012, 11:53 pmThat's what i thought as well. Emotiva processor seems like a nightmare at least for now..let's give them another chance and see the new XMC-1 can do better not

This post has been edited by Will.i.am.Smith: Feb 27 2012, 11:53 PM

paskal, if Danny did pull the trigger, then we can have a gathering at his place to find out (not beer but root beers )

that would be really nice! then we can have a better understanding on the emotiva. have someone bring over a 5509 and it would be even better.

Actually im leaning towards 5509.. will wait for more reviews on emotiva first.

Aiseh... then maybe we will try to invite Sonerin to bring his Emo.

Why wait ler
Our dear fren is getting a unit of it.

i would really like to try one out, but currently nobody is using an AV processor near my place. must have someone bring it over to test it on my setup first before committing. not gonna do another blind purchase without home audition (ever) again.

found the culprit. seems that standing wave correction brought more problem than solution. at least to my setup.

turning standing wave correction, enabling eq and disabling phase control plus i got a more natural sounding and better sound overall. the best (i think) that i could extract from the receiver (currently).

the lx55 overall sound is more refined than the mrx300. kindda like a more polite presentation than the mrx300. whilst the mrx300 is a more brutal sounding receiver with a harder hitting presentation. not up to the level of onkyo signature but definitely more aggressive than the lx55.

as good as the lx55 is, it loses out compared to ARC eq. ARC did some impressive things to my subwoofer. mcacc still made the subwoofer too boomy for my liking. bass impact is also better on the mrx.

but the thing is, a fella in hifi4sale PMed me asking about the mrx300. he said woo kee hong is asking for RM6k+ for the mrx300 after taking over distributorship from asia sound. and the lx55 is selling for under RM4k. for RM6k i'd rather go with the lx55 and keep the extra RM2k for some other component. the improvement from ARC is there, but i don't think it's worth the extra RM2k.

Who's ordering Emotiva XMC-1?

On second thought, silly me. The Denon and Marantz avr are expensive too.

IMHO, the MCACC still has a lot of rooms for improvement just like YPAO. The ARC and Audyssey is still quite ahead of it.

Lol..you sponsor all the fees and i'll bring one down to your pad to test it out

Is Athem under WKH or HS??

HS and not WKH. My bad.

Anyway, Onkyo ain't cheap either.

I'll try out your suggestions. Hopefully will get the same results.

Btw except for Yamaha and Pioneer most of the receivers here are overpriced. Denon 4311 in Sg RM5.6k, here around RM10k, Onkyo 3309 around RM5.8k in Sg, here RM11k.

Yes, both Yammy and Pioneer have strict pricing and control as the companies are doing the marketing and A&P while the other 3 are being done by distributors.

Products from WKH might be but Hwee Seng wise, there's room for the negotiation.

You meant the 5509 not 3309? 5509 can be have locally close to the SG pricing which the amount is small enough to justify the trouble of going to SG to drag the unit back and warranty issue as well

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Added on February 29, 2012, 2:34 pmI was initially quite impressed with the LX90, or Susano they called it with its 10 channel ICE module used but was pulled back as the the HDMI is v1.3 and cant be upgraded. That's the bad thing when buying a receiver as once the pre section is outdated, there goes the power section if changing.

This post has been edited by Will.i.am.Smith: Feb 29 2012, 02:34 PM