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The Idiot Proof Guide To -> Laptop Cooling, All you need to know!

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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:19 PM, updated 5y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	Alright, this is for those who has queries on any laptop cooling related questions. For starters, I'd insist anyone using a notebook/netbook to use a cooler, as most pf them get hot over an extended period of time. But what cooler are you gonna buy? Cheap china tri-fan-blue-LED ones? Or a decent CoolerMaster? Well, like I said, depends on scenario. So, if you're budget is -> RM0-10 Here, you can, DIY your own cooler, or use those Made-In-China ones. My bet goes for the DIY option, as there are many ways you can cool and customize your cooler. Brands from this range is only those China ones. Other than buying cheap coolers, you may want to start from buying a can of compressed air (available at most established computer stores). This is a cheap and effective option. Should you need any help in terms of DIY, here's the place to go. RM10-RM50 From here, you can opt for imitation Cooler Master coolers. Whether they work as well as the real thing, that I cannot guarantee. There are many types of imitations, from the Cooler Master Notepal X1 to the X2. lol. But honestly, to me, I think they're all from the same OEM manufacturer. So it also depends on you. For this range, you can also choose the DIY route, as you have more cash to customize your cooler. For here, you may be able to get a Cooler Master (Second hand, maybe), but mostly would be Evercool etc. RM60-RM100 From this range, you can get yourself a decent Cooler Master cooler. If you're within the distance to Low Yat Plaza, do check out Viewnet, as the Infinite's price is currently at RM89. RM110-RM300 This is where the fun begins. You can get those Zalman coolers from this range. The idea is, the more you pay, the better the cooler? Well, I still need some user feedbacks regarding this issue. You may also find Logitech and Belkin coolers in this price range. Here's a list of threads selling laptop coolers. * Active as of 2/1/2010 * - Zalman Notebook Coolers by kin kin - Cooler Master Notebook Coolers by bruceleestore - YuLong Notebook Coolers by ngbh - Thermaltake Notebook Coolers by zhen^wei - Logitech Notebook Coolers by bluerhinoit - Thermapak Notebook Coolers by coolerlaptop - Cooler Master Notebook Coolers by leonlaitl - Cooler Master Notebook Coolers by zhen^wei - Zalman/Cooler Master Notebook Coolers by moderno * I cannot guarantee on stock availability. * Others - You may also want to consider undervolting your laptop. Do visit the thread for more details. - You can also remove your back panel. It may void your warranty, so be careful. This is also a widely used method. - Here's Najmods' method of cooling his Asus K40AB » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Najmods @ Feb 1 2010, 10:05 PM) Those are as hard as some older Acer laptop I used to dismantle. My ASUS k40AB is very easy to remove thankfully. For anyone who open their backpanel for extra cooling, you could do what I do. You know the thin white cloth you get when you first open up your laptop and its protecting the keyboard from the screen? I use that and cut it in size and put it to protect the fan from clogging with dust. At first I thought it would restrict airflow but it isn't, temperature remains the same and likewise when gaming and overclocking as well. This is how it looks like [attachmentid=1429498] Although I force the fan to run at 70-80% of the speed all the time by tapping the power from USB with a couple of resistor to the fan, so your result might differ - If you have a Notepal V1, like me, you may want to do this custom to "enable" more air going through. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « My unique stand to raise the butt up. Special non-slip rubber Grille removed to allow better airflow. - If you are brave enough, I'd also suggest you to replace the thermal compound of your laptop. - If you already have, let's say, a CM Infinite, and you're still getting higher temperatures, you may want to clear your laptop's heatsink, as it is a good trap for dust, especially if you remove your back panel. - Article from HP regarding dust removal. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The electrical components in a PC generate heat, and fans inside the PC help move the air to keep the components cooled to normal operating temperatures. Inadequate cooling can cause excess heat which forces the fan to run constantly, can damage components, and limit the speed of the CPU. All of these problems with high power and high heat will cause applications to work slower than normal. The sound of the fan running all the time may the first clue that your PC is not running as efficiently as possible and that you may have a problem with accumulated dust clogging air vents. Dust and lint on heat generating components and fans Notebook PCs have vents in the bottom and sides to allow air to flow through the case. If these vents become clogged or heat generating parts become covered with dust, the fan cannot cool the components properly. Lint and dust accumulation prevents air from flowing around the cooling fins and causes the fan to work harder. If there is dust in the vents, you should clean the computer by blowing out the dust from around the fan and heat shield. This will prevent dust from accumulating as shown below. Removing dust and lint by cleaning vents CAUTION: Ensure that the computer is turned off and the AC adapter is disconnected before spraying with compressed air to prevent damage to the notebook PC. The accumulation of dust can often be observed on the vents in the computer's case. You can use a can of compressed air as shown below to help remove the dust and prevent overheating. Removing the dust increases the air flow to improve cooling and allow the fan to run quieter. The cooling vents are located in various places depending on the PC model. You can identify the vents by looking for the copper or black fins inside the vents. You should also blow the compressed air into other openings such as the fan intake vent. This will help keep the air circulating and prevent dust from accumulating on components. By taking this action periodically as a preventive measure, you can greatly reduce the possibility of component damage and prevent the slowdown of the computer's performance. Source -> HP I will constantly update this page for relevant information. Cheers.
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	FAQs What if the cooler's fan(s) doesn't align to my laptop's fan? Better to get a cooler with a center fan(s), so the air will be spread evenly. Does the cooler's material matter? Generally speaking, yes. Aluminum coolers absorb the heat away from the laptop What about fan speed? Fan speed depends. Although it is better to get higher RPMs, but that would be higher noise as well. But if you can live with the noise, its not a problem. Feedbacks » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(tednet @ Jun 3 2009, 08:36 PM) mine dell, use CM X1... damn huge cooling area... my heat just <46C.. max load mean 98% load...52C only... lowyatt selling rm 72 if im not mistaken.. QUOTE(ISFJ @ Jun 4 2009, 05:29 PM) I'm using a Cooler Master NotePal Infinite, now my palm rest isn't so hot anymore QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Jun 5 2009, 12:32 PM) using coolermaster notepal infinite now plus undervolt 2.2ghz at 1.0375v full load at 92c Long Feedback QUOTE(highwind85 @ Feb 3 2010, 04:44 PM) I'll give my feedback on Zalman NC1000 + 15.6 inch BenQ S57... Initial test on idle temperature showed that the cooler manage to cool the cpu for about 8-10degC and 5-8degC for gpu in normal non aircond environment....I'll do some more test on full load and will update again... some feedback on 2-fan cap ayam cooler (cheapest cooler @ rm8.8)...Didn't do much to help reduce the temperature..After 1 month of usage, the fan started to make noise... Others Sometimes, it's the laptop designers' fault for it overheating. Here's a pic of a Compaq V3000 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Underside of the Compaq V3000 Closeup on the airvent. Notice how the design of the intake looks like. The actual air intake holes are actually less than 1/4 of the whole thing. Reviews on Laptop Coolers Read Here.
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	How to open up a Cooler Master Infinite by Onyx_black » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Onyx_black @ Jan 21 2009, 06:51 PM) I encountered the same exact problem as you a few months ago, I searched all around the Internet and came across with this statement from a NotebookReview forum moderator: "You will need a screw driver. Take off the 4 rubber pads on the metal mesh, then you should be able to see the screws. " That didn't helped me a lot, so I decided to tear this cooling pad down myself; it hurts I know, but at least I figured out a way to clean the fan! To clean the Cooler Master NotePal Infinite: 1) Carefully peel off those 4 long rubber strips on the metal mesh. 2) You'll find 4 silver color screws on the top left and right corner on the metal mesh; 4 black color screws on the lower left and right corner of the metal mesh. Unscrew all 8 of them using a proper screwdriver. Top right corner on the metal mesh; I unscrew one of them already. Lower left corner on the metal mesh; notice the 2 black screws are still intact. 3) Flip the cooling pad to reveal its black plastic underside, there are 2 prominent black screws at the lower center part of the cooling pad (like you've mentioned earlier); unscrew them as well. Underside of the cooling pad. The 2 black screws you've mentioned. 4) Notice those square rubber pads? Peel all 4 of them off carefully; you'll find 2 silver screws on the upper left and right corner of the bottom base and 2 black screws on the lower left and right corner of the bottom base where the rubber pads once hid them from sight. Unscrew all 4 of them. Note: Alternatively, you can just peel the lower 2 square rubber pads, because the two silver screws on the upper left and right corner of the bottom base doesn't inhibit you from opening the cooling pad. You can leave the silver screws (and the rubber pads on the upper left and right corner) alone if you so wish. Upper right corner of the bottom base. You can choose not to unscrew this screw and the other one on the left, it doesn't inhibit you from opening the Cooler Master Infinite. Lower left corner of the bottom base. 5) Once you've done that, you should be able to lift the metal mesh along with a butt shape black color plastic off the black plastic bottom base, refer to the picture below. But don't yank the metal mesh part just yet, there's a wire attached from the fan to the power supply unit/chip, disconnect the wire carefully. Notice there's a wire running along from the fan to the power supply/controller/chip. Once the wire is disconnected, you should be able to separate the metal mesh and butt shape plastic combo from the bottom base. Wire disconnected. This post has been edited by ericmaxman: Feb 22 2010, 09:25 PM
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	Continued from previous post. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Onyx_black @ Jan 21 2009, 06:54 PM) 6) Here comes the painful part, remove the brushed aluminum Cooler Master plate very carefully. Make sure you don't bend the aluminum plate as it's quite soft; if you're going to clean this cooling pad once in awhile I strongly suggest you to remove the aluminum plate and keep it somewhere safe. Once you've done that, there are 4 black screws and 3 silver screws (to secure the fan in place) waiting for you, unscrew the 4 black screws first, leave the silvers ones alone for now Remove the aluminum plate and keep it at some place safe. Remove the 4 black screws first; leave the 3 silver ones alone for now. 7) Flip the metal mesh part, there are a series of latching mechanisms at the sides on the metal mesh. With a firm push you should be able to free the metal mesh from the butt shape plastic. 8) Flip the metal mesh and you'll see the fan; flip it again and unscrew all 3 silver screws. The fan attached to the metal mesh. Unscrew all 3 silver screws to free the fan. 9) Slide the wire out of the latch to free the fan; now the fan is all yours for the cleaning. All the components of the Cooler Master NotePal Infinite, I hope this guide can benefit the owners of the Cooler Master Infinite. This post has been edited by ericmaxman: Feb 22 2010, 09:26 PM
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	Zalman NC2000 cooler meets Studio XPS 16 by -kytz- Condition of room Small room with either fan or air conditioner(blowing away from laptop) Condition of laptop RAM:3GB 1066MHz,HDD=320GB 7200RPM Idling,running only HW monitor and GPU-Z and other background processes CPU usage at constant 12% Ram usage at constant 38% » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ........................................................................................................................................ EXPERIMENT 1 :Without air conditioner usage(only fan) Situation 1 Without cooler CPU=38,GPU=54,HDD=38 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Situation2 With cooler CPU=34,GPU=49,HDD=35 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ........................................................................................................................................ EXPERIMENT 2 :Air conditioned room with constant 22C temperature Situation 1 Without cooler CPU=40C,GPU=52,HDD=38 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Situation 2 With cooler CPU=32,GPU=46,HDD=31 can bring this down to CPU=28C,GPU=42 if experimenting for longer hours » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ......................................................................................................................................... 1C was deducted from Processor and GPU temperatures because of the increased processor usage when using screen-snap programme(Sniping Tool) p/s : These temperatures are still higher than what i normally have because i haven't run this machine for a longer period.The lowest average temperatures i got before were CPU=28C,GPU=41C,HDD=30C Here's the screenshot » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « My honest opinion: The Zalman NC2000 works best when paired up with an air conditioner.Looking at the temperatures, it doesn't fare too badly when used in a non-air conditioned room.The high quality materials used in the production of the NC2000 pretty much helps a lot in heat dissipation and aiding air-flow.And yes it's pretty cold due to its full aluminium body Definitely worth the RM229 i paid or could i find any better ones? Another note:Will update temperatures of full CPU and GPU load This post has been edited by ericmaxman: Feb 27 2010, 05:59 PM
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	~ Reserved ~
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	Alright, thread officially reopened. All discussions are welcomed !!
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cy-yang	Feb 22 2010, 09:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
On my way Senior Member 563 posts Joined: Oct 2009	What cooler best fits my m17x?
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 09:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	QUOTE(cy-yang @ Feb 22 2010, 09:30 PM) What cooler best fits my m17x? Either the Cooler Master Infinite or Zalman NC2000 should do the job fine.
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cy-yang	Feb 22 2010, 09:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
On my way Senior Member 563 posts Joined: Oct 2009	QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Feb 22 2010, 09:31 PM) Either the Cooler Master Infinite or Zalman NC2000 should do the job fine. Price range? around 200+
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-kytz-	Feb 22 2010, 09:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
10k Club All Stars 12,573 posts Joined: Nov 2008	NC2000 is pretty big actually,can easily fit my 15.6".Try checking up on the dimensions @ericmaxman thumbs up for useful thread This post has been edited by -kytz-: Feb 22 2010, 09:50 PM
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TSericmaxman	Feb 22 2010, 10:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 22 2010, 09:49 PM) NC2000 is pretty big actually,can easily fit my 15.6".Try checking up on the dimensions @ericmaxman thumbs up for useful thread Just helping out us fellow forumers. I'm sure you all will find the guide useful.
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highwind85	Feb 23 2010, 12:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
~Lone Ranger~ Senior Member 948 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: Canberra, Australia	what happened to the old thread?
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TSericmaxman	Feb 23 2010, 07:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	QUOTE(highwind85 @ Feb 23 2010, 12:27 AM) what happened to the old thread? Not enough reserved posts.
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alexng2208	Feb 23 2010, 07:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
Why my warn is 0%? i miss my high warn Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Jul 2007	http://goo.gl/nXbR http://goo.gl/WSZ3 I am currently using this laptop cooler.
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TSericmaxman	Feb 23 2010, 09:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Feb 23 2010, 07:42 AM) http://goo.gl/nXbR http://goo.gl/WSZ3 I am currently using this laptop cooler. How well does this work for you?
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highwind85	Feb 23 2010, 11:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
~Lone Ranger~ Senior Member 948 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: Canberra, Australia	QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Feb 23 2010, 07:29 AM) Not enough reserved posts. i see i see.....keep up the good work...
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TSericmaxman	Feb 25 2010, 08:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
- Senior Member 7,951 posts Joined: Sep 2005	I'm opened to suggestions and questions. Cheers!!
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razorboy	Feb 26 2010, 09:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
#winning Senior Member 2,634 posts Joined: Dec 2008	so for toshiba m200 p434?
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