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 ♦ ♦ ♦ PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V10 ♦ ♦ ♦, The Journey Continues...

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post Apr 24 2010, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(Twist @ Apr 23 2010, 10:24 PM)
Thanks for ur info..but i think semi syn oil is not better enough...but is fully syn..the price is RM180 for Petronas Syntium 1000..the grade is same like 800..15w50..i really duno how...tis is my 1st car...and i wan it to get the best for it..but..my pocket sure will heavily damage if use Syntium 1000 =.="
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From ppl feedback, our BLM not suitable to use full syn oil, else the tapper sound is noticeable (i also don't know how the tapper sound was), if want full syn, maybe after u no longer service at Proton SC, because 180 is alot expensive than outside, not worth it.


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QUOTE(finalazy84 @ Apr 23 2010, 10:19 PM)
my tips to prevent those stupid guys from scratching ur car:

dont wash ur car.let it look dirty.if u make it too shiny (new paint) then it will attract those stupid people.
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Absolutely.

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post Apr 24 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Apr 24 2010, 10:48 AM)
Yes, when I asked a different SA he said that the company didn't update their website becoz they stop selling it oredi. Honestly for the advertised price of 39k (basic, manual) it is a good deal to get 1.6+DOHC at that price. It might even give better FC than 1.3. I don't understand why they stopped selling it.


Added on April 24, 2010, 10:57 am

Have they bought insurance & road tax for your car yet? If yes, then you rugi ~$4 a day for every day they didn't deliver to you. That's what happened in my case. So means if they delay 1 month, then my insurance/rd tax only usable for 11 months. Wtf.
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Maybe due to marketing strategy. 1.6 Saga uses same engine as Persona, try to think if they mass pro 1.6 Saga at RM39k only, then Persona sales will be affected.

Same like Persona and Waja, they both should use the same engine, but end up with Waja wif more powerful CPS while Persona only IAFM. (older car use more powerful engine then new design car).

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post Apr 25 2010, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Apr 24 2010, 10:52 PM)
Comparing with Wira, when my BLM manual goes 80km/h on 5th gear, engine is 2500 rpm.

For Wira 1.5 manual, at same speed/gear, engine is only 1800-2000 rpm.

Ok different engine & gear ratios, understood, but it also means BLM engine must turn 20-30% faster to achieve same speed as Wira. Its like a jogger with short legs have to run harder to keep up with the jogger with long legs. Might this be why FC is not as good as ppl expect, compared to Wira/Iswara?

What modifications have you done to improve FC, and do they work?

Or would you like to share about what modification *doesn't* work? (I heard those fuel line magnets are a waste of money, dunno true or not.)
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No choice, Campro is high rev engine + body weight heavier than Wira and Iswara, so they have to shorten the gear ratios for better pickup.

for better FC, dun rev ur engine more than 3k rpm on 1-4th gear.
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Apr 25 2010, 07:31 AM)
Actually my SA went thru hell to get it. Because the so-called new system jammed everything, he had to drive a long distance to the yard and find my car by hand. There were about 10,000 cars in the yard he said and it was a hot day. I hope they fix that damn system soon.
The first tank I filled up to 4 notches. Traveled 50km @ about 60-70km/h and it went down to 3 notches. That's crazy. Wonder if removing the spare tyre will have any impact on FC.
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dun look at the fuel gauge to judge the FC, pump in full tank next time to get the FC figure. That spare tyre not more than 10kg, it won't affects the FC.

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Apr 26 2010, 06:16 PM)
Just now I went to the SC to find the source of the noise. It turned out to be the fan. They said previous models got 2 fans, 1 for radiator, 1 for aircon. Now there's only 1 fan for both. It spins harder so its louder, and they said this noise is normal for BLM. Wah, to me it sounds like a bad alternator. Oh well...
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Simply because radiators for BLM (Both engine and aircon) are ALOT wider and taller than Wira/Iswara radiator, thats why BLM don't need so many fans, just open the bonnet and compare u will know the difference.

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post Apr 29 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Apr 29 2010, 06:28 PM)
I used to think blm is smaller than the old Saga, even though the brochure said its a bit bigger. And then I took this photo.

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Dunno why but blm looks so small on the road.  laugh.gif
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definitely bigger la... laugh.gif

it looks small on road maybe due to taller + narrow body + small size tyre. laugh.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Apr 30 2010, 01:38 PM)
oh... haha.. i tot sth is wrong wit my engine or gas pedal...
i still feel tat the old iswara driving experience nicer..  blush.gif

btw.... the manual gear in neutral mode.. its actualy tilt towards driver rite?
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It actually caused by drive-by-wire DELAY.

When u press clutch, the delay cause the throttle still on for 0.5s after u release it, so same like u cruising and suddenly press clutch without release throttle, the engine suddenly no load and the rpm will go up (much higher).

You have to release the pedal fully before u press clutch, when u adapt with BLM gear shift, u will choke when u drive iswara later. tongue.gif

Yes, it tilt towards ur side.

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QUOTE(sohailili @ May 2 2010, 11:04 AM)
yea.. i fill after warnin light came out.. but is stop itself at about rm50.xx
when i start my engine.. the indicator go up fast but the highest bar seems a bit longer to lit..
i drive about 30km only.. already drop 1 bar.. is tat normal?
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About 'full tank', different petrol station will give you different 'full tank' level, it depends on the nozzle itself.

For my car, when the nozzle auto stop, my 1st bar can last 70-80km. But if i pump until i can see the fuel nearly flow out, my 1st bar can last for 100-110km. So don't judge ur FC based on the fuel gauge unless u fill up like me, FULL.

When the warning light is out, ur fuel tank still got 10+L fuel left, i normally will keep going 60-80km before i refuel.

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QUOTE(sonotme @ May 2 2010, 05:04 PM)
aik my first 3 bar takes me to 200km then the last few bars drop very dramatic one.. like until 280 lights on d.. but if i keep driving on, the light will off and on again like few km later.. weird @.@
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Not weird, because petrol is fluid, it depends ur car position.

Let say at 10cm the warning light will out, >10cm is last bar display on fuel gauge, so if ur car is moving or going uphill/downhill, the petrol will move inside the fuel tank as well, so when the fuel level is flow between 10cm and >10cm, the warning light will on and off.

Not to say the warning light, even sometimes the 1st bar is gone, it will came back after few KM later.

hope this clear ur doubt.

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post May 4 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(izdyharz @ May 4 2010, 03:06 PM)
Myth busted lar, some people claim can go more than 60KM after the warning light came out n blinking.
Hmm i cant remember exactly how much but i pumped back half tank only coz didnt bring enuff money.
Anways, 53KM after the warning light start blinking. I resetted the meter right after it started blinking.
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Driving style + transmission + traffic determine the outcome. Not a myth at all for more than 60KM.

But of course u are encourage to refuel once the light came out, else u risk ur own safety on road. smile.gif

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QUOTE(sonotme @ May 5 2010, 12:52 AM)
I remember driving on the way to Penang and after gunung something, my light came on but there was no more petrol station!
then i drove like 80-90 all the way until I reach near Penang got one petrol station and pump. about 100km with the light on! damn scary~
it was my first time i reach 400km+ for full tank  thumbup.gif
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My record of highest mileage with one tank is 530KM from JB to Ipoh, after the fuel light came out i also go for 90KM, then only manage to pump RM57 into...in highway, u can roughly calculate ur car FC so u can estimate left over 10L after light came out can give you approximate mileage.

But yes, damn scary. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tednet @ May 8 2010, 12:45 AM)
guys... just want to know... can anyone estimate how much for the 5000km service cost?? and what usually they change?

going for the service tomorrow mornin...
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same as 1st service, engine oil + filter, not more than that.
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QUOTE(nabelon @ May 9 2010, 11:31 AM)
my alarm system won't stop beeping, i don't know whats wrong, all the doors are in shut tight, it only stops whenever i turn the ignition to on position or start the engine.
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Open ur boot and slamp it.
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QUOTE(jenli_84 @ May 9 2010, 01:52 PM)
but when im there asking them to check they said nothing...darn
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10 out of 10 here are caused by the boot, not door or bonnet. If you browse back the previous thread, V10 ~ 25k posts sweat.gif u will know.

Open and slam it.
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QUOTE(nabelon @ May 11 2010, 09:41 PM)
Mine is manual and yeah its damn noisy at 4k rpm, but that is where the oomph starts...at least can insulate sound at 120kmh ok la but at stock sits untolerable
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Actually the oomph ended at 4k @ 120km/h, you can try to press pedal, the acceleration is lesser than before 4k, because adi over torque peak @ 4k rpm.
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QUOTE(weisern @ May 11 2010, 10:24 PM)
Hi guys!

New owner here. Just got it today. Silver, M line, Manual.
So far so good. Just got a scratch on the tint at the back door and small scratch on the left fender. Left back door can't close properly. Need to slam harder. =.=''
Overall quality wise...u get what u pay for...

Kinda weird driving this manual than others...don't now how to explain but feels odd.

Got a couple of questions:
1) It is kind of hard to get into second gear. Anyone got this problem before?

2) What psi/kpa should i pump the tire? I went to pump just now, the original pressure was 250kpa for front and back..then i check the car back seat, it states front 210kpa, back 190kpa.
Tried following the stated car pressure...saw the tire started to flatten...then pump back 245....haha

Hope u guys can help me on these. thanks.
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245 is too high, 220 for front is OK, even max don over 230, else the tyre center thread will worn very fast.

The front will always look flatten due to engine weight (damn heavy), high profile tyre and small rim(185/60/R14), so don pump based on what u saw, for rear 200~210 should be ok.

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ May 12 2010, 10:10 PM)
suggest dun insulate firewall area as said here, if not done properly your dashboard will rattle and will void warranty also.
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Agree, especially dashboard without dissemble also start to rattling adi...
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QUOTE(jaya_pc87 @ May 13 2010, 07:22 PM)
manual?

my frens manual can go top 195 - he changed piping completely though

my auto max can go is 175 km - melaka to jb under 1hr 10mins , melaka to kl under 40mins smile.gif

fc is damn bad at this speed tongue.gif
if i drive at 90~100km/h average can get 450KM = RM50


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brand new for that price low end viva will be a good choice
second hand its not worth it to grab a kelisa or kenari
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195km/h @ 6.5k RPM...Campro rev limit at 7k RPM, if top can go 210km/h blink.gif sweat.gif

i tried 185km/h on my manual before, really fast, imagine if one of the tyre let go i will become powder...

Don't drive so fast la...anything >140km/h on BLM is dangerous la...

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QUOTE(nabelon @ May 13 2010, 09:46 PM)
imo 120-130 is the best cruising speed, but if pecut 160 also ok.
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Yes but not for BLM especially manual, >120km/h @ >4k rpm, noisy and bad FC, to achieve best FC <100km/h is a fact for BLM.
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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 13 2010, 10:08 PM)
A few weeks ago I had a problem with petrol smell coming into my cabin. Went to the SC, they said they couldn't find anything wrong but tightened something in the engine & the smell went away for a couple of days. Now its back. Anybody got any idea what could cause petrol smell inside your car?

My odo is about 600km, not even 1st service yet & got all these problems, haih...
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Hmm, your aircon air selection knob (recirculation) is fully to the right or not?

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