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 ♦ ♦ ♦ PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V10 ♦ ♦ ♦, The Journey Continues...

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TSxshiro
post Jul 13 2010, 05:21 PM

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have seen similar stuff in mudah before...like last year..nobody tried it?


Added on July 13, 2010, 5:23 pm
QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Jul 11 2010, 10:36 PM)
It's a Saga SE with dual airbags, Nappa leather and 2 rear power windows.

EXTRA RM 10,000...whoa
P/S - At least add in 2 rear disc brakes as well la hehe. I think most people would opt for the Persona Elegance at RM 54K
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similar like the australia version...except no abs...

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post Jul 13 2010, 05:32 PM

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Now that i've seen the price, i'm not so sakit hati edi, coz i just bought my M-Line recently. Hahaha.

The specs are good, but still no abs and it's practically the price of a Persona M-Line edi. I'd take the Persona anytime, at that price.
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post Jul 14 2010, 09:15 AM

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morning guys... few weeks alrdy didnt come in..
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post Jul 14 2010, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(kaizou @ Jul 12 2010, 10:04 PM)
i somehow able to search it on mudah. its the motor + switch wasnt it?

http://www.mudah.my/Saga+blm+rear+power+window-5636385.htm

linlong auto....  hmm.gif
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Oh, what i mean is this not manufacture by proton. This consider as third party or aftermarket parts.

Beside proton launch a 4power window for new or facelift saga blm then i will consider to change it.
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post Jul 14 2010, 11:27 AM

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im not interested in adding auto window for the rear doors as i will kill my passengers if they open the rear windows.so no point installing it since i dun plan to wind it down pun.that is aftermarket stuff, linlong provides installations.location: klang.
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post Jul 14 2010, 03:11 PM

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Guys.... sad.gif Just had a trip to Genting wif my wifey on our car (Auto)....Very sad when climbing d hill...just like a lorry......tried using 3rd & 2nd gear but result is d same......

When on our way down....d screeching sound (may b brake or somethin from tyre) very loud...after a while dissapeared but came back on & off......

Can someone help me on this..... sad.gif pls.....
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JimboXE@
**use shell ron97 v-power prior to genting trip
**install noise insulation material on the fron bonnet cover. at least, it lessened the noise in minimal way.
**use better drop in air filter for slight increase of power / 4-2-1 extractor.

the sound was prolly' from the brake. i do notice the rear drum brake is quite noisy. saga brake is quite weak.
are you still using the stock tyre? the lousy stock tyre does contribute to the bad ride(due to bad traction and grip) overall.
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post Jul 14 2010, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jul 14 2010, 04:23 PM)
JimboXE@
**use shell ron97 v-power prior to genting trip
**install noise insulation material on the fron bonnet cover. at least, it lessened the noise in minimal way.
**use better drop in air filter for slight increase of power / 4-2-1 extractor.

the sound was prolly' from the brake. i do notice the rear drum brake is quite noisy. saga brake is quite weak.
are you still using the stock tyre? the lousy stock tyre does contribute to the bad ride(due to bad traction and grip) overall.
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Pumped a full tank of Shell Ron 97 v-power & headed to Genting straight....engine noise not a problem...& oledy using redline drop in filter.......extractor not yet..in d midst of scheduling.

I think my Sunny B11 does better than BLM when climbing hills...but then it's a manual la.... (SIGH).... doh.gif

I was thinking of replacing all d 4 brake pads to Bendix Metal King Titanium hmm.gif Wonder if it will cost me a bom......

Nevertheless.....I appreciate ur reply, bro yngwie.


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nah, should be on ron97 v-power at least 3 days prior to genting trip. this will allow the engine / ecu to adapt to the higher ron grade.
there is no immediate effect feel' even if it's almost an empty tank.
changing to performance brake pad is a waste of money. remember; bendix mkt is a performance brake pad. it will only works well in certain temperature but that isn't a problem.
bendix metal king need to be paired with performance disc brake for maximum performance. while paired with stock saga disc, all you get is more dust and worn out disc at a lot more higher rate. btw, saga rear brake is of drum type. bendix does not produce a performance brake shoe.
beside changing to better / wider profile tyre, rear disc brake conversion might help or dual layer brake servo for solid feel.
another option is using twinpot stopper at the front but this will require at least 15" wheels.
there are only 2 thing that matter most when it comes to brake stopping capability; the amount of caliper, and the size of the disc.
anything else will only compromise on fade effect.
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post Jul 14 2010, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jul 14 2010, 04:48 PM)
nah, should be on ron97 v-power at least 3 days prior to genting trip. this will allow the engine / ecu to adapt to the higher ron grade.
there is no immediate effect feel' even if it's almost an empty tank.
changing to performance brake pad is a waste of money. remember; bendix mkt is a performance brake pad. it will only works well in certain temperature but that isn't a problem.
bendix metal king need to be paired with performance disc brake for maximum performance. while paired with stock saga disc, all you get is more dust and worn out disc at a lot more higher rate. btw, saga rear brake is of drum type. bendix does not produce a performance brake shoe.
beside changing to better / wider profile tyre, rear disc brake conversion might help or dual layer brake servo for solid feel.
another option is using twinpot stopper at the front but this will require at least 15" wheels.
there are only 2 thing that matter most when it comes to brake stopping capability; the amount of caliper, and the size of the disc.
anything else will only compromise on fade effect.
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shocking.gif bro...I didn't know that! luckily I havent' replace it wif Bendix.....however there must be a brake pad brand that is better paired wif BLM right? doh.gif Problems after problems......(haiz).

Widening will sacrifice my FC....oledy d FC is not that good. Aiyoyo! How la....?

I think my car had d same problem wif Torresism which 1 time after service...car got instant power....after 5k km...service another time.....straight away d previous power gain kaput.....till now after yet anopther service wif Denso IR somemore...gain back a little........ shakehead.gif
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JimboXE@
actually, the standard bosch / mintex brake pad is already good enough. perhaps, you could consider braided brake hose upgrade which
eliminate the bubbling thus give a better braking feel.
it's normal on saga. problem was we did not know which brand of semi-synth was the proton service center pour in.
if you noticed, car wil return a slightly good fc after every service.
195/55/r15 should be fine. still return around 0.18/km on ron95.
consider investing on voltage stabilizer. it's quite effective in it's own way.
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QUOTE(JimboXE @ Jul 14 2010, 04:30 PM)
Pumped a full tank of Shell Ron 97 v-power & headed to Genting straight....engine noise not a problem...& oledy using redline drop in filter.......extractor not yet..in d midst of scheduling.

I think my Sunny B11 does better than BLM when climbing hills...but then it's a manual la.... (SIGH).... doh.gif


I was thinking of replacing all d 4 brake pads to Bendix Metal King Titanium  hmm.gif  Wonder if it will cost me a bom......

Nevertheless.....I appreciate ur reply, bro yngwie.
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your blm is an auto? tried genting...? normal la auto..cannot naik bukit as good as manual

This post has been edited by xshiro: Jul 14 2010, 05:32 PM
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post Jul 14 2010, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(JimboXE @ Jul 14 2010, 04:30 PM)
Pumped a full tank of Shell Ron 97 v-power & headed to Genting straight....engine noise not a problem...& oledy using redline drop in filter.......extractor not yet..in d midst of scheduling.

I think my Sunny B11 does better than BLM when climbing hills...but then it's a manual la.... (SIGH).... doh.gif

I was thinking of replacing all d 4 brake pads to Bendix Metal King Titanium  hmm.gif  Wonder if it will cost me a bom......

Nevertheless.....I appreciate ur reply, bro yngwie.
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only need to change 2 brake pad...the rear is drum brake
i think 100-120...can search from garage sales
planning to change mine to that as well when it's time to change
did u open aircon when going up....cuz if u dn't....i dn't see it had any problem going up genting...even if it's auto

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post Jul 15 2010, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jul 14 2010, 04:48 PM)
nah, should be on ron97 v-power at least 3 days prior to genting trip. this will allow the engine / ecu to adapt to the higher ron grade.
there is no immediate effect feel' even if it's almost an empty tank.
changing to performance brake pad is a waste of money. remember; bendix mkt is a performance brake pad. it will only works well in certain temperature but that isn't a problem.
bendix metal king need to be paired with performance disc brake for maximum performance. while paired with stock saga disc, all you get is more dust and worn out disc at a lot more higher rate. btw, saga rear brake is of drum type. bendix does not produce a performance brake shoe.
beside changing to better / wider profile tyre, rear disc brake conversion might help or dual layer brake servo for solid feel.
another option is using twinpot stopper at the front but this will require at least 15" wheels.
there are only 2 thing that matter most when it comes to brake stopping capability; the amount of caliper, and the size of the disc.
anything else will only compromise on fade effect.
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Bendix Metal king titanium brake that can pair with stock disc rotor, enjoy better stopping power and of cause disc rotor will worn out faster.

Bendix Metal King Titanium Pads are manufactured using a genuine Superior Metallic Formulation - SMF. SMF is a combination of unique friction compounds which offers supreme braking performance for your prestige vehicle. Whether you are in the city, on the freeway or carrying a full load, Bendix Metal King Titanium has excellent fade resistance and extended pad life. For truer grip in repeated and high temperature applications you get full control and confident braking.

Bendix Metal King Titanium Pads feature a unique Titanium Stripe to provide instant friction and no bedding in. It means positive pedal feel and sure stopping power from the minute you drive out of the workshop. No bedding-in also means considerable hours saved each year.

Bendix Metal King are well famous brand in world and most australian using this pad for their stock car with stock caliper why our blm cant?


Added on July 15, 2010, 12:21 amI would suggest to change fully sync at rating 5w30 or 10w30 and invest some electronic device like pivot vs-e, spark earth, ignition earth cable, iridium plug, drop in filter. For brake pad, bendix mkt, mintex are good enough, bosch brake pad consider as oem spec which better then stock lil bit.

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post Jul 15 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jul 14 2010, 05:21 PM)
JimboXE@
actually, the standard bosch / mintex brake pad is already good enough. perhaps, you could consider braided brake hose upgrade which
eliminate the bubbling thus give a better braking feel.
it's normal on saga. problem was we did not know which brand of semi-synth was the proton service center pour in.
if you noticed, car wil return a slightly good fc after every service.
195/55/r15 should be fine. still return around 0.18/km on ron95.
consider investing on voltage stabilizer. it's quite effective in it's own way.
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Thinking of doing up d brake hose too......About d engine oil, I thought so...but d recent service I had my dad witnessing d mechanic change d oil I purchase from a regular spare part shop.....still not as good as d 1st time. sad.gif


Added on July 15, 2010, 10:42 am
QUOTE(xshiro @ Jul 14 2010, 05:22 PM)
your blm is an auto? tried genting...?  normal la auto..cannot naik bukit as good as manual
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Bro xshiro...that I know...but not really comparing wif manual saga blm but rather....lorry wei.. shocking.gif

Mine is auto.....what 2 do...wifey can't drive manual (haiz).....


Added on July 15, 2010, 10:44 am
QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 14 2010, 06:37 PM)
only need to change 2 brake pad...the rear is drum brake
i think 100-120...can search from garage sales
planning to change mine to that as well when it's time to change
did u open aircon when going up....cuz if u dn't....i dn't see it had any problem going up genting...even if it's auto
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Problem is air-cond shut....even using 2nd gear also like going at 20km/h....... doh.gif


Added on July 15, 2010, 10:48 am
QUOTE(Kent Goh @ Jul 15 2010, 12:15 AM)
Bendix Metal king titanium brake that can pair with stock disc rotor, enjoy better stopping power and of cause disc rotor will worn out faster.

Bendix Metal King Titanium Pads are manufactured using a genuine Superior Metallic Formulation - SMF. SMF is a combination of unique friction compounds which offers supreme braking performance for your prestige vehicle. Whether you are in the city, on the freeway or carrying a full load, Bendix Metal King Titanium has excellent fade resistance and extended pad life. For truer grip in repeated and high temperature applications you get full control and confident braking.

Bendix Metal King Titanium Pads feature a unique Titanium Stripe to provide instant friction and no bedding in. It means positive pedal feel and sure stopping power from the minute you drive out of the workshop. No bedding-in also means considerable hours saved each year.

Bendix Metal King are well famous brand in world and most australian using this pad for their stock car with stock caliper why our blm cant?


Added on July 15, 2010, 12:21 amI would suggest to change fully sync at rating 5w30 or 10w30 and invest some electronic device like pivot vs-e, spark earth, ignition earth cable, iridium plug, drop in filter. For brake pad, bendix mkt, mintex are good enough, bosch brake pad consider as oem spec which better then stock lil bit.
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Actually...my friend who is working in Volvo also asked me 2 change to Bendix.....but now confused. Last time I asked if I were to use 5-30 or 10-30.....someone advised me not to risk it as d viscoscity is not suitable.....Now I'm even more confused.......

vmad.gif tension!

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jul 14 2010, 11:27 AM)
kaizou
im not interested in adding auto window for the rear doors as i will kill my passengers if they open the rear windows.so no point installing it since i dun plan to wind it down pun.that is aftermarket stuff, linlong provides installations.location: klang.
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Lucky u lar can kill the back passenger rclxms.gif . its my 2 kids behind...its better if i'm the one in charge rather than scold them + cannot kill one maa... laugh.gif . so much process + time consuming to produce whistling.gif
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QUOTE(JimboXE @ Jul 15 2010, 10:40 AM)
Thinking of doing up d brake hose too......About d engine oil, I thought so...but d recent service I had my dad witnessing d mechanic change d oil I purchase from a regular spare part shop.....still not as good as d 1st time.  sad.gif


Added on July 15, 2010, 10:42 am

Bro xshiro...that I know...but not really comparing wif manual saga blm but rather....lorry wei.. shocking.gif

Mine is auto.....what 2 do...wifey can't drive manual (haiz).....


Added on July 15, 2010, 10:44 am

Problem is air-cond shut....even using 2nd gear also like going at 20km/h....... doh.gif


Added on July 15, 2010, 10:48 am

Actually...my friend who is working in Volvo also asked me 2 change to Bendix.....but now confused. Last time I asked if I were to use 5-30 or 10-30.....someone advised me not to risk it as d viscoscity is not suitable.....Now I'm even more confused.......

vmad.gif tension!
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u got press full throttle or not?
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QUOTE(smokey @ Jul 15 2010, 02:30 PM)
u got press full throttle or not?
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I did bro....pedal to d metal using 2nd & 3rd gear....unfortunately, no difference in d RPM nor speed (km/h)...

That's y so tension & headache. I even thought of sending it to Powerzone for a diagnosis.....how la..... cry.gif
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strange...
i only get 20kmh at the last corner to genting...the most steep 1...
all the way can 40-60kmh
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post Jul 15 2010, 04:33 PM

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bro...i tried - shift L then 2 more powerful than simply use 2...

normal climbing 2-3rd gear

then steep one use L/2

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