I've been accepted for the intake this month.

But by tomorrow noon I'll have to confirm my choice of pathway, either PMS Graduate or Local IMU.

I know in the ideal PMS Graduate is better than Local IMU by leaps, but the non-ideal part is the financial issues.
My sister and brother's tertiary education are soon to begin, so the nearly twofold tuition is actually quite taxing.

Anyway, when trying to determine the quality of IMU Local's qualification. I heard examples like some seniors have upon completing USLME, secured specialty training positions in US with the local IMU qualification. Is that true?

Is there any IMU Local students, especially 3rd , 4th and 5th year students I can talk to?

Thanks

This post has been edited by ShaneNg: Feb 3 2010, 08:04 PM

my bf is in imu, 4th year. i will help u to ask him ^^

You have to go though several test in order to be posted in US.
As you know their system are slightly different from us.

And ya, IMU degree is worldwide recognize.
Not that certain universities are yet to register with MQA or edu board.

If you wants to save money, do locally.
You can choose to do your postgraduate overseas, which will be better than doing it in Malaysia. A lot of my seniors choosing this path. Graduate from IMU, then went to UK for specialization.

Note that I'm not medic student nor sciences.
But I still know all these stuff. I once applied, but changed my mind

If you really can't make decision, just call them out and postponed the dateline. They wouldn't mind

To clarify whether the (local) degree is recognized, you should check out other countries' Medical Board.

AFAIK, Singapore and Australia does NOT recognize the local IMU MBBS degree.

that is NOT correct.........

imu mbbs is only recognised in msia and sri lanka..........and nowhere else...........

you will have significant obstacles trying to get registered to work in uk, as your degree will not be recognised........and there is a current rule that disallow img (international medical graduates, or doctors who do not graduate from uk/eu) from undergoing specialist training in uk..............

why is pms undergraduate not an option?........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2010, 01:47 AM

This is exactly the reason why some of the information on forum are so wrong. Heck, many countries don't even recognize University of Malaya's medical degree so where got chance for IMU?

This is what happened when bullshits sound so true in a forum. This is so wrong.

That is what IMU's counselor told me when i apply.
Their information is always wrong.

I've heard lots of parents complaint about their information upon application

There's always right and wrong.
Why don't you create a thread to provide 100% ACCURATE information for EVERYTHING
and there won't be anything to be wrong and bullshits?

To Kellyyhx,

Sorry if i sounded too harsh, but if you are not certain about the status of accreditation for IMU MBBS please do not mislead our TS.

I was once told the same, graduate locally and do specialisation overseas, apparently it was a lie, very bad lie that almost jeopardize my future.

What limeuu said is true, perhaps only 1-10% of IMU MBBS will finally end up overseas, i dont have any figure actually, just a wild guess, but looking at UK's EU law and Aussie's difficulty in taking in their own intern, chances are getting slimmer and slimmer.

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Feb 6 2010, 04:17 PM

While we all make mistake, at least try to present it in a way that is less authoritative. The way you put it makes it look like 100% fact when it is instead wrong and ended up misleading the TS.

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Added on February 6, 2010, 4:39 pmAFAIK, anyone regardless of what degree you have including IMU's, you can go sit for the US USLME medical examination. If you pass, you can apply to work in US and I presume, specialization as well.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Feb 6 2010, 04:41 PM

don't blame the counselors. i do NOT think they will give such obviously wrong information.......the usual reason is a lack of understanding by applicants and parents..........and hearing the info you want to hear, instead of what is said..........

if you ask 'is it possible for my son/daughter to work overseas next time'.........the answer is 'yes'........and that's not wrong........

if you ask 'is it easy to get jobs overseas after graduation' then you will get a different answer.......

they will tell you 'there have been some graduates who have found jobs in the usa, and are undergoing specialist training there'........and you will think everybody can do that......but a searching additional question 'how many have done so, and what do they need to do to get jobs there' will bring forth the right answers..........

let me give you a real life example of misunderstanding........a friend called me, to ask me about imu, saying his son has been offered a place in imu medicine.........but that was in mid january, and i know all offers have made before christmas.......and he said he has no further news from imu........

i said, therefore it is likely the son has NOT been offered, and he replied 'but the counselor said there is offer and i even paid the fees already and we received no letter of rejection'.........well, the 'fees' was the application fees.........and when he called imu, he was told the son has not met the cutoff and there is NO offer........not even 2nd round..........

at the end of the day...............caveat emptor.........

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Added on February 6, 2010, 4:52 pmthat is correct..........the us does NOT recognise any medical degree other than their own, and ALL foreigners (and us citizens) with other qualification will need to pass all 3 usmle steps to be eligible for jobs.............

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2010, 04:52 PM

That's right, for most IMU MBBS graduates the best pathway to overseas is USMLE. But many may change their plans after they graduate, ie partner, bf gf, system, sick of sitting exams, etc etc. And the hardest part is to readapt yourself in a foreign country with a different system and communication.

Hey Shane! So you'll be coming into IMU in a few weeks eh? I'm currently in IMU and just finished my 3rd semester, so I can't really tell you too much about the PMS programme since I'll only be going overseas next year.

However, if you have any other questions, i'll be glad to help! You'll be seeing me around for your orientation =)

PMS is costly and not everybody can afford it,including me.
As for Malaysians,so far the best private U for medic(excluding overseas U MY campus)

I know the admission for MBBS @ IMU is pretty difficult considering that competition is always high for medical courses. if i were to score 1A, 2B's for my A-Levels are there any chances for me to get admitted into the MBBS programme at IMU? A for Math and B's for Bio and Chem.

Chemistry is the most important subject. If you are not very good at it, you may not be so suitable for medicine because there are more qualified people than yourself. But I am sure if you have the money, some university somewhere will take you on.

Make sure you score A for all subjects, easy.
Yup, you are qualified for 1A2B result as stated. Make sure prepare the money.

As far as I am concerned, that I heard from my friend in IMU, the IMU degree is listed on a list published by WHO. With the degree on that list, your IMU degree MIGHT be able to allow you to work overseas, provided you met the requirement by the country you wish to work in.
Well, something like that...

that is incorrect...........who listing is of no consequence in most countries.........

Mind shedding some light about the WHO list.
Can't recall really well what he said last time already.

Hey, sorry I lost track of this thread cause it was quite cold.

Limeuu:
The difference between PMS graduate and Local could be vast, especially in the event I'm matched to ANU or Warwick. And I was quite daunted by the 'medical student tsunami' furor at Aus.

Yea, about the WHO list, I dont really see the accuracy in it as a benchmark if 'The Med School' from Russia is included in it...

Thanks

This post has been edited by ShaneNg: Feb 19 2010, 09:12 PM

Hey guys thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it . And yea i do love Chem actually. I've gain an interest for Chem and Bio since i was form 4.

Frankly, the thought of doin medicine never came across my mind cause i was just thinking of doin something related to either Chem or Bio which was Pharmacy or Physiotherapy. But then my friends and relatives encourage me to pursue med saying it can be quite a fulfilling career to assist ppl in the area of healthcare. I am well aware though of the difficulty and hardships that most doctors have to face as the medical profession is a life long career that requires a life long commitment but i'm sure that at the end of the day, my passion of helping ppl should drive me and motivate me to give all out for this.

it's just a list of med schools.........that's all.........means nothing at individual country level.......

anu/warick?...........so you are in the pms-graduate stream.......?

Limeuu:
Yeap,...you didnt sound as if there was something wrong, did you?

aku88:
I would, like a foresight if I would be 'tormented' in the notorious IMU orientation...
Haha, thanks for reaching out, how would I find you in the school?

Thanks

This post has been edited by ShaneNg: Feb 20 2010, 09:07 AM

Shane,

No matter what you do. Just enjoy the orientation. Sure it may be dirty and humiliating at times but it is definitely one of the best times there are. You can choose not to do the activity but then you'll lose out A LOT.

this intake will be the last batch on the old differential fees system..........from august, the fees for both phases will be the same.......the total fees for the local stream is still the same, phase 1 fees goes up rm5k/sem and phase 2 comes down rm5k/sem.........

but it means pms stream students will now need to pay rm25k more for the phase 1.........

subtle way for imu to increase their fees........the majority of students are in pms stream.......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 20 2010, 08:54 AM

That makes PMS even poorer value for money compared to before.

By opting for cheaper university and lower living cost cities like Leeds in UK, I reckon doing the entire course oversea will be almost the same as IMU-PMC. Mainly because you do 2.5 yrs pre-clinical in IMU instead of only 2 yrs overseas.

Hey just want to ask, why is IMU's MBBS fees relatively much higher than other medical schools in Malaysia? Cause I've compared the 5+0 MBBS course with other unis. it seems to be about 100k more expensive than unis like AIMST, UCSI, UniKL RCMP, Mahsa, and UTAR. I mean why the need for such high cost? Is it cause of the facilities and equipments there are really good?

And another thing i want to enquire, the website for IMU says that the MBBS fees is 351k for the 5+0 programme right, but I'm sure there will be other additional fees not mention. Any IMU students in this forum? If you dun mind can let me know the TOTAL cost fees for the MBBS @ IMU so that I may 'prepare' myself before applying for it? hehe.. thanks lotz

it's cheaper than monash msia, which is 400k.......

there is little extra you need to pay.........

of course, your living expenses are not included.............

Hey, honestly, it's not torture at all. You'll definitely get VERY messy and dirty in the outdoor activities and it can be a little tiring but honestly at the end of the day it's really fun. If you stick with it it's a great chance to meet your seniors and start off life in uni with knowing a whole group of people from your batch. I honestly really enjoyed my 2 weeks of orientation when I joined in 2008.

Having said that, if you ever find that things are going a little too far, you can always opt to not join in on any of the games, none of the seniors have any power to force you to do something you don't want. Also, the orientation committee is easily contactable and they'll definitely be stressing the whole 'no-ragging' policy on your first briefing.

If you're looking for me, just ask anyone from the orientation committee that you're looking for "Aku". Most of them should know who I am. I'm not in the committee myself but I was for the previous orientation =)

how long will the orientation be for this intake?? and will we have classes during orientation?? and why i can't find any stalls selling foods in vista b?? omg!!!

The orientation will be 2 weeks long. There will be PPD sessions (some personal development thing).

that part is wrong

Bolded part is very misleading. Its a complete local degree, with no foreign Uni's name on it... 5+0 is only used when one is doing the degree locally but get a ful foreign degree(MONASH).

hey thanks for the clarification. my bad. yea "5+0" actually are meant to refer to unis which are having partnership with other foreign unis. wat i wanted to phrase was the 5 years local programme at IMU. thousand apologies

hey guys. i am going in IMU for february intake, medicine. Ermm, i am under jpa so i was sent there.. i don't know much about the uni. people just told me the orientation week is very evil. and i'm pretty much nervous about it. can i skip just skip it?

and how is the classes there? is the lecturers all ok? Thanks.

the orientation week (usually actually 2 weeks) could be the best time of your stay in imu.........

really? no notorious ragging?

hi im ur senior then haha~ basically orientation ROCKS! tiring but really fun...dun skip it pls.

lecture just 2 hours per day...so u need a lot of self study...but for me, i personally think 2 hours is really sufficient as I prefer to study on my own...and we got stuffs like problem based learning, medical museum session and some lab practical as well...most of the lecturers are good, just wait till u come to imu then i think seniors will tell u more about the lecturer...

Sounds like a sem 1 or 2 student... Wait until you do electives and see what india med school students are capable of.


On another note, I dont like orientation, so I basically skipped half of it. Its OK to skip, just give them some reason for your absences, after a few days they will get the message.

hello. you mean imu students are weak in terms of skills?

For phase 1, yes... Phase 2 should be on par with them, cant say much coz I haven't start my phase 2 yet.
India students memorise lots more stuff than us, I'm not sure whether its useful, but knowing more is better right??

ya. knowing more is better. btw, anyone who is accepted in february intake, please pm me. i'm looking for housemates as imu hostel is fully booked.

anywhere u study, u will have to memorize alot. its the course

hey. i have been accepted to imu where i am studying med.

but i am not sure if i should do graduate or undergraduate course. I know that grad has to do 1yr extra of medical science

what is medical science and would it be better if i choose graduate course?
how many students does aus national Uni and uni of queensland accept from IMU students ?

pls reply asap as i need pay by 15th =(

Hello Slimmy, which course did you choose eventually?
Graduate or undergraduate?

hi~

This post has been edited by yktse: May 16 2011, 12:06 PM

Hi~

station 6 : tetanus toxoid IM injection
Demonstrate
1. proper handwashing technique
2. preparation of the patient
3. precautions during administration


embarassingly, only imu students will
forget to check the patient's id on the perscription with the patient's name tag
mistakenly glove before opening the syringe and needle in the kidney dish.
give the injection to the arm with the fistula

hundreds of needles and syringe wasted just like that. if they did it right it's a diff story.

oh sounds interesting~~

Sources? =.=

They sound like personal experience to me

my point is, wonder no more, @imamaxis. look at the students not the uni (or the marketing prowess of the uni for that matter). if they are well-versed with procedures from early on, then only the uni is worth mentioning. what use is a medstudent without clinical skills i haven't the slightest

So am I correct to say tat if i wish to specialise after getting a IMU(LOCAL)-MBBS my best bet is USA
since US is highly meritocratic when it comes to qualification for medicine??

This post has been edited by mirandaklum: Oct 15 2011, 10:14 PM