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daddoo
post Mar 8 2010, 05:52 PM

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Qiw, you were not buying RTF for your king 2? How come your Tx/Rx, batt not included one?
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post Mar 8 2010, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 8 2010, 05:52 PM)
Qiw, you were not buying RTF for your king 2? How come your Tx/Rx, batt not included one?
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Sometimes can buy kit 1~~ or get a RTF and change to your own better Rx, TX... icon_rolleyes.gif
Last time i also bought a Belt CP kit (or so called "crash kit") for RM170..
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post Mar 8 2010, 06:38 PM

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hmmmmm, let's say RM1xx offer (I just guess) then if I buy Tx/Rx + batt, almost a new RTF already ...... but there's advantage from Qiw where you get some spare parts from him ......

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post Mar 8 2010, 08:41 PM

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Lol, I have no idea how much to offer. I also don't know where to buy the Rx/Tx. laugh.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 8 2010, 08:41 PM)
Lol, I have no idea how much to offer. I also don't know where to buy the Rx/Tx. laugh.gif
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About the Rx/TX... LHS got offer wide range of variety~ icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 10:23 PM

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Where is LHS?
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post Mar 9 2010, 04:19 AM

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ok ... let me set some things straight
i got this heli as an exchange with another of my heli
if u checked the stuff on this heli (all the upgrades and parts) without even considering the price of the radio and receiver .. the value is worth well over 1k .. brand new la of coz ... but i am only looking for a fraction of that value for this king2

basic kits comes without electronics .. u will have to buy servos gyro motor ESC .. that one alone will set u back around rm200 easily

am only asking for rm400 for the whole set up in those pics .. tongue.gif
will demo fly for u if u wanna buy .. just some normal FF laa .. no 3D coz i BEGINNER only .. hahahahaha


Added on March 9, 2010, 4:20 amLHS = local hobby shop
OHS = online hobby shop

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cliffang83
post Mar 10 2010, 09:32 AM

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No body interested in QiW king?
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post Mar 10 2010, 10:56 AM

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its ok one .. slow slow sell
this place actually not for selling stuff .. should post in classifieds but luckily moderator never **** me .. hehehehe
main reason i selling coz got emotional detachment with this heli already due to recent events .. so cheap cheap oso will prolly sell off .. hahahaha
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post Mar 10 2010, 12:48 PM

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Hehehe, for me I am not interested to buy because still new to this hobby and lazy to get Tx/Rx and batt separately.

Plan to get a RTF set and have my hands on it first. I am so frustrated and miserable for just able to watch youtube everyday to see people playing their heli. Imagine if you have a naked girl in front of you but you are not allowed to have contact with any parts, it would be suffer unless something wrong with the guy ..... tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2010, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 10 2010, 12:48 PM)
Hehehe, for me I am not interested to buy because still new to this hobby and lazy to get Tx/Rx and batt separately.

Plan to get a RTF set and have my hands on it first. I am so frustrated and miserable for just able to watch youtube everyday to see people playing their heli. Imagine if you have a naked girl in front of you but you are not allowed to have contact with any parts, it would be suffer unless something wrong with the guy ..... tongue.gif
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Wow... what an example you give~~ laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 10 2010, 02:31 PM

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hmmm ... naked girl in front but ......
just offer a price to the girl la .. hahahahahaa

anyways ... just a piece of advice ... stock radios are not ez to fly but not impossible .. a good radio will allow u to adjust flying to suit your style
i am saying this not becoz i wanna sell my stuff ok ... hahahahaa
just an opinion .. tongue.gif

and if u looking at belt CP RTF kit ... yes ... value for $$$
u can ask cliffang coz he has a belt CP .. hehehehe
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post Mar 10 2010, 02:31 PM

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wahahahahah, that's the closest match I can think only ...... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 10 2010, 02:31 PM)
hmmm ... naked girl in front but ......
just offer a price to the girl la .. hahahahahaa

anyways ... just a piece of advice ... stock radios are not ez to fly but not impossible .. a good radio will allow u to adjust flying to suit your style
i am saying this not becoz i wanna sell my stuff ok ... hahahahaa
just an opinion .. tongue.gif

and if u looking at belt CP RTF kit ... yes ... value for $$$
u can ask cliffang coz he has a belt CP .. hehehehe
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Thanks for your advice, greatly appreciated. I guess I will get some training kit to play first.

I think cliffang gave me some opinion with the first version, I guess I am getting the V2. I have the same opinion as you because this 450 size heli is not expensive so eventhough I whack or crash it kow kow, i wont feeling that pain also ....

Some of them from the forum recommend this to the beginner as they can learn a lot with this heli .... hopefully lah ....



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post Mar 10 2010, 02:52 PM

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Basically BCP v1 / V2 are almost the same... they just change little bit of outlook, RX/TX + brushless + gyro + swash plate... and claim it as new version....

I think King 3 will fly better than BCP V2... Smaller in size and most components same as BCP...

Anyway, don't drop the ESKY tx... they are less functioning, quite expensive (compare to RTF), and most important fragile... if you somehow got a chance to hold on a better branded TX (Specktrum/JR/Futaba)... you'll know why i said ESKY TX is fragile~ And i can say Walkera TX feels better than ESKY...

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post Mar 10 2010, 04:47 PM

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belt CP suffers coz of the INDIRECT linkages ..
most have to DIY mod direct linkages for it to fly well
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post Mar 10 2010, 05:30 PM

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Not flying well means not stable in hovering?

One thing I like this heli is because the oversea forums have a lot of information about this ....


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post Mar 10 2010, 06:20 PM

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I mod a BCP to direct linkage too... it got improved... yet there's still some glitch due to the plastic swash plate + the oval linkages.... those plastic parts will tend to bended when rotor head is turning...

It's like putting a 17" rim to a kancil and expect it to be controlable on highway...

A lot of neg(-) expo needed for the BCP to make it controlable...


I can hover my 450 in the house... but i can't hover the BCP in opened area...

It is all due to... the rotor head is designed for 300 class heli (King2/3) so with longer main blades = more force will occurs causing the plastic parts to bend... if upgrade the head to CNC... it will cost more than the heli itself... so not worth it...

Conslusion... i'll say better to get a King2/3 than BCP....

I'm kinda risk taker... and i spool the BCP up while holding it... and saw the weakness of the main rotor head itself... the tail sucks too... can see the plastic bending all the way too...

My opinion: i think there's some story behind that makes the RTF BCP v2 have to sell at RM400++


Sorry ar... when come to BCP i got so many negative point of view....
Anyway... if you are going into BCP v2... do let us know how it fly ya...
PS: BCP plastic main frame is better than CF main frame...


Emmm... i'm thinking of changing the Xeon FP to Xeon CP (BCP head)~ icon_idea.gif

This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 10 2010, 06:22 PM
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post Mar 10 2010, 08:31 PM

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Honestly, I have expected the weaknesses. With the same 450 size, Align is selling around RM1.4k with only the helicopter but BCP V2 is around RM600 with RTF.

For sure there will be some trade off with the difference in price. These companies are not selling heli for charity mah, they also need to make $$$ biggrin.gif

Nvm, I like to hear your opinion, don't feel sorry about this .....

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post Mar 10 2010, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 10 2010, 08:31 PM)
Honestly, I have expected the weaknesses. With the same 450 size, Align is selling around RM1.4k with only the helicopter but BCP V2 is around RM600 with RTF.

For sure there will be some trade off with the difference in price. These companies are not selling heli for charity mah, they also need to make $$$ biggrin.gif

Nvm, I like to hear your opinion, don't feel sorry about this .....
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That's true... what you pay is what you get... I just think that for the best value... RTF King3 will be better than RTF BCP v2....

But frankly... BCP have more parts support in M'sia than the HPK3~

So as long as you enjoy it... it fits it's purpose....

Just my 2 cents... King 3 would be a better choice over BCP v2... thumbup.gif
I got 2 BCP collecting dust right now.... so maybe i can use the head part to mod my XEON... but that would be the next project after 4G6.. rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 10 2010, 09:37 PM

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xeon main shaft is 3mm .. BCP main shaft is 5mm ??
that one is main problem already .. and u will need the servo mount adapters for 3 servos CCPM
if u solve those 2 problems above then u will get XEON CP .. hehehehe

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