QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jan 12 2014, 05:37 PM)
I see, Dentistry. You don't want to consider Engineering?So, right now you're at A-level/STPM or diploma?
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Jan 12 2014, 05:46 PM
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Jan 12 2014, 05:49 PM
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Hahaha, I find that a couple of years of engineering school makes you a lot more humble, when you're getting your butt kicked by subjects, and have to start working with people to survive.
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Jan 12 2014, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 12 2014, 01:46 PM) I see, Dentistry. You don't want to consider Engineering? I prefer treating patients and created more confidence with their smiles So, right now you're at A-level/STPM or diploma? Currently I'll do foundation in science at Mahsa. Parents say better straight go foundation because I already know what I want to do. |
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Jan 12 2014, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(p3nguin @ Jan 12 2014, 01:49 PM) Hahaha, I find that a couple of years of engineering school makes you a lot more humble, when you're getting your butt kicked by subjects, and have to start working with people to survive. I believe that's true. The most effective way to learn to be humble is being served some humble pies by the seniors or someone who is more capable but yet polite. |
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Jan 12 2014, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(p3nguin @ Jan 12 2014, 05:49 PM) Hahaha, I find that a couple of years of engineering school makes you a lot more humble, when you're getting your butt kicked by subjects, and have to start working with people to survive. Indeed. Since, we fails and fails again in the Engineering.You will see a class failing a test. Then everyone in the class re-sit the test again and again. Failing a test is a routine in engineering. We only want to survive. I do think other critical courses student also humble as well. e.g medic, accounting etc But some still arrogant.. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 12 2014, 01:56 PM) Indeed. Since, we fails and fails again in the Engineering. I think that it's mostly how the child is brought up and also the community around him examples are friends.You will see a class failing a test. Then everyone in the class re-sit the test again and again. Failing a test is a routine in engineering. We only want to survive. I do think other critical courses student also humble as well. e.g medic, accounting etc But some still arrogant.. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jan 12 2014, 05:51 PM) I believe that's true. The most effective way to learn to be humble is being served some humble pies by the seniors or someone who is more capable but yet polite. Last time when I get my first job as engineer, all my senior colleagues teach most of their life learnt useful tips to me.6 seniors average >35 years old. Some of the things, they trial and errors life experience for few years then teach me. I feel very touched. Most of the things irrelevant to the work. Something like what they learn after working for so long. They teach me so I don't walk the same path as them. Most of the things, they are not willing to teach outsiders or friends. If they feel you are good, then they will teach. So, I learnt a lot during my job as engineer. Being humble can get you more knowledge where you not able to access it in other places. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 12 2014, 02:06 PM) Last time when I get my first job as engineer, all my senior colleagues teach most of their life learnt useful tips to me. Wow your seniors were really kind to the juniors! Mind if I ask how long have you been in the engineering field?6 seniors average >35 years old. Some of the things, they trial and errors life experience for few years then teach me. I feel very touched. Most of the things irrelevant to the work. Something like what they learn after working for so long. They teach me so I don't walk the same path as them. Most of the things, they are not willing to teach outsiders or friends. If they feel you are good, then they will teach. So, I learnt a lot during my job as engineer. Being humble can get you more knowledge where you not able to access it in other places. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jan 12 2014, 06:09 PM) Wow your seniors were really kind to the juniors! Mind if I ask how long have you been in the engineering field? If you mean working experience then is only 1 year. "When you find yourself in a hole stop digging" - This is 1 of my senior advice. When the hole is too deep, then you can't get out. Get out and find your dream. Not necessary everyone passion is work for others. So, in our community, always people complaining their salary, job low pay, not satisfy etc. "Expectation always leads to disappointment." Company really not able to do anything, even you get highest performance, you won't satisfy with the increment. Why don't they get out and build their dream? Just forget about the engineering degree you have, forget about those oversea cert (MIT, berkeley), bunch of professional cert. Just start anew. If you get out start a chicken rice stall, it have brighter future too. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 12 2014, 02:20 PM) If you mean working experience then is only 1 year. Yeah true and I believe any career will be rewarding if the person enjoy doing it and do his/her best. Passion, effort and consistency are important and coherent each other "When you find yourself in a hole stop digging" - This is 1 of my senior advice. When the hole is too deep, then you can't get out. Get out and find your dream. Not necessary everyone passion is work for others. So, in our community, always people complaining their salary, job low pay, not satisfy etc. "Expectation always leads to disappointment." Company really not able to do anything, even you get highest performance, you won't satisfy with the increment. Why don't they get out and build their dream? Just forget about the engineering degree you have, forget about those oversea cert (MIT, berkeley), bunch of professional cert. Just start anew. If you get out start a chicken rice stall, it have brighter future too. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jan 12 2014, 06:23 PM) Yeah true and I believe any career will be rewarding if the person enjoy doing it and do his/her best. Passion, effort and consistency are important and coherent each other True.. Don't forget attitude. Now my engineering degree become toilet paper. btw, engineering is a good course to study. Still a great experience, can met a lot of great people in engineering. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 12 2014, 02:27 PM) True.. Don't forget attitude. Hhahahhaha toilet paper means? People won't look at it anymore? XDNow my engineering degree become toilet paper. btw, engineering is a good course to study. Still a great experience, can met a lot of great people in engineering. |
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Jan 12 2014, 06:38 PM
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Jan 12 2014, 07:15 PM
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Jan 12 2014, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jan 12 2014, 07:15 PM) Yup, depends on experience afterwards. Toilet paper is the entrance ticket for fresh grad.Just like SPM/STPM/A-level is a entrance ticket for Uni. So, if you have the higher level toilet papers, your low level become useless. I don't even go collect my STPM cert. Currently, your UPSR and PMR and SPM got any use? I'm no longer in engineering anymore, so wasted my toilet papers too. |
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Jan 12 2014, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 12 2014, 03:34 PM) Yup, depends on experience afterwards. Toilet paper is the entrance ticket for fresh grad. Nope all useless except SPM cert which is I'm waiting to get! Just like SPM/STPM/A-level is a entrance ticket for Uni. So, if you have the higher level toilet papers, your low level become useless. I don't even go collect my STPM cert. Currently, your UPSR and PMR and SPM got any use? I'm no longer in engineering anymore, so wasted my toilet papers too. Why? Which field are you in now?? |
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Jan 12 2014, 11:43 PM
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Jan 13 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jan 13 2014, 11:03 AM) E-commerce - business of buying and selling things online. (business)Apps/iOS developer - Apple apps developer, coding and making apps (Computer Science) It's very hard to find a job that you wanted. So, I work my own which the field I enjoy, so, in the future can create more job opportunities for others. I believed everyone can become entrepreneur. I'm not success yet, just starting |
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 13 2014, 07:24 AM) E-commerce - business of buying and selling things online. (business) Ohhhh i see. Good luck bro and be successful one day! Apps/iOS developer - Apple apps developer, coding and making apps (Computer Science) It's very hard to find a job that you wanted. So, I work my own which the field I enjoy, so, in the future can create more job opportunities for others. I believed everyone can become entrepreneur. I'm not success yet, just starting |
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