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post Jul 22 2010, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Jul 22 2010, 11:29 AM)
The return is much better than EPF interest and exceeded my expected earning in interest. So, I'm thinking to park them somewhere to prevent my earning drops and thinking to switch them to these 2 funds again when the price drop in future. My question is Which Fund has less risk and allowed me to switch fund from EPF investment? Bond or money etc? Any idea?

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Bond funds have the least correlation to the equity market. They usually hold their value even if there is a market crash. But please be aware that bond funds, have relatively lower earnings, and have some risks. If you park your money in bond funds, and equity market rise, you will lose out the gains. For money market funds, it is not worth it as the earnings will be lower than FD, but the risk is the smallest.

Check out PBFI, good stable average yield of 6%-7% over the past 5 years, even with interest rate raise, and holds AAA or AA class bonds.

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post Jul 22 2010, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Jul 22 2010, 11:29 AM)
Hi, I need some advices for my case:

I used my EPF to invest these 2 funds:

PISTF: Invested in 3/Apr/08, as at 21/7/10, earned 25.45% in 2 years+
PISSF: Invested in 1/Aug/08, as at 21/7/10, earned 32.96% in almost 2 years

The return is much better than EPF interest and exceeded my expected earning in interest. So, I'm thinking to park them somewhere to prevent my earning drops and thinking to switch them to these 2 funds again when the price drop in future. My question is Which Fund has less risk and allowed me to switch fund from EPF investment? Bond or money etc? Any idea?

I just applied online account & waiting them to send me the password, thinking to switch the fund myself online coz my agent friend is very sick now, just dun want to trouble her.

Any advise for me? Thanks.
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Your timing of entry is good, which enable you to register good profit.

But frankly speaking, if invested during second half of 2008, a profit of 30% is not something very impressive return. (because the bottom form during 2008, and the market rapid recovery during 2009 until now, is something may happen once in a decade or may be longer period or so, which is not usual)
Anyway, there is no such thing of bad profit.

Money market is carrying lesser risk among them, but money market fund return won't exceed the EPF payout dividend rate in general, the most is on par with interest rate only, which stood at 2.75% currently.
Bond fund at current scenario, won't exceed more than 4-5% as well.


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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 22 2010, 11:39 AM)
Check out PBFI, good stable average yield of 6%-7% over the past 5 years, even with interest rate raise, and holds AAA or AA class bonds.
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Both bond funds are good, PBFI and PBIBF, both bond funds recorded 9-11% return p.a. for the last 1 year. I have read an investment book, in long run, say 10 years time, Equity fund may not always wins Bond fund. Bond fund return could be slow but steady...
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 22 2010, 11:45 AM)
Your timing of entry is good, which enable you to register good profit.

But frankly speaking, if invested during second half of 2008, a profit of 30% is not something very impressive return. (because the bottom form during 2008, and the market rapid recovery during 2009 until now, is something may happen once in a decade or may be longer period or so, which is not usual)
Anyway, there is no such thing of bad profit.

Money market is carrying lesser risk among them, but money market fund return won't exceed the EPF payout dividend rate in general, the most is on par with interest rate only, which stood at 2.75% currently.
Bond fund at current scenario, won't exceed more than 4-5% as well.
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ya, timing for investment is important and I am a bit lucky to enter at lower price, and make a bit now. So, no point to park in money fund coz lower than EPF interest. If Bond Fund have 4-5% / year is ok for me coz I'm not thinking to sell the funds now coz the money will go to my EPF acct and when I want to invest again, I need to pay the 5% process fees. Now since I've achieve my target profit, if Bond Fund can get similar interest like EPF, it's ok for me coz I can switch them to Equity Fund when the price is low coz the price will never remain at high price forever.


Added on July 22, 2010, 8:32 pm
QUOTE(gark @ Jul 22 2010, 11:39 AM)
Bond funds have the least correlation to the equity market. They usually hold their value even if there is a market crash. But please be aware that bond funds, have relatively lower earnings, and have some risks. If you park your money in bond funds, and equity market rise, you will lose out the gains. For money market funds, it is not worth it as the earnings will be lower than FD, but the risk is the smallest.

Check out PBFI, good stable average yield of 6%-7% over the past 5 years, even with interest rate raise, and holds AAA or AA class bonds.
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OK, will consider it, thanks notworthy.gif


Added on July 22, 2010, 8:34 pm
QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jul 22 2010, 01:23 PM)
Both bond funds are good, PBFI and PBIBF, both bond funds recorded 9-11% return p.a. for the last 1 year. I have read an investment book, in long run, say 10 years time, Equity fund may not always wins Bond fund. Bond fund return could be slow but steady...
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ya, looks like I shld "park" my EPF money in these 2 funds coz I am waiting the time to reinvest while waiting the equity fund price drop. Thanks so much notworthy.gif

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post Jul 24 2010, 02:39 PM

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Dear Unitholder, We are pleased to attach the market wrap and bond market review for the week/fortnight ended 16 July 2010 for your information. Regards Customer Service e-mail proclaimer This e-mail and any attachment is intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain information that is legally privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or our hotline 036207 5000 and delete the document. This communication has not been transmitted via a private or secure link or in encrypted form and is therefore subject to the usual hazards of Internet communications, nor can it be guaranteed that this communication has not been the subject of unauthorised interception or modification.
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post Jul 25 2010, 03:10 PM

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yeahh.... 2009 was indeed a good year for unit trust returns.

mars1069,

since you're on the public series.. it's not "compatible" with PBFI (pb series). as you can't do a switch between these series.

for local content bond, PIBOND is superb but unfortunately they closed the fund jorh..

PBOND has a foreign element in it and because of it, the fluctuation(beta/risk) is higher.. since i don't know what "foreign papers" are in there, i choose to avoid it..

only if you spot an impending crash.. then only switch to a money market fund as a last resort (since it's easy to create a new account and switch immediately via pm online.. so, you don't have to pre-open a money market fund as standby)..

or if you are facing an imminent upward surge of interest rates (for this will kill both equity and bonds.. at some upward point, but will temporary benefit cash accounts).. but if interest rates remain high, it'll chock everything..




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post Jul 26 2010, 11:18 AM

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Winner mostly in 50/60's category...
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Jul 26 2010, 11:18 AM)
Winner mostly in 50/60's category...
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maybe because youngsters today are too preoccupied with gadgets/cars/luxuries/vacations/fashions
and probably place "investment" on the lowest priority (spending as the higher priority) smile.gif
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post Jul 26 2010, 02:59 PM

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LOL.. not that bad. Sometimes it's luck that they youngers was not selected tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2010, 09:09 PM

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How to participate in the competition?
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post Jul 26 2010, 09:12 PM

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How to participate in the competition?
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have at least 20,000 MGQP points (or RM20,000 investment), automatic join for draw. tongue.gif

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post Jul 26 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Jul 26 2010, 11:18 AM)
Winner mostly in 50/60's category...
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Well...these uncles can affford to invest more. Surely MGQP will be higher = higher chance tongue.gif
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Any idea on DRs this month?
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post Aug 2 2010, 10:36 AM

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Public Mutual declares over RM184 million income distributions for its investor

Fund | Unit Split | Gross Distribution (sen per unit)
Public Growth Fund | - | 5.00
Public Islamic Opportunities Fund | - | 2.50
Public Islamic Select Enterprises Fund | - | 1.25
Public Far-East Property & Resorts Fund | - | 0.50
Public Bond Fund | - | 5.00
Public Islamic Select Bond Fund | 1:50 | 5.00
Public Islamic Income Fund | 1:25 | 3.50
PBB MTN Fund 1 | - | 2.00

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?n...rls_100802_1026
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Jul 22 2010, 11:29 AM)
Hi, I need some advices for my case:

I used my EPF to invest these 2 funds:

PISTF: Invested in 3/Apr/08, as at 21/7/10, earned 25.45% in 2 years+
PISSF: Invested in 1/Aug/08, as at 21/7/10, earned 32.96% in almost 2 years

The return is much better than EPF interest and exceeded my expected earning in interest. So, I'm thinking to park them somewhere to prevent my earning drops and thinking to switch them to these 2 funds again when the price drop in future. My question is Which Fund has less risk and allowed me to switch fund from EPF investment? Bond or money etc? Any idea?

I just applied online account & waiting them to send me the password, thinking to switch the fund myself online coz my agent friend is very sick now, just dun want to trouble her.

Any advise for me? Thanks.
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For EPF...if you look to preserve the profit...these are the possible funds:

1) Public Islamic Income Fund
2) Public Select Bond Fund

Money Market Fund return is not so good in terms of profit preservation. Better use it as temporary 'parking' fund
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post Aug 2 2010, 10:45 PM

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Found a nice article from PM website. Not sure if somebody has shared this or read it:

Review of China and Australia Markets Performance
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Page 1: Review of the China Equity Market
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Page 2: Review of the Australian Stock Market
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URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?n...00707_1100_pg00

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post Aug 15 2010, 09:04 AM

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Heard there will be a new fund launching from my agent...
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post Aug 15 2010, 11:49 AM

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Dear Unitholder, We are pleased to attach the market wrap for the week ended 6 August 2010 for your information. Regards Customer Service e-mail proclaimer This e-mail and any attachment is intended for the addressee(s) only and may contain information that is legally privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or our hotline 036207 5000 and delete the document. This communication has not been transmitted via a private or secure link or in encrypted form and is therefore subject to the usual hazards of Internet communications, nor can it be guaranteed that this communication has not been the subject of unauthorised interception or modification.
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Closure of Public Money Market Fund to Investment under Employees Provident Fund Members Investment Scheme (EPF-MIS)

We wish to inform that Public Money Market Fund (PMMF) will be closed to investment from the EPF-MIS with effect from 23 August 2010.

As such, investors may consider switching into Public Islamic Money Market Fund (PIMMF) for investment under the EPF-MIS. The investment objective of PIMMF is to provide liquidity and current income while maintaining capital stability through investing in Shariah-based deposit, short-term Islamic money market instruments and short dated sukuk.

Please contact our Customer Service Hotline at 03-6207 5000 if you have further queries regarding the above matter.

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?n...uncement_130810

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