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mars1069
post Apr 4 2010, 10:39 PM

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I used EPF to invest these 2 funds: PISTF and PISSF. Now is earning 21% & 26% respectively since I bought in Aug 2008, thinking to switch and park at other lower risk funds or bond, not to sell first to save the admin fee if want to invest again, any suggestion?

Shld I still keep this 2 funds or switch to other funds coz afraid the prices drop. The price will go further or now is the high side? Sorry coz didn't know their past performance. Thanks.
mars1069
post Apr 7 2010, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(imax80 @ Apr 6 2010, 03:44 PM)
how long you had been investing in these funds? on what indicitor you use as a base to switch your funds to lower risk funds or bond? the KL composite index?

how you forecast the prices will drop in the future..based on FA or TA.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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invested since August 2008, around 1 year + now. Since making much more than my EPF (I used EPF to invest), so thinking to park at Public Bond fund, lower risk compare to these 2 funds. When the price keep going high, it will fall later but depends on share market coz share market is doing well, so thinking to quit first and wait until mkt drops again then go in again...Any suggestion? sweat.gif
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Apr 7 2010, 08:41 AM)
Public Islamic Sector Select Fund which is now 0.2645 but dividend declared not that great.
Public Islamic Select Treasures Fund,now at 0.2903...price have risen sharply but no dividend declared so far.
I also using EPF to buy mutual fund and i did a a lot of switching,
claiming dividend so far on Public Index Fund at 5 cent/unit and Public Regular Saving Fund at 4.5 cent/unit

I intend to switch to Public Islamic Equity Fund and expect the dividend to be around 2 cent region expected end May.

Comparison:
Public Islamic Equity Fund now at 0.3271
Public Islamic Select Treasures Fund now at 0.2903

PIEF last year dividend declared is 1.75 cent/unit where PISTF no dividend yet.

i expected based on current market PIEF by end May might declared 2 cent region.
and maybe PISTF will declared it's first maiden dividend by end May also.
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Added on April 7, 2010, 8:44 am

If EPF investment,you can't park at Public Bond Fund.

IF parking for epf invesment,you can park
Public Select Bond Fund or Public Islamic Income Fund.
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ya I forgot EPF money have limited choices...looks like I shld wait for them to declare dividen smile.gif thanks notworthy.gif
mars1069
post Jul 22 2010, 11:29 AM

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Hi, I need some advices for my case:

I used my EPF to invest these 2 funds:

PISTF: Invested in 3/Apr/08, as at 21/7/10, earned 25.45% in 2 years+
PISSF: Invested in 1/Aug/08, as at 21/7/10, earned 32.96% in almost 2 years

The return is much better than EPF interest and exceeded my expected earning in interest. So, I'm thinking to park them somewhere to prevent my earning drops and thinking to switch them to these 2 funds again when the price drop in future. My question is Which Fund has less risk and allowed me to switch fund from EPF investment? Bond or money etc? Any idea?

I just applied online account & waiting them to send me the password, thinking to switch the fund myself online coz my agent friend is very sick now, just dun want to trouble her.

Any advise for me? Thanks.
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post Jul 22 2010, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 22 2010, 11:45 AM)
Your timing of entry is good, which enable you to register good profit.

But frankly speaking, if invested during second half of 2008, a profit of 30% is not something very impressive return. (because the bottom form during 2008, and the market rapid recovery during 2009 until now, is something may happen once in a decade or may be longer period or so, which is not usual)
Anyway, there is no such thing of bad profit.

Money market is carrying lesser risk among them, but money market fund return won't exceed the EPF payout dividend rate in general, the most is on par with interest rate only, which stood at 2.75% currently.
Bond fund at current scenario, won't exceed more than 4-5% as well.
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ya, timing for investment is important and I am a bit lucky to enter at lower price, and make a bit now. So, no point to park in money fund coz lower than EPF interest. If Bond Fund have 4-5% / year is ok for me coz I'm not thinking to sell the funds now coz the money will go to my EPF acct and when I want to invest again, I need to pay the 5% process fees. Now since I've achieve my target profit, if Bond Fund can get similar interest like EPF, it's ok for me coz I can switch them to Equity Fund when the price is low coz the price will never remain at high price forever.


Added on July 22, 2010, 8:32 pm
QUOTE(gark @ Jul 22 2010, 11:39 AM)
Bond funds have the least correlation to the equity market. They usually hold their value even if there is a market crash. But please be aware that bond funds, have relatively lower earnings, and have some risks. If you park your money in bond funds, and equity market rise, you will lose out the gains. For money market funds, it is not worth it as the earnings will be lower than FD, but the risk is the smallest.

Check out PBFI, good stable average yield of 6%-7% over the past 5 years, even with interest rate raise, and holds AAA or AA class bonds.
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OK, will consider it, thanks notworthy.gif


Added on July 22, 2010, 8:34 pm
QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jul 22 2010, 01:23 PM)
Both bond funds are good, PBFI and PBIBF, both bond funds recorded 9-11% return p.a. for the last 1 year. I have read an investment book, in long run, say 10 years time, Equity fund may not always wins Bond fund. Bond fund return could be slow but steady...
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ya, looks like I shld "park" my EPF money in these 2 funds coz I am waiting the time to reinvest while waiting the equity fund price drop. Thanks so much notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by mars1069: Jul 22 2010, 08:34 PM

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