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Bonescythe
post Jun 10 2011, 11:14 PM

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As investor, it is always important to keep some updates on the world economy, and do not invest blindly, or follow completely to consultant. Unless your consultant is good, and gives update during different market sentimental.

If I would to recommend, I will recommend PEF, or PIF as it will be easy to monitor. Local newspaper will be reporting on the local business news.
Most of the Mutual Fund objective is to outperform the KLCI, and they use the KLCI index as a benchmark.

During the 2008 crisis, a lot of mutual fund drop, and some even drop more than 50% and had not recovered since. But some investor in stock market, also burn more than 50% of their capital, and went into insolvency. Pity those who uses loan to finance investment at that time.


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post Jun 11 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Next Generation @ Jun 11 2011, 12:10 PM)
not all consultant is good and give update to all thier client.. how about if they hav 400 clients... is it rationable for consultant giv update to all thier clients? cool2.gif
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A good consultant will give.
At least email notification of fund performance. Meet up personally half yearly basis..


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post Jun 12 2011, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Jun 11 2011, 11:13 PM)
my agent told me that P Ittikal will be closed for investment on 16 June?
Ask me to do standing instruction to keep money going in?

Any comment?
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Can consider them actually.
Everything comes with a risk of course. But since economy should be going to peak in the end of the year, am expecting most of the local region Mutual Fund to perform as well.

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post Jun 12 2011, 09:52 PM

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Each time.. When fund declare dividend, after dividend, it will drop based on how much dividend is being declared.

Example.

PEF is at 50 cents per unit.
Declare 10% dividend, or 5 cents per unit. for FYE 2011.
So, after the "X" date, the PEF unit will be priced at 0.45
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post Jun 13 2011, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 13 2011, 11:17 AM)
Public smallcap fund underperform lately. Smallcap indices rise, this fund falls. Sigh. So called the best fund under mid-cap category in malaysia.
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Goldman Sach Inc had previously upgraded Malaysian market, as Malaysian market is being eyed as the next good upcoming growth nation in SEA.

So when FF come back to Malaysian market, things will be better.

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post Jun 14 2011, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(semerah padi @ Jun 14 2011, 04:28 PM)
which one fund better to invest?
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1.) What kind of risk taker are you?

2.) What is your objective by investing? Pay loan? Buy House? Buy car?
If you are for paying loan, maybe you can opt to take up some performing bonds, so that after a period of time, you can pay back one big lump of money. Bond are rather conservative and save, less risk exposed compared to equity linked fund. So your money invested will be exposed to lesser risk, and you will still be able to pay up those loan from the bond fund that you had invested in case when the market turnaround, as the prices are more stagnant, and less volatile.

If you are for buying cars, house.. Maybe you can opt to go for some moderate to aggressive risk's fund. As house and car is for future plan, you would hope to use a tool that can help you to grow your money more so that you can get your dream house or dream car with a habitual saving plan. The reason i suggest/promote equity linked is because buying a new house/car is not so top a priority if compare to loan. Loan is an obligation to repay, therefore, the tools being used should not put you into more trouble, which is capital loss.

3.) What kind of investor are you? short, medium or long term? Here in mutual fund, we are talking at least 3 years investment to be able to see result.

4.) Are you a one time off investor? Or you will invest consistently (Allocating money each month for investment)?
If you are a one time off with big amount of money (More than 10k), probably you would like to diversified into a few other fund to reduce risk. And get updated with the market condition from time to time, so you can know when is the good time to switch, exit, enter again.

For standing instruction (monthly basis), just invest.. probably some switching in between when market is down, or just continue to get more unit to maximize the ringgit cost averaging. Market down, cost per unit cheaper, so can get more unit with the same amount of investment. Market up, unit cost more expensive.

Anyhow, above is just a simple assessment to understand your own, and to select a correct investment vehicle according to your character, and ability to tolerate on the risk.
Remember, if you do not feel comfortable investing, don't invest at all. Invest only if you are comfortable to do so.

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post Jun 14 2011, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(XboX720 @ Jun 14 2011, 09:24 AM)
Wonder if anyone knows is there a cost and limit to switch one fund to another?
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Depends.. If you switch within 3 months after purchasing the fund, fees will be higher.

If you switch after 3 months, switching to Money Market fund will be free, but switching back to other fund from money market fund will have some minor charges.

For more info, ask your consultant about it
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post Jun 15 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 15 2011, 09:04 PM)
Please supply a link, or any other source of official PM information which states this 3-month/higher-fees condition.
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I don't think there are any links from the official PM website.

Well, actually I cannot say that within 3 month, switching will be more expensive either.. My bad. Because it depends on where do you switch to, and the value of the switching.

My initial reply was based on value more than 10k. That is why I say more expensive if you switch within 3 month.
After 3 months, most switching fee are fixed or free if go to money market fund.

Minimum switching is 1000 unit per switch.

PIN Bond minimum will need 1million unit as minimum switching quota.

Within 90 days

Recipient Fund -----------Equity/Balanced---------Bond/Fixed Income------------M.Market
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Switch out from

Equity/Balanced----------0.75%--------------------0.75%---------------------------0.75%

Bond (Loaded)------------0.25%-------------------0.25%----------------------------0.25%

Bond (Low Load)---------Up to 5.5%--------------0.25%----------------------------0.25%

M.Market (Loaded)-------RM50----------------------RM50----------------------------RM50

M.Market (Low Load)-----up to 5.5%--------------RM50-----------------------------RM50



After 90 days

Recipient Fund -----------Equity/Balanced---------Bond/Fixed Income------------M.Market
______________________________________________________________________

Switch out from

Equity/Balanced----------RM25---------------------RM25------------------------------Free

Bond (Loaded)------------RM25---------------------RM25------------------------------Free

Bond (Low Load)---------up to 5.5%---------------RM25------------------------------Free

M.Market (Loaded)-------RM25---------------------RM25-------------------------------Free

M.Market (Low Load)-----up to 5.5%---------------RM25------------------------------Free



Hope this helps a lot..

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post Jun 17 2011, 11:54 AM

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PEF is good.. smile.gif
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post Jun 17 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(ryan98 @ Jun 17 2011, 11:57 AM)
recently enter psmallcap . bleeding cry.gif
what should i do? should i cut losses?
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Pump.. Average it..Get more unit
KLSE expected to do great approaching year end..

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post Jun 17 2011, 02:14 PM

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PSmallCap.. Hold.. It will recover.. Don't sell them yet. It is volatile in SmallCap, but whenever he goes down, he know how to climb back up.

PEF, invest.. stage by stage. Sentiments are good.

PIF, pump.. This fund linked to KLCI performance. Year end forecast KLCI break 1600.

Now a lot of bank merge merge merge.. When bank merge, can hold KLCI or charge KLCI to another high level. Look at hongleong, from RM9 to RM13, contributing so much to KLCI.

Then, we got CIMB vs Maybank for RHB also. Sure another round for KLCI to hike.

Next up, we got Genting and all the related Genting brother and sister. Genting Singapore -> World 2nd largest casino.. I dunno how it will affect Genting singapore, but will definitely had an impact on Genting Bhd.
Forecasted Genting will go to RM15, that time KLCI sure hoh liau.

Next on.. CPO maintain above RM3,200.. So got plantation heavyweight like KLK, IOI, all help to charge.

If index go to 1650, PIF confirm doing good. That time sell them away if want to take profit. Look at how market perform that time.. Only decide. Maybe can go for bond fund if undecided.


Added on June 17, 2011, 2:20 pm
QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 17 2011, 12:31 PM)
how to pump? fund is closed. Are u an agent?
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Yea am agent.. Yea, is closed. My bad.. Sorry.


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post Jun 17 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 17 2011, 05:04 PM)
1. Pick an agent as yr upline, preferably one who can teach U + have the time to guide/help U until U are good on yr own.
2. Sign-up for CUTE exam - pay $
3. Study - sup sup water lar, trust me. U can walk out in 30 mins (minimum time needed to stay in the donkey computer room)
4. Go for exam
5. Pass & get yr credentials from FMUTM or something bwhahaha - sorry, i cant recall the new name
6. Tadaa

Yearly cost: $100+/-
PM's software/programs (optional): $90+/-

Guys, pls correct me where i'm mistaken - heheh, not much of a recruiter, more of DIY for my own + my family & friends' investment only  tongue.gif
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If you are active investor, for sendiri.. Can save a lot you know..
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post Jun 17 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(adreina @ Jun 17 2011, 05:10 PM)
To sign-up for the CUTE exam how much???
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RM150.
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post Jun 17 2011, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(adreina @ Jun 17 2011, 04:58 PM)
Might b a noob question, how to become an agent?
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Prepare 3 piece IC, 6 passport photo, your SPM cert, or Degree cert.. Either one. SPM, at least Grade 3, if lower, maybe go take SPM again.

Then Pay 100 (Registration for new agent) + 150 CUTE

Get your ammo (Bag + notes + all kind of notes + 2 master prospectus + other kind of stuffs, cannot remember)

Then, go exam.

Pass already.. Go invest and grab people and invest.. You are UTC, so you need to Con them, after that, insult them kao kao.. After this 2, then put out your shark mouth, dig as deep as possible to your client pocket, and ask him/her to invest..

Hahaha..
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post Jun 17 2011, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 17 2011, 05:28 PM)
Dont lar teach "kam sau" technic bro BoneScythe  laugh.gif
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Hahaha.. Opps..
I very ethical one, don't worry.
Con already, then insult, is helping client to realize the good thing..
If don't con them, don't insult them.. They cannot wake up, and you cannot help them to get to their goals. So lose lose condition..

You take effort to con, then insult abit, but know how to take handbrake, then sayang back a bit. Client realized is good, happy.. smile.gif Win win liao..

***Above just for laugh.. Not practical.

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post Jun 17 2011, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 17 2011, 07:21 PM)
for Agent and FMUTM member fees
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License to con+insult without people bashing u up smile.gif
Lolz
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post Jun 17 2011, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 17 2011, 07:35 PM)
U forgot - and if the victim, oops i meant customer, is not "too aware", robbing them blind while making them feel good and hopeful for their future  tongue.gif
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Yo yo yo!! I spotted shark here also. Hahaha
Shark leader.. smile.gif Phew weeet
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post Jun 17 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 17 2011, 09:35 PM)
I got conned!
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But you got conned for the better, right? Hehehe

Joking joking.. But, are you still "ok" with mutual fund after that experience?

In my opinion, fund is ok.. Just the person who presented it..
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post Jun 17 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 17 2011, 11:28 PM)
I have decided to invest in Public Savings Fund, but it would be end of this month.

I think at this point of time I have to put his name as my consultant because I don't have other UT consultant in mind now...
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PSF.. Good. I also got..
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post Jun 18 2011, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 17 2011, 11:40 PM)
How long have you been holding?
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1 year gua.. Haha

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