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Bonescythe
post Aug 13 2011, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 13 2011, 05:34 PM)
Hehhe - dont "eat" too much AJI tongue.gif.

I'm currently now >54% in bonds, FD, etc. (Fixed income)
+ 31% +/- in REITs & Properties
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15% or less in Equities exREITs.

Thank goodness to Value Averaging reducing most of my entries earlier  blush.gif

Whew! The whiplash / roller-coaster in Equities these days are "interesting" to say the least. GREAT time for ppl that have been Value Averaging earlier till now laugh.gif
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Haizh.. 54 + 31 = 85%
85% in laggard stuffs which don't need monitoring.. So good.

Aji really Aji aji aji liao.. Hahaha.. Continue to hold Aji!! Next time sure people will eat more Aji!!!
Value averaging liau. Good good good..


Added on August 13, 2011, 9:28 pm
QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 13 2011, 05:47 PM)
Halo, what's the tax rate for dividends?
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From equities, 25% smile.gif


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post Aug 13 2011, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:38 PM)
ya, we just sold the units..... not closed the acc.

if we withdraw all the money from saving acc, the acc is empty but still active.
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If QE3 announced, then is time to ask customer to cash in again, and all the agent will be smiling again smile.gif

Hahaha..
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post Aug 13 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 13 2011, 09:33 PM)
I support - i like Ajishio tongue.gif
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Please support me by buying Ajinomoto to eat.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(howszat @ Aug 13 2011, 09:45 PM)
According to google (which you like to quote), you are way too much under-weight in equities. You should be a lot higher - depending on which "google" page you believe, you should be as high as 60% in equities.
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60% equity right now at this moment? Wah lao.. You must be a super risk taker.. The market now so volatile until got people suicide already..
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post Aug 13 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Aug 13 2011, 09:51 PM)
Not for any particular moment, just a general % based on general investment principles, taking years-to-retirement into account. I presume wong is not that old...

People committing suicide are gamblers - not investors.
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Depends on different people risk appetite la.. smile.gif
Last time i 50% warrant, even more geng.. End up can see thru my flesh when economy down. smile.gif

So bond is good smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2011, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:54 PM)
corporate tax not 26%-ah? sorry if i mistake.
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25% smile.gif

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post Aug 13 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 13 2011, 10:06 PM)
Heheh - but i'm old enough to see 1997-1998 DECIMATE hold blindly 60% to 80% equities, which supposedly youngsters should and never recovered if they kept holding only. Take a look at historical data on how long it took KLCI to climb back up to pre-1997 highest point from post 1998 200-ish index. If U look and stare at it from 1998 till 2006/2007, U may be totally give up on stocks/equities tongue.gif Then 2008 happens!  laugh.gif
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In fact, Some cannot even break even the portfolio in the 2008 crisis till now although doing DCA..
Equities UT drop 50% or more.. Terrible.. Those holding that time now still speechless.

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post Aug 14 2011, 01:29 AM

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SC is 5.5%.. But to be frank, agent commission really sarks to the bottom one.. Client invest RM1000, agent commission only around RM25. Zzz
Car petrol toll drink eat, finish off already la..
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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 14 2011, 01:40 AM)
If only you have one client investing $1000 smile.gif.
Well, with 10 clients investing $100k each, 2.5% - RM25K agent commision is alot.
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Haha. Say is easy la brother. Wait till you go to the real world market and see the responses first, then you will know.

If you got 1000 customer, each investing RM100 per month for with you, you are consider lucky shot already to be honest.

And 1000 customer at 100 each, monthly you will get around 3k+ la.. Hahaha.

If 10 client investing 100k each, that is one off.. One off salary does not give u a career..
Only if u got a fat and wide base of people investing with you in a consistent manner, then only you can consider it as a good career.. If not, stick to working first before going full time.


Added on August 14, 2011, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 14 2011, 06:31 AM)
True if the agent adds value.

If the agent is nearly as blur as the customer OR worse, only worried about his/her own commission, then buta buta customer "straight away" lose 5.5% lor. Makes it harder to win when one's ammo is cut down right at the beginning, even for getting into the battle tongue.gif

Note that either most sales agents just put their customers on auto-cruise (monthly Direct Debit Instruction / Standing Instruction) and the 5.5% (ok lar, realistically 2.75% only flows to sales agent) keeps draining along. Lama lama jadi bukit heheh 
OR
con-sulted the customer to go in lump sum, sure win-wan, to "lock-in their commission one shot"
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This kind of agent.. really hahaha.. Better let me Con+Insult then, you will feel better after that.

Lolz joking.

But if anyone wanna have me as agent, can PM me la.. I am active tracker on KLSE market and got other lubangs..
smile.gif

But to be frank.. If wanna say investing in UT and compare to listed REITs, I think some listed REITs can perform better..
But asking people to buy listed REITs, no commission.
Asking people to buy UT, got commission

But listed REIT can easily perform better than quite a lot of UT fund..

So confused. Hahaha..


Added on August 14, 2011, 4:21 pm
QUOTE(Dackson @ Aug 14 2011, 10:39 AM)
I dnt think the client help much ...
Ask to buy fixed income fund, this fund keep forming a circle one. How to make money from this fund ? Look like he wanna ensure you sold and buy back the fund constantly to generate fix income for him.
The agent get the commission yet didnt inform to sold the fund, even keep help u buy it when the fund keep dropping =___=
Some more ask my mum to buy it early and said dividend coming. End up by mum buy at the top price, the dividend not enough to cover lose. buy at 0.86xx now it raise back to from previous bottom 0.7980xx ~.~

For them to get 10k a month is easy ! Their main target is those who dnt know it ~
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I just want to say.. Ouch!!
Pushing customer to buy cum dividend.. sad.gif

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post Aug 14 2011, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Dackson @ Aug 14 2011, 04:39 PM)
Agent as broker ? Fund Manager?
Corrected.. haha.. Joking

QUOTE(Dackson @ Aug 14 2011, 04:39 PM)
Agent as broker ? Fund agent ?
Which REITs ?
What is UT ??

That agent is friend some more  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
So easy ask ppl buy with dividend, i also can do it. I can get the license if i want. Currently i thinking want to get investment link insurance or not. This kind of job hv part time one ?
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Haha.. Public Mutual Fund lo... smile.gif
Hahaha


Added on August 14, 2011, 5:00 pm
QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 14 2011, 04:57 PM)
Of course I know la. Depend on how good you are as a sales agent. Those working full-time can make it so 2.5% is nothing to laugh about, plus u still get annual 'career benefit' like wong said. I'm just saying that 2.5% is a very reasonable amount given to the agents lo. From the client POV, 5.5% is too much leh~ if PM increase the SC just to pay more to the agents then... shakehead.gif  .
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Can is can de. Got to work really very very hard hard hard in the first few year.
No joke, super hard..

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post Aug 14 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Aug 14 2011, 11:09 PM)
At the moment, i invest 70% bonds 30% equity(public smallcap + DCA). Bonds holding are getting bigger as I invest my monthly saving in it. For now, i think KLCI is on high tide. Got room to grow, but you wont see 1700-1800 points any sooner. More rooms to go down i guess  sweat.gif .

My personal strategy, basically im more like a conservative investor. Waiting for KLCI to drop until 1200points, then i will adjust my portfolio 40% bond 60% equity. Drop until 800points, 20% bond 80% equity. 200points, 100% equity.

If the market dont fall that much or very volatile, at least bond can generate money. My agent bloody hell one. Up until now he say 80-100% equity. Long term gain confirm gain money.  doh.gif  I just nod..nod and nod. But no choice la for him, making living out of this.
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I wonder how they pass the exam.. Code of conduct all wrong smile.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(cicakubin @ Aug 18 2011, 01:14 PM)
hi, anyone knows when the exam briefing gonna held in KL this september?
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No need briefing de la.
Just do some past year question, then can sit for the exam.
If I am not wrong, I think I took around 35 minutes to complete 60 question. Aced them easily
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post Aug 22 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(milentechie @ Aug 22 2011, 03:20 PM)
Some times, I don't know whether to feel happy or sad when the market crashed.
Sad because my investment value shrunk.
Happy because it mega sales. Great time to buy at discounted price.
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If you got a lot of cash in hand, u will be happy.
If you got no cash in hand, then you will be sad
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 22 2011, 04:15 PM)
I got no "lots of cash" in hand wor, and not much in bank. Mostly in bond funds & REITs, some only in bank  cry.gif
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The biggest mistake u made is, you got no cash with me

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