Can we eat these food mildly and still able to indulge in the forbidden food by the malaysia delicacy?

1) Snickers
2) Roti Canai
3) Ice Cream (1 Scoop of Baskin Robbin)
4) Banana Split ( 3 Scoops and a Banana)
5) Curry Chicken with Gravy
6) YOgurt
7) Vitagen
8) Milk
9) Kit Kat
10) Satay Ayam (15 Sticks)
11) Mee Goreng
12) Nasi Lemak ( Banana Leaf Pack)
13) Cendol
14) Tai Lok Meen
15) Mentos
16) Glucolin ( 4 cups a day)
17) Ribena ( 4 cups a day)
18) Water Melon
19) Fruit Rojak
20) Murtabak Ayam

This post has been edited by hackwire: Jan 13 2010, 12:50 PM

what about those decorated coffee drinks like starbucks?

The top of the top for me: Fast food

Only carbohydrates. All form of carbohydrates.

and Excessive calories surplus

high glycemic index foods.

What does this thread have to do with BBing/training?

of course it does. once in a while we might want to indulge in food but i wonder which one is not that bad .
sometimes i do take snickers and 2-3 spoon of ice cream at night when i hungry but i wonder if its bad for my diet?

how about kentucky fried chicken?

by the way, im not the type of person who have time to prepare my own food so i look for alternatives.

i take KFC snack plate for dinner after my postworkout shake twice a week(sometimes not postworkout, maybe during weekends)....pretty happy with the result XD

=.= it is so obvious.

No time then take 2 spoon full of peanut butter plus 1 serving of whey wasnt a bad alternative thou. OR nuts, it has been mention n time for it's wonderfulness.


KFC is not bad without those skin. but we miss out the fun of KFC. So... ur call

Sweet drink
Sweet thing.
fruit is ok in moderation

Many people drink/eat this for their 'energy'

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Jan 13 2010, 11:32 AM

just order char koay teow extra <insert word>

this thread should be in Health&Fitness, not here...

TS, if you have time, try google carbs and fats...you'll be amaze on how good you're later to choose which food is good and which is bad...to list the bad food, it'll keep adding up...not to mention all the malay, chinese and indian delicacies and so on...

so instead of we give you the fish everytime you hungry, we should ask you to go get yourself the fishing rod...start with the stickies...

BTW, my answer would be similar to 4rings...carbs...

i know some of the staple food which many dieters and body builders will take such as peanut butter, sandwiches , protein, chicken thigh , fruits , tuna fish etc but i just want to know if any of the forbidden food especially malaysian one can be turn into a diet food.

eg.

roti canai , tell the mamak not to cook with oil or just had 1 piece .
or
a scoop of ice cream
or
if a cup of milk is not as bad as we think.


I mean why not if those of you can share your secret recipe in the forbidden food so that all of us don't have to be bore by the bodybuilder food i mentioned above.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Jan 13 2010, 12:47 PM

this, this, and this...

You can as long as you can exercise enough to burn the amount of calories you consume... you'd probably need to spend A LOT of time in the gym doing hardcore exercises... 5-6 hours should be enough



No more trans fat ?

howww?? do you know the dough itself they dump into container full of oil. LOL.
instead of roti canai, better order roti telur, at least its sin with protein. lulz


Chow

It's alright to take peanut butter but opt for the low fat ones. And did you mean chicken breast instead of thigh?

As for what you mean - I think I get it but hard to give an explanation as how much one should take. Seriously speaking, 1 scoop of ice cream is harmless if you only take it one a month?

panda-man gave a good site: myfitnesspal.com to keep track of your daily food intake and how much calories it contains/ you consumed.

Roti canai is a big no-no. You can substitute it with naan or chapati. According to the site (above) - all based on 1 serving (items subject to accuracy):

1 pc roti canai = 409 calories
1 pc chapati = 110 calories
1 pc naan (est 70g) = 182 calories
1/2 cup tandoori chicken breast stripes = 120 calories
Nestle Milo hot drink = 305 calories
Home made instand white coffee = 42 calories (?)
Milk - Chocolate beverage, hot cocoa = 193 calories
Nescafe (100gm) = 63 calories

1 serving (401g) of mee maggie goreng (mamak) = 312 calories
1 serving of nasi lemak (biasa) = 579 calories

KFC OR chicken breast w/o skin/ breading (1pc abt 108gm) = 140 calories
KFC OR drumstick (1pc abt 59gm) = 130 calories
KFC OR wing (1pc abt 47gm) = 130 calories
KFC Zinger burger = 481 calories

KFC mashed potatoes = 130 calories
KFC Coleslaw (130gm) = 180 calories
KFC potato wedges (102gm) = 260 calories
KFC Fries = 257 calories

and some from our other fav fastfood chain: Mc D

Small fries = 230 calories
Medium fries = 380 calories
Large fries = 500 calories
Hash brown = 136 calories

Medium coke = 210 calories
Large coke = 310 calories
Hot fudge sundae = 330 calories

Qtr pounder with cheese = 510 calories
Big Mac (1/2 burger) = 270 calories
Cheeseburger = 300 calories
Mc Chicken = 360 calories
4 pcs nugget = 190 calories
Porridge (small) = 164 calories

Others:

Char kuey teow (1 plate of 384gm) = 744 calories
Chinese fried rice (1 cup) = 363 calories
Home made spaghetti (1.5 cups) + meat sauce = 312 calories
Chinese chow mein (fried noodles) 1 cup = 237 calories
Claypot chicken rice (1 bowl) = 435 calories
Domino's thin crust cheese pizza - medium (1 slice) = 139 calories
Pizza Hut large pepperoni pizza (1 slice) = 340 calories
Pizza Hut breadstick (1pc) = 140 calories
Maggi instant noodles: Curry (1 pkt) = 298 calories
335ml Coke = 140 calories
Heinz - Baked Beans (1/2 can) = 73 calories
Home made chicken curry (1 cup) = 250 calories
Thai green curry chicken (200gm) = 292 calories
Curry chicken with steamed rice (1 cup) = 550 calories
Grilled sirloin steak (6 oz) = 235 calories
Ribeye steak (3 oz) = 260 calories


Ice creams:

Wall's cornetto (classico) = 180 calories
Wall's cornetto (strawberry) = 175 calories
Wall's Magnum (1 bar) = 264 calories
1/2 cup vanilla ice cream = 145 calories
1/2 cup chocolate ice cream = 125 calories
1/2 cup vanilla ice cream (rich) = 266 calories
Baskin Robbins cookies & cream (1 scoop) = 170 calories
Baskin Robbins mint choc chip (1 scoop) = 270 calories
Haagen Dazs vanilla ice cream (1/2 cup) = 270 calories
Haagen Dazs chocolate ice cream (1/2 cup) = 260 calories
Ben & Jerry's peanut butter cup (1/2 cup) = 340 calories

Snacks (1 each):

Dunkin donuts (glazed donut) = 220 calories
Krispy Kreme Ori glazed donut = 190 calories
Lotus seed pau = 170 calories
Butter croissant (medium) = 231 calories
Starbuck's butter croissant = 290 calories
Homemade tuna sandwich with mayo = 275 calories
Ham & cheese sandwich (white bread) = 440 calories
Subway turkey sandwich (6 inches), white bread = 280 calories
Peanut butter & jelly sandwich = 180 calories

Oreo sandwich cookies (3 cookies) = 160 calories
Plain/ buttermilk biscuits (baked) = 364 calories
Jacob's low salt hi-fibre (26gm) = 115 calories
Jacob's cream cracker (1 pc) = 35 calories
Arnott's - Tim Tam (1pc) = 97 calories
Arnott's - Tim Tam (Double Coat) 1pc = 114 calories

Rojak buah (250gm) = 150 calories
Local rojak (mamak - 315gm) = 559 calories
Vietnamese spring rolls (2 pcs) = 84 calories
Siu Mai (1 dumpling) = 58 calories
Fried gyoza (1pc) = 184 calories

Peanuts - All types, dry-roasted, with salt (100gm) = 585 calories
Medium banana (abt 7" long) = 105 calories
Chocolate cake with choc frosting (1 slice) = 235 calories
Cheese cake (1 slice) = 630 calories
Sponge cake (1 slice) = 110 calories
Blackforest (1 slice) = 479 calories
Blueberry muffin (med) = 313 calories
Starbuck's blueberry muffin = 380 calories

Chips (based on per serving):

Twisties - cheese (45gm) = 223 calories
Twisties - chicken (50gm) = 260 calories
Twisties - Chipster Flaming BBQ (20gm) = 110 calories
Lurve Multigrain chips Hot 'n' Spicy (23gm) = 102 calories
Smith's - Classic Crinkle Cut Chicken Chips (100gm) = 498 calories
Smith's - Thin Cut Sour Cream & Onion Chips (27gm) = 135 calories
Pringles sour cream (16 crisps) = 150 calories
Pringles barbeque (15 chips) = 150 calories
Taco bell nachos & cheese (1 bag) = 330 calories
Mamee monster noodle snack (25gm) = 122 calories

I compiled a little of what we usually eat. As I generate the calories, I got more and more obsessed into checking thus the long list.

For example, if you have sedentary worklife - then in myfitnesspal their estimation is that you should not consume over 1,200 calories per day (if you are on a diet). Different people will have different calories requirement (also based on diff purpose eg. diet, maintain, increase weight etc).

myremi also provide a good site: calorieking where you can also check for calories.

lol....who so free go and count those ==

Thank u so much . now i really know what is going into my body.
didn't know that milo is one of the high calories.

local foods dtbase is here :
http://cekodok.com/


Chow

lol no need count, just go to the site and generate result then copy & paste!

Yes, I'm surprised too at Milo. But I think the calories include extra milk/ sugar. I usually drink milo kosong so I don't think it'll yield that high though (unfortunately there's no calorie count for milo kosong so I have no idea).

Those are just estimations, some might not be accurate ^^; I tried going for 1,200 calories today and found myself starving between brunch. Had to drag my colleague out for lunch @ 12 sharp coz I was so hungry!

It's not end of the day yet but I only have another 252 calories to spare for dinner it'll depend on what's cooking tonight~

omg, u actually list out the entire list.... I wonder if google gona be out of business.

This post has been edited by jamis: Jan 13 2010, 05:52 PM

hey thanks for this informative post. now i can differentiates between the good foods and the bads

for milo calories, can refer to it's nutritional info. for me, roti canai is bad because of planta used in it. same with roti telur. so no more roti canai and roti telur for me

thanks bata for such a wonderful site. if i dindn't ask, i think i will never know of this valuable site.

now at least i know some of the food calories and should just take half of it rather than skipping it as when we get really hungry, we really hunt down this food like a swine as we miss them for too long.

My longest may not be like some of you which is counting by the number of days but by hours due to working hours and hate cooking.

so i just like to thank those who helps me out here.

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Added on January 14, 2010, 3:19 amlooking at the calories counter in cekodok. Should we watch out more on the Fat or Carb?

This post has been edited by hackwire: Jan 14 2010, 03:19 AM

Holy schmoly! Hackwire,
Just freaking eat an apple/orange/pear/some sort of fruits when you're hungry at night, dude.

There's a research (as usual, i forgot where it is & too lazy to google now):
When food high in carbs/sugar and fats (& salt) are eaten together, a rat simply gorges the food whether it's hungry or not. It will even continue to eat despite being fed full a few moments ago. It's the same mechanism in humans.

All the above you mentioned: all contains high amounts of carbs and fats. There's no way to turn off that hunger once you take a spoon of that ice cream or chips.

I mean it's ok to go eat those snacks once a month during a party or something. But eating them every other night? You guys need to clean your taste palettes.

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Sweetpez:
Hungry?

Eat high fibrous fruits. Apples are good.
And drink water.

1 apple (big one) is more than enough to stuff you up. And you don't need to worry about calories in fruit. You could binge on apples and not gain weight that easily. (I seriously don't think it's even possible to binge on apples).

its ok, shud thanked Kevin Zahri instead, he's the one building that site
reading your replies here, i assume you have big appetites kind of people?


Chow

When you're born in a family of weirdos like mine, you'll see that can happen. Our record is 8 apples by my cousin (I think you've seen him. 6'3" guy). Apple gorging, pretty sick! OF course that was after some "herbs" lah.

i don't think i can eat like some of you guys can . Fruits are just for dessert for me. when come to food at the street, how can one say "Tak Nak" when everybody is fighting for table at the best restaurant.

i wish i can train myself to eat moderately .

Malaysian food really bad . probably will switch to more japanese food but so expensive . actually good quality food suppose to be cheaper but it turn out to be more expensive. wonder why our good food is tasteless without good sauce. japanese really good . no sauce or anything also the taste is already good.

both...trans fat and processed carbs...just keep it simple...need not to overlook those matters...as simple as that...pushing yourself to start a diet is more important...procastinate later is your enemy...

Woah man! 8 freaking apples at 1 go? How the heck he stuff all that down with all the fibre and water? At most I could do 2-3 when I'm hungry.
Your cousin? The Subang dude?

Lame.
I mean, it's ok if you cheat on some fatty street food once in a while. But then, takkan every time you go out, you need to eat something bad?

Hey, it's your choice.

There's no need to count calories. You can eat as much as you want without getting fat, just minus the carbs. Excessive dietary protein and fat can't be stored in the body. They will be excreted out. No point counting calories because it doesn't work. You need a calculator to count calories but there is no calculator inside our body. How do you expect our body to calculate calories without a calculator? Our body recognizes food as nutrients not calories. Macro nutrients such as protein and carbs are involved in stimulation of certain hormones which will trigger the storage of fat and utilization of fat as energy.

By eating the right ratio of macro nutrients will help you to lose fats, gain quality muscles or maintaining your ideal body fat levels.

But you can calculate them just in making sure you've reach your target for bulking etc, right? Because, like me, I thought I've eat a lot but when calculate the amount of calories its not even reach 2000. Am wondering, thanks.

is fat more the culprit than carb? I used to eat lots of oily food. i can do away with carbs but oily food is a little hard. perhaps , olive oil cooking is an option.

Look up acylation-stimulation protein.
If our body don't recognize calories, then where do we get the energy to live?

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Added on January 15, 2010, 2:47 pmWhat I do?

My total caloric intake on a diet is about 2000 cals

Just fast through out the day and grind thru the hunger.
Unless I work out, then I break my fast prior to going to the gym I like milk so this is the one of the best solutions i've came up with.
400ML pre and 600 ML post workout - so 1 liter of HL white milk = 500 calories and 50 grams of protein.


After which I'll just have fun eating my hearts outs - i have 1500 calories to splurge, which is a lot of food actually unless you're going drinking.

This post has been edited by weib: Jan 15 2010, 02:47 PM

this is the problem...when you're suppose to keep it simple, you're tend to overlook things...dude, processed carbs AND trans fat...just watch out for them...

cekodok has been set up in 2008 i guess. correct me if i'm wrong. anyone know how old is kevin zahari ?