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subangman
post May 24 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(cassiemissy @ May 24 2010, 09:16 AM)
wow.. the guzheng look so.. pretty! haha.. i'm guessing the price should be over 5 digits.. haha.. 

btw.. i'm curious to know how much is you guys guzheng?
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tat two pretti cost more than US$250,000 each............... doh.gif

the 1st one is about 70Kg. ,................ will never pay for it.

my gals guzheng .... now accumalating to more than 20K alridi..... soon will get rid 1 and replaced with a Scarlet bird #10 from Xian.
anyone like to join me tis year end to guzheng factory visit @ Xian and pickup goodies while tourin the terracotta city.

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post May 24 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 24 2010, 10:21 AM)
Woooh,
I like scarlett bird (natural dried board). Post the pic here Subang, I want to see. I did not find it so I bought a Dun Huang instead. I was just desparete to have one to commence practising asap.

I am interested in Xian. I believe we do not have direct flight to Xian. What's the hurry to go this year end? Anyway we have lots of time to cover this topic by the well.

My guzheng is a bit above the entry level. Costed me about RM3000.

I wonder if those fiber glass thingy can really transmit the sound into the sound box. The second one has a wooden sound board but I question the ability of the fiber glass casing to contain the sound. I think it is a display set. I initially guess it cost 10k.
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we have direct flights from KampungKUL to Xi AN,CN at least 5-6 operators.....

Scarlett #10.... the Rolls Royce of guzheng.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230477165782

maddie dun like the cravings.... might need to custom made carvings for her when we r there..... personalise gift from SANTA for X'mas meh


Added on May 24, 2010, 11:37 am
QUOTE(empire @ May 24 2010, 11:29 AM)
wah...you people so high end ah?
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not high end bru...... my gal found a generous SANTA to take up the tap doh.gif and been awhile we didn't go out as i am a veri busy wit my stuff...
lookin to take 1-2 mths off after handover and complete tis painful project.

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post May 24 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 24 2010, 11:52 AM)
Wow,
Nice guzheng, but I think they got higher end wan lah. It is nice to go there and get your customised carving. I suggest you find a place like pasar seni. They have people who could just write a poem when you give them your name. You give name and word guzheng and ask them to write you a poem. Then carve that poem on the guzheng.
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u r the MAN... u read my mind. tat's why need to go for factory visit and willing dump the terracotta army site visit if required ....

higher than #10 ... need her to test it out .... it's hers not mine. Dunno how to choose anyway.... only know wo liang yeh there.
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post May 24 2010, 04:22 PM

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THX to Yukina another great GuZheng lover i come to know in other forum for the photo.

Xian Scarlet Bird Factory.
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This is how to do the in-prints.
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So u ppl wan to tag along ?

Faceless : i dun need to choose... let Maddie do it herself... i busy with ur so call wineskin budder.

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post May 24 2010, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 24 2010, 04:43 PM)
So, where they get the in-prints?

Although my instrument is already full of, it is just nce to know.
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the in-prints is extremely thin paper.... i got something better in mind alridi how to do it .. just need a good poem. LOL!

i just re-check my mail box and found tis offer forwarded to me :-

Offers
Shangri-La Hotel, Xian offers various special offers and deals for your travel to Xian. Hotel packages include discounted rates in addition to other amenities and benefits.

From RMB 788 per night

Stay with us for minimum 14 consecutive nights or more and enjoy our legendary hospitality at special rates, and receive a host of value-added benefits. (i got corporate rate : Golden Circle member can talk to them for 3nite package payin RMB 888/nite).

This offer includes:

Stay in a Deluxe City View Room (Singe : RMB 788, Double : RMB 888) or a Deluxe Garden View Room (Single : RMB 988, Double : RMB 1,088)
Complimentary daily buffet breakfast
Complimentary limousine transfer from airport to hotel
Free local telephone calls
Complimentary broadband Internet access
Free in-room tea and coffee making facilities
Free access to Health Club and gymnasium facilities with heated indoor swimming pool, Jacuzzi, steam and sauna room
15% discount in Yi Café and Siam Garden*
20% on body and facial treatments at Shangri-La SPA*
25% on Business Centre and transportation services*
30% discount on laundry and dry cleaning*


This offer is available from 1 Jan 2010 through 31 Dec 2010.................. so who like to tag along for GuZheng Scarlet Bird factory visit?

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post May 25 2010, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Cyndi6293 @ May 25 2010, 03:58 PM)
had always hoped to learn gu zheng.. but it's too pricey to buy one.. and the family's economy doesnt allow me to do so..

good luck in ur learning! =D
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dun b sad gal.....u can start off wit a smaller guzheng... less than RM500.... something like empire having.


Added on May 25, 2010, 5:09 pm
QUOTE(faceless @ May 25 2010, 04:06 PM)
Never mind Cindi, you learn the paino and guitar first then learn the guzheng. All of us here will give you the necessary guidance. I am thinking of going to the keyboard after the guzheng biggrin.gif
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faceless.... i am wondering ur main occupation is wat ?

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post May 27 2010, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 25 2010, 03:13 PM)
Chang An the old name for Xian is a nice place. It had been made the capital under several dynasties. I always wanted to visit it. When I found out that is was home of the Scarlett Bird factory all the more I want to go there. The tong tree also originate from this place. Going there by this year is a bit too soon. Anyway we will talk by the well Subang.
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Bru ... this is the "tong tree".. but quite a pity to chop it down for a guzheng.


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post May 29 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(cassiemissy @ May 25 2010, 04:40 PM)
good good.. the more instrument the better! haha
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so.. i made u an avatar tat suits u ... but no more space for guZheng... LOL

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 29 2010, 03:31 PM)
Wow,

I did not know you are a nature lover too, Subang.
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me greenie... LOL... me destroyer "Lord Shiva".

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post May 31 2010, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(cassiemissy @ May 31 2010, 10:14 AM)
lol.. thanks subang! I change my avatar to it adi.. laugh.gif  looks cute! ^^  true hor.. no place for guzheng.. too big adi..haha..
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it looks like u right... just without ur lovely dimples... hahaha.

faceless u wan one also ?
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QUOTE(faceless @ Jun 1 2010, 03:35 PM)
Thanks Cassie. I am looking forward to it. You did not make any promise. I was asking from Claire actually as she mentioned she had an easy two handed version. She must have been buzy. Perhaps yours is the same version that is why you thought you made a promise to post it here.

I dont watch Korean Drama. I would not know if your are right or wrong.
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aiya... tat movie been on TV from astro to TV3 ... veri sian one for man like us...... best for ladies * love story & cookin*

anyway u wan the score; if so i scan it for u when back to KampungKUL tis weekend if cassie can't make it.


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hahahahaha.... faceless... i read ur postin yst but on Edge (No 3G / ADSL there) so lazy to reply ... sori... now just touch ground back to kampungKUL.

yesssss i got 3+1mini guzhengs at home but mei mei lately veri moody ... mayb i stopped her latin dancin class.. boycott music alridi... susah lar
to deal wit my gals  doh.gif  notworthy.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif



Made tis for my 帝女. ... exactly looks like her.

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ohh yeah... got two choice :-

1. Trip to Xian end of the year for factory visit for Scarlett Bird #10 or.

2. China International Musical Instrument Expo (Guangzhou) March 2011...

http://www.biztradeshows.com/trade-events/...ments-expo.html

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QUOTE(devillyy @ Jun 5 2010, 02:25 PM)
hi.....,im 1 of the guzheng teacher from ss2  keejan
nice to meet all the guzheng lovers here:-)
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welcome.... so u teaches @ Alan's center.... mayb u r the 1st teacher joining us here.... other than faceless the part time tutor teaching while attending his class... LOL hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

hopes u contributes along the line for fellow forumers here ..... i'm not a guzheng player... but a passion lover towards instruments. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(devillyy @ Jun 5 2010, 06:56 PM)
ya...i teach at alan's place and given some private lessons oso...

Haha actually i think im too late cos now only found this nice forum and meet up all the guzheng lovers here...urs info is more updated than mine...hehe.

Anyway...i will try my best to sharing all my guzheng knowledge with u guys here ya...
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post Jun 20 2010, 12:59 PM

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Faceless: Bru .. as promised here are 2 avatars made for u to comment... the guzheng one still in touchup mode...
Veri busy lately lar.... and the worst no ADSL nor 3G... only GPRS. So veri lazy to comment / reply.
Just check mails only.


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QUOTE(Ooi @ Jul 3 2010, 08:48 PM)
Oh faceless ask me to come here..Do u knw anyone subang jaya area got guzheng instrument shop or offering guzheng lessons?
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Faceless : thx veri much brudder. sweat.gif

guzheng instrument shop in sj .. not really. as i dun think they carry much choice.... PJ yes.

guzheng class in SJ : yes.. at least i know 3. But which type of guzheng u like to play... 23 steel or 21 nylon strings.

pls read from the beginning of this thread ... u will learn and might help u to know a liitle bit in depth before committin thyself in guzheng.

for cello info :- http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/622246 (tis one of the most popular thread in lowyat musicians)...*sigh*

for harp :- pls read all the thread in here (lowyat musicians) ... i posted some comments there too.... wat u like to know???


read to enhance and not thru handouts... and i will guide and help as much as i know lil sister
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Faceless & all,

good to b back after nearly 1 mth long away from ADSL and now unifi at home... I HATE GPRS/EDGE ; BUT PAID for HSDPA !!! (all Kampung service provider TIPU KUAT)

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i got some info for young talented chinese instrument players.

There will be a competition in Klang Parade 1st week of Sept. Registration opens now.

Age : 12yrs to 21yrs.

Instrument : Chinese Orchestra (Solo)

Prize : CASH RM300 + trophy.

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I am in the mid of ordering new guzheng string for mei mei as need to restring one of her guzheng ..... who like to have new strings pls let me know before wed.

1. Dunhuang Type B guzheng strings set (21 nylon coated) USD41.83.

2. Zhuque (Scarlet Bird) Professional Guzheng string set USD59.50.

For info these are the top guzheng strings from top guzheng manufacture in China.

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QUOTE(faceless @ Jun 30 2010, 04:17 PM)
Phil,
I heard of the Kinta Valley Wind Ochestra on the papers. I think it was last Sunday papers. I am not a big fan of wind instrument because it is not easy to blow sound out of them. I did not know they had guzheng but Ipoh may be a problem. I may end up getting home real late since it ends at 10pm. Do let me know of your other concerts. If it is in KL, most likely I will support unless some bad clashes with my schedule.
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my sister learning guzheng and erhu ... she is near Ipoh.

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QUOTE(Ooi @ Jul 4 2010, 03:32 PM)
hahaha,..tat strings tread is kinda erm..haha i knw the person who start tat tread, doubt tat person reply there anymore but i give it a try..thanks

As u see i have no idea wat n wat for guzheng until i try my hands on it n experience for myself which type of guzheng i prefer no? where the instru shop in puchong?

and where is the 3 classes in subang jaya?
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wat u like to know about cello /harp?

my son is doing cello in G3. ABRSM and so is my 2nd gal .... all info can get here.

harp .. my 2nd gal wan to take it as her 4th instrument.. info also available here... but PM me in those two as tis thread not really suitable.


as for guzheng as i said in the 1st and 2nd page of tis thread ...
23 steel strings go to Dun Huang SS2,
21 nylon strings go to SS2 Keejan and ask for Alan..... http://www.keejan.com

wat makes u like these 3 strings instruments (harp/cello/guzheng) ???? seems tat u didn't have any background in music\..

i think u should stick to guitar (get a KAPOK) unless $ is not an equation to u then venture to above 3 instrument. rclxub.gif thumbup.gif doh.gif


Added on July 4, 2010, 6:54 pm
QUOTE(hyumi @ Jun 12 2010, 02:09 PM)
hiee everybody!
omg, i've been away for so long! hahaa

btw, i just stopped my gu zheng lesson this month cause going to Australia next month for studies ><
good news is, i just finish grade 1 haha. teacher ask me take exam, but i won't be around =.=

hi subangman!
i see u guys are planning a trip? o.0
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cassie : u still around in Kampung or @ downunder now ? if so where about ?

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QUOTE(Ooi @ Jul 5 2010, 12:19 AM)
Thanks for advice i will try ask those u mention.. I have background in music, in piano, violin etc..I love the cello for the mellow sound it produces, the beautiful enchanting sound tat harp does n the simple, light n deep n heavy sound tat guzheng gives.. I mean its not like i must have a so specific reason to like all 3 n tats not weird..Every instrument is lovely in itself.. N just likin this n tat instrument n learning more doesnt hurt right, i mean ur daughter is also learnin a few herself.. n tats great..
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well my gal used to join her younger bro in his class... with her strong music background ... bow and pizzicato not a problem to her.

there's another gal here similiar to u ... misscassie "hiding in the dark"... Dip level for piano/ violin / guzheng and also stays in SJ area.


Added on July 5, 2010, 1:37 amMs. OOI: Btw when u r in either shop pls dun mentioned the other one... two different CLANs. OK.

else u won't get the best info.

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QUOTE(faceless @ Jul 5 2010, 09:49 AM)
Phil,
How did the concert go yesterday? What song did you play?

Subang,
It is good to see that you have come back to Kampung KUL. Wow, it just one weekend and there are so many posts. Why are you getting new strings for mei mei? They do not sound right anymore or rusted? Mine are starting to rust afer 2 years but they still sound okay.
Hah, if I had not read her other post in the thread she created on Cello, Harp and Guzheng I would have though she is Cassie in disguise.

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due to our KampungKUL climate conditions... and since one of her string in the brink of snappin mayb due to too much 'yew' i wan to re-string all her guzheng and the worst is that stupid online shop min order is of 2 sets so i see is there any one here like to re-string theirs. Postage fees on me.

http://www.sogoeo.com/folk-musical-strings...5aqu4mtt893e506

however i am in the cross road of choosing the strings for her ... after reading wat been translated by google * rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif * banana mah.

http://www.qinzheng.org/viewthread.php?tid...6w5T0XtXOSp8_Yg

so i just take the top two lor... one for the fav. guzheng (the string @ brink of kaput) and re-string her entire newly Dunhuang rosewood #21 guzheng as i dun know wat type of the present strings.

http://www.eason.com.sg/products/guzheng/tbz9.jsp

so please let me know if anyone like to get new sets of strings before i press the CONFIRM sale button. TQ sweat.gif


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QUOTE(cassiemissy @ Jul 5 2010, 09:41 AM)
.. and now i'm also very interested to start cello and harp.. hahahahah..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

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there is a 3/4 laying around at home after i upgrade my noti boy to a Scott Cao full size. then later his Luis & Clark if he commits.(then i lelong the scott Cao to u lor) .. hahaha... harp mayb after u grad i hope there is one layin in my house...

maddie still pesterin me on her harp last nite ..... "teacher lilian said will introduce me to her KLPac frd to teach me harp after i've completed AB G8"....... "i wan a concerto harp Dad" ... doh.gif sweat.gif feel like tellin her by then u will be back to the place u born for studies .. cannot bring it there lar darlin.






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QUOTE(faceless @ Jul 5 2010, 02:27 PM)
Subang
Concerning the link about the string. I doubt you get anything out of it for now. It seems like the forumer is asking how good is the scarlett bird string. What it means by this and that? Is it good? Perhaps when some knowledgable forumers give an appropriate answer you can benefit form it.

As to Eason in Singapore, they had my guzheng model on the link you provide. It was like RM1500 more expansive then the price I paid for my guzheng in Macau. Anyway I bought an instrument tuner from them. My brother was in SG so no transport cost for me.

You may want to look for guzheng string locally. It cost about RM5 per string (somewhere in Petaling Street area). I doubt our ear could hear the difference.



Added on July 5, 2010, 2:34 pmCassie, perhaps you can form a duet band with your new found twin. laugh.gif
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thx bru... i am not waitin for their feed back since i hardly understand wats mentioned there thus my conclusion... mei mei get both the so call top strings ..she will then let ah pa know which is better... i dun play ONLY pay. nod.gif

the guzheng that i posted from eason had been in my house since we met for St James Gate.. remember i told u i got her another guzheng to save time from tuning C to D or vice versa....

i can get strings around in klang valley but not the one i like her to have meh.... u know lar; tis ah pa pampers his gals alot one... rclxm9.gif

imagine going to Xian Scarlet Bird factory to let her choose her personalised guzheng wit name engrave on it . either #10 or #10A.

... so i just let frds around know if they like to tumpang ... Eason Sg dun even carry neither one of them... only std Dunhuang Strings. .. she got 1performance, 1 competition and exam within next few weeks... so ah pa rushin those strings in while not neglecting budder/sisters here since postage been paid. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(faceless @ Jul 5 2010, 04:18 PM)
I have some reservation of high end string because of guitar strings which I came across in this forum.

This here is a link on guitar string getting rusty.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1405202  During the late 90s, this Ernie Ball Super Slinky is a very popular string. I am surprise it rust so easily today. You could see my comments there which blames the lost of quality to the company wanting to make fast buck.

Yes I remember you mention about the set you purchase. Now it is surprising to know it is the same model as mine. The model is called "Spiritual Connection" based on the poem in it as translated by Eason. It talks about playing with emotion. When I have done a fair translation of the poem, I will share it here. The poem is by a Tang Dyansty's poet Bai Ju Yi.
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its veri kind of u bru to translate those funny thingy characters on mei mei guzheng... old ah pek learning mandarin now... mum will b happi.

honestly high end or low end strings also rust ... due to sweat from fingers and if user lazy to wipe it clean after contact .. oxidixation from atmosphere will come .... and thumb rule.. meant to be replace every now and then... else strings factory go bankrupt lar.... in additional from in-famous PRC.

i just like to test and find out how good its it since been braggin in few international guzheng forums... never try never know.

http://www.chinesezither.net/forum/viewtop...c86ad04d3ad3ed0

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