Empire : u should go easy on the teachers / dealers.... they also need to make a living too Bru . Afterall willing buyer willing seller meh.
To me 30% profit not really steep lar as this is wat my margin normally .. eventhough sometimes I do enjoy obsence margin.
in my business.. ...depends how well i market it to my client.
I'm sure ur margin is more than 50%... right ..[deep inside ur heart will gives u the answer]

They have to cough out the initial capital and hoping for the 'promise' margin. The worse is they have to take risk when nobody
is willing to buy wat they have stock up.... the bank will pays interest ... the goods won't . and the worst unpredicted
incident such as fire, flood, etc.... total loss lar...

How often someone comes knockin his door for a guzheng ? Even Woh Fatt or Do Re Mi margin also about 20% or more when u look into
their price tags in details if comparing to the net price... esp. strings for instruments.

Goods purchase from Singapore will be subjected to 7% GST and cannot be refunded unless travel by air if I'm not wrong.
So after deductin bits and pieces here and there ... he only takes a cut about say 15% to 20% lar... quite fair .. on top
have to do after sales service such as tuning or sometimes help changing strings,etc.... just like our faceless bru.askin his teacher
to sharpen his blunt sword for free and not even shoutin a cup of tea to the oldman in return.... certainly the oldman will thinks must well
go and have a nap or 'blow water' under the raintree with the kakis also more syiok.
When i see doctor also need to pay consultation fees lar.
My humble opinion in business there is never such a thing right or wrong... it depends on which angle u r viewing.

If there is any store in KampungKUL tat sells any instrument i want example SB#10B I will definitely buy it from them even knowing
paying 25% extra.... tat's how i build my relationship wit Alan and Chin.... sometimes we can't be too calculative.

This post has been edited by subangman: Nov 18 2010, 09:01 PM

ok.. this going to hurt ... forgive me if i am too prudent.

Here it goes... it's not point of crying over spill water ! Just carry on, at least u have purchased ur precious guzheng with ur hard earn money.

U choose the easy way so u face the consequences now.... so as i said earlier there is not such thing as right or wrong ... just face the music and go with the tune.

Forgive and forget the whole incident ,.... tis could be better off for the teacher & student relationship... if he really put in the affort to
teach u so continue and excel it. Its very hard to find a good dedicated teacher; esp when u reach to a high level and away from Klang valley.
In addition teacher going to ur house to teach u... . u have to go to the well when thirsty.... the well won't comes to u.
Faceless might know wat i am tryin to say.....so u pay premium lar.

I didn't blame anyone for buying a 23steel strings DunHuang ZITAN guzheng and turn to b furniture in my house now.... ITS NOT 白木 and at tat time i was a blur dog dog... just pay and b happy.....Think of the bright side... u r still one up than me/my gals ... at least u got the syallbus right ! LOL!

It took me years ... i can say at least 5yrs alridi doing research and scouttin around for all (world wide) info pertaining to guzheng since my gal loves
it. spending numerous hours in front of tis ugly screen searching and leaching for infos ...... sometimes i just transferred these info without much question asked to any person who request for it eventhough without a single TQ from them in return.

I wish i can read & write in Mandarin then i could be able to get more infos as most of the chinese instrument info is in Mandarin.

Do keep in touch here as we like to share infos regarding ur 'sword' and upgrading . .... me gettin veri 'cheong hey' lately.


P/S : He might be reading wat u wrote ....hahahaha.... u never know !


If u like to read .... read it for infos.

http://starvoid.proboards.com/index.cgi?bo...rint&thread=611



This post has been edited by subangman: Nov 18 2010, 11:52 PM

Empire : Bru; u over praise me lar.... me just a cina ah pek tryin to make money worth spendin....
after all money veri hard earn one. kena kaw tou every now and then in order to make a few more !

KLLee83: Here is a few links to brighten u up while enhancing ur soul and nourshing thy spirit. LOL ! {if u like to read from the screen}

1. http://starvoid.proboards.com/index.cgi? my nick there is subangman. all sorts of chinese instrument

2. http://www.chinesezither.net/forum/ my nick is subangman too.... joined 2005... gosshh time flies.

3. http://www.qinzheng.org/viewthread.php?tid...6w5T0XtXOSp8_Yg ...... tis one
unkel struggling lar.... now ur turn to read and advise and update unkel everynow and then ..ok ?


the most important is keep the passion flame burning else kaput and ur guzheng will be a block of wood good for firing the oven !

for info :- there are few ways to touchup ur guzheng... like changing strings and bridges....sound will improve better... !
say after u completes ur G2 change ur strings, G3 change ur turtle nails to groove ones and say mayb G5 change the briges..
then finally G7-G8 change ur guzheng...


faceless :- bila pi havoc again ? tis time in chili KLCC... cheaper .1pint free another pint ....mayb during Empire rehearsal ... LOL !

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Added on November 20, 2010, 12:45 ambefore u play 寒鸭戏水 & 雪山春晓 u need to clear off 战台风.... u think ur mentor will teach u so easy without u kow tow to him !

tis is good ...



This is G8 song. The 1st 6:30 is she teaches u how to play... then the rest is the song... nice.
Empire : the 2nd clip is for u band.

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Added on November 20, 2010, 8:51 amdone a few rounds searchin thru youtube but couldn't find one purely done by guzheng.... mayb later i go into youku.com
and dig.... there got lots of goodies but the bad thing is it's in MANDARIN again.

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Added on November 20, 2010, 9:09 pm

The lady playin the song is Carol aka Yukina.

KLLEE83 : ur guzheng ok wat....

This post has been edited by subangman: Nov 20 2010, 09:09 PM

Definitely it won't be a vast changes after putting in the good strings or the excellent bridges but at least the best affort been made to it.
If miracle can be produced then u and me dun need to go for SB#10A or #10B ... save $ and we can 'tanni' a long long time.

This wed... i yet to know my sch. yet... keep in touch.

So now u r his pet student alridi so time to suck all out from the oldman before he change his mind.. mayb u need to do a tea ceremony
but instead or using chinese tea use St James Gate.... LOL !

u r right... tis Carol is the same Carol from Sound of Asia. ..... Carol Chang. Nice & sincere lady.

From the international forums I managed to make some frd... Vi-Ann, David, Yukina , etc... few outspoken guzheng master.

Bru... me 100% sure attend! why ? u wan to sell/give away my BOX A tickets to 'someone' ???

we meet @ St James Gate lar for pre-concert drinks like gala nites .. just tis time no need black bowtie only !

I just got back from Kuala Tahan Taman Negara.... sori to let u know ... ur erhu soundboard tarak stock lagi... lampan/kerai/kelah ada !

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Added on November 26, 2010, 10:22 pmwaahh... Empire bru.. u learn the trick alridi... full dress rehearsal for photo & video clips for future profile.

bling bling dress where got cheap wan... they are like ballroom / latin dress... more bling bling more heavy & $$$ !

my gals bling bling dresses cost me a BOMB ! almost can buy a SB#10B .. dress need to change every 2-3 performance / competition, SB will
last donkey years even if the passion runs dry .. can use as fire wood inside oven !

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Added on November 26, 2010, 10:31 pmMei-mei and her Jie jie happily bangin it during their previous rehearsal there, in fact it's better than Shiguru II but the price is another matter.

U should try the full concerto harp.... another beauty...

This post has been edited by subangman: Nov 26 2010, 10:35 PM

u seen their bajus ... sometimes the price of those bling bling is exorbitant.. espeacially when using Swarovski.

Bru : u must try the harp... I am not sure about u , mei mei will loves it. .. ah pa

I most likely will be there around 3pm+ wit my gals.... they go 'kai-kai'; ah pa go havoc.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=172...173651329321205

Bru ... now into Martini alridi.. upgrade. LOL !

Empire :- Enjoyed the performance veri much esp. ur angels and tat kwai loh.


P/S :- Sori we were not be able to join u after tat nite due to some last min. surprises by my gals dancin partners..., *sigh*

yeah... u managed to turn the MPO from a rigid hall to a fun hall.

I am aware of tis competition for sometime alridi.

Mei mei not attending tis as few of her group members busy with other personal stuff.
In addition she is busy with her latin silver grade test.. as well as the 10th Jan dancesport competition ; ballroom & latin... *sigh*

She will be attending the March 2nd Malaysia Open Guzheng solo competition..... i will post the details here later.

http://www.guzheng.com.my/gcmr2.html



This post has been edited by subangman: Dec 16 2010, 12:59 PM

Well yong1990... i guess u r a 20yrs old now. Pls try to read from the begining of this thread (page 1 to max. say 8-10) enough info
for u to know a little bit here and there regarding learning guzheng in klang valley.
Its not tat i am not willing to write those info here...
i think i am getting veri 'cheong hey' alridi and confirming myself an old cina ah pek if i keep on repeat writing the same
old stuff over & over again eventhough i'm just in my mid forties.... LOL!

when u still cannot find wat u really needs to know ...then shoot and I help u amicably.

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Added on December 20, 2010, 1:58 pmwhy stop ? let the culture and knowledge flows to the next and future generations.....

if you dun like exam orintated like myself just play it for fun.... *myself is the laziest music learner but I won't quit... just hibernate until my spring*

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Added on December 20, 2010, 2:15 pmEmpire :- for tis I agree with brudder Faceless.... well it's just like learning piano. Some will say just buy a keyboard and start learning from it until
the so call "feel' arrives then only get a piano.... *sigh*

My 2sen opinion is; attend the class 1st... say 1mth or 2 for as if a courtship ... when ready or "love is in the air " get a full scale guzheng
and start of the commitment with speak softly love.

To buy wat sort of guzheng ... is another quest mark... 'how deep is ur love and the pockets'.

There is no such thing as right or wrong ....like a relationship between a man and a woman... just try to keep the eternal flame burning.

Well today i am getting veri 'cheong hey' again.... i think its time for me to call off for the day now... Manic monday and time for a nice
pint of St James gate near my office. "one package 4full pints just RM50 + kacang putih"... !


P/S :- Faceless ... u intend to go for the 2nd Malaysia Guzheng competition in march; bru ?

This post has been edited by subangman: Dec 20 2010, 02:31 PM

HAHAHAHA..... .
Our normal diet is made from hops, malt and yeast very healthy one and low calories one.
anything on top of it shall consider as luxury alridi...

I thought normally gals like low calories diet ..

the nearest to ur place is in fact in PJS10... hunt for CCMA. or the other way... Magnum 4D ok... just next to it the staircase on top
1st & 2nd floor there is a chinese instrument centre.
Lessons can be obtained from here. In fact this is the place where the held the CCOM exam.

Else next place; Taipan USJ ... just take a bus. Nearby also.

or Catholik High School in PJ... Jalan Gasing.

If u wan details just PM me..... For info. I'm not the teacher .... i am just a drunkard cina ah pek who loves an Irish drink.

yangqin yes.... pipa not sure... *why no magic words... wat happened to the youngster nowadays?*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA.....

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Added on January 6, 2011, 10:40 pm... if we really observed thru all the postins in the entire lowyat forum ...the uses of the magic words are seldom .. mayb we should put the
blame to the "new" education system ... wat type of moral subject been educated to them ? or mayb due to it's an exam subject .. so after exam
no need to practice moral ..... pass alridi meh !

only those who didn't sat for moral exam.. need to practice moral as not been educated in school last time.... ! Hahahahaha

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Added on January 6, 2011, 10:42 pmpls check your PM box.. Tha. else if you are not familiar with the command in postin photos pls let me know, i will send you my email add.

else just post it here..

Type of guzheng: 21 strings or 23 strings?
Origin :- if u know ... Dun huang from Shanghai, Zhuque from Xian, Tianyi from Yangzhao, etc
Model : if u know

pls refrain from selling to shops as they will heck the price to dirt cheap..... and not worth selling at all....

if the guzheng is normal one i am sure there will be beginners willing to buy...... if its a one we can talk.



This post has been edited by subangman: Jan 6 2011, 10:59 PM

the best is post the photo here... we can almost determine wat sort of guzheng it is...

'Unkel' faceless is right.... ask them... and try to lure them to the instrument via performances, video clips, concerts, etc.

never forced them else they won't enjoy it thus the passion won't last.

while a good mentor do helps alot .