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 Studying in Australia (V 3.1), Please use proper English

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Tamsin
post Aug 6 2010, 07:20 PM

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My younger sister will be studying in high school there,how is the education system like?
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QUOTE(0Celeste0 @ Aug 5 2010, 07:56 AM)
A lot of people complained that Peter didn't return the bond or charged them unreasonably. Some girls said he interrupted their privacy. He doesn't follow the rules and regulations in Vic and no bond lodgement has been done. Martin charged 600 for furniture deposit and didn't keep the room as promised even though deposit had been placed. However, he did return the deposit. It's better to deal with malaysian or local people.
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Regardless, it is still a very bad idea a) not lodging a bond with the RTA of the relavent state b) willfully knowing that the landlord you have "doesn't follow the rules and regulations in Vic", or any state for that matter.

I say this because I've seen too many cases where I have to deal with people who entered into accommodation with no written contract, no bond lodgment with the state RTA, rent paid cash in hand, with no way of tracking, and they expect Student Services to help them when they literary end up on the street. And believe me, it is not limited to any group of people. Bad landlords are not limited by race nor skin color.

I've heard all kinds of excuses from "too busy" to "don't understand" by people who try to justify their situation and their lack of positive actions. As much as it sounds noble and morally right that no one deserves to be exploited, if anyone does not help themselves, if anyone doesn't do actions on their part to have the protection tenancy laws in Australia provide, such people deserve to be exploited.

Of course, usually these people I deal with can't see that through their blinkered views and poor command of English, and think I'm "being unhelpful", "in cahoots with the white folks", "anti-Chinese" (despite my genetic makeup!), and wait for it, "racist; only helping his own kind".
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the issues of rentals aside, i find it disturbing to note that there are people who despite having
been in Oz for some years, still have english like this..........


Why do you think, back in 2008, I wrote:
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it is bad enough that (Mainland) Chinese and (India) Indians do not have a good reputation. It is not great when Malaysia consists of, amongst other things, ethnic Chinese and Indians.


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post Aug 7 2010, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 6 2010, 07:15 PM)
the issues of rentals aside, i find it disturbing to note that there are people who despite having
been in Oz for some years, still have english like this.......... hmm.gif
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Dude, if you have problems with my English, do volunteer yourself be a teacher or tutor for free.
I just dont understand why people like you who are snob ass want to compare your superior /k/ tard English in forum. If you don't like what you read; don't read.


Added on August 7, 2010, 8:57 am
QUOTE(0Celeste0 @ Aug 6 2010, 06:14 PM)
Sigh, please do not assume that you know everything sleep.gif
I DID inspect the house before signing the contract.
I declined to meet you, that's my right and freedom. Please do not make any silly comment here to spoil my image.
The only thing I regret is answering some members' questions but ended up with sarcastic comments from OTHER members, zzz...

PS/member Casper, now you should know why I don't really want to post up my comment here -____- People do not ask for further information before shooting me.
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Ah well, just for the sake...spoil my image... laugh.gif
Whatever suits you smile.gif

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post Aug 7 2010, 04:07 PM

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Take a chill pill KVReninem. haya has every right to read whatever is posted on a PUBLIC page.

but i dont think theres a problem with your english tho. for most of us English is just not our first language.

anyways, i read someone asking for room rates near RMIT in the CBD. A friend of mine stays in a 2 bedroom apartment on La Trobe St. for AUD400. I guess thats within your budget if split 3 ways.
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post Aug 8 2010, 09:40 AM

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Hi guys,

Is it possible for me to bring back 42"tv back to Malaysia next year ? Thinking to buy a new tv here in brissie..ermm
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Aug 8 2010, 10:40 AM)
Hi guys,

Is it possible for me to bring back 42"tv back to Malaysia next year ? Thinking to buy a new tv here in brissie..ermm
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possible, but you got to use extra size baggage counter...
but you able to claim TRS. Saw one Aussie bought back 40 inch LCD TV back from -no idea where-
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Aug 8 2010, 09:50 AM)
possible, but you got to use extra size baggage counter...
but you able to claim TRS. Saw one Aussie bought back 40 inch LCD TV back from -no idea where-
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I dont think im gonna claim the TRS since i will buy the tv in 1 month time.Brissie so bored..Ouh,can i use cargo to ship my tv back ? Do u have any info on that ? thanks.
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post Aug 8 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Aug 8 2010, 11:02 AM)
I dont think im gonna claim the TRS since i will buy the tv in 1 month time.Brissie so bored..Ouh,can i use cargo to ship my tv back ? Do u have any info on that ? thanks.
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Why not claim the TRS? hmm.gif
Are you doing charity to Aus govt?

I`m not really sure about cargo worth the cost shipping back when you can get cheaper in Malaysia.
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post Aug 8 2010, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Aug 8 2010, 12:15 PM)
Why not claim the TRS? hmm.gif 
Are you doing charity to Aus govt?
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Maybe its the conditions attached to claiming the TRS?
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To claim a refund you must:

    * Spend $300 (GST inclusive) or more in the one store and get a single tax invoice
    * Buy goods no more than 30 days before departure
    * Wear or carry the goods on board the aircraft or ship and present them along with your original tax invoice, passport and international boarding pass to a Customs Officer at a TRS facility
    * Claims at airports are available up to 30 minutes prior to the scheduled departure of your flight.
    * Claims at seaports should be made no earlier than 4 hours and no later than 1 hour prior to the scheduled departure time of the vessel.

http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4646.asp

I'm not entirely convinced that buying a TV in Australia is any cheaper than buying it in M'sia. Adding in shipping would probably cancel out any financial advantage. These things are generally standard prices, and don't vary too much across most countries. (That said, a strong AUD does help a bit).


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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2010, 01:24 PM)
Maybe its the conditions attached to claiming the TRS?

http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4646.asp

I'm not entirely convinced that buying a TV in Australia is any cheaper than buying it in M'sia. Adding in shipping would probably cancel out any financial advantage. These things are generally standard prices, and don't vary too much across most countries. (That said, a strong AUD does help a bit).
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these condition are pretty straight forward. All you need is receipt of purchased amount more than A300.
The LCD to be purchase range about A1000 to A1500, that`s more than required & with about A135 refund; you still gain few RM but minus your oversize cargo cost..that's all.
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a question for those who graduated..
u put ur name in last name first then only first name or first name then last name?i mean in ur testamur/cert
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[rant]Gosh, Limeuu isn't kidding about Malaysians who go to English speaking countries, studying in the English medium, who can't string a proper sentence of English.

Its not too bad when they just talk amongst themselves, but when they are asking for help and you can't answer them simply because you do not literary understand what they are asking for, one has to wonder why.

It has nothing to do with being "snobbish", "racist", "spoil your image" or "superior". I mean, people can't help you if they cannot understand your query.

Of course, when the person (badly) asking for help doesn't get an answer, the usual accusations of "being unhelpful", "in cahoots with the white folks", and wait for it, "racist; only helping his own kind" come thick and fast.
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I'll break that query down into 2 parts:
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u put ur name in last name first then only first name

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first name then last name
Come again?

If you really need help, read the front page, where I talk about naming conventions.
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i knew it u will come..

ya, i admit my english not as good as urs..so?
just wondering why take it so serious since this is just forum that u will expected many mistaken grammars/spellings/short form?

and is there any wrong that a poor English Malaysian student like me go to English speaking country to study?

then how about Malaysian student that totally blank about Japanese language and go to Japan to study?

u are free to correct me but you're not and making a "rant" or to be exact, look down on people like me..

i will expect more to come from you..so just give me your long post/statement regarding this post(as u always do)..


p/s: grammar police might look cool but actually not

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australia ? proper english ? you must be kidding. Even British or American say australian english is like a joke.
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 14 2010, 02:14 PM)
i knew it u will come..

ya, i admit my english not as good as urs..so?
just wondering why take it so serious since this is just forum that u will expected many mistaken grammars/spellings/short form?

and is there any wrong that a poor English Malaysian student like me go to English speaking country to study?

then how about Malaysian student that totally blank about Japanese language and go to Japan to study?

u are free to correct me but you're not and making a "rant" or to be exact, look down on people like me..

i will expect more to come from you..so just give me your long post/statement regarding this post(as u always do)..
p/s: grammar police might look cool but actually not

wink.gif
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There is this video in YouTube called "Grammer Nazi" it is made by collegehumor very funny , you all should watch it.

This post has been edited by JasonMania: Aug 14 2010, 03:28 PM
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post Aug 14 2010, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 14 2010, 02:14 PM)
i knew it u will come..

ya, i admit my english not as good as urs..so?
just wondering why take it so serious since this is just forum that u will expected many mistaken grammars/spellings/short form?

and is there any wrong that a poor English Malaysian student like me go to English speaking country to study?

then how about Malaysian student that totally blank about Japanese language and go to Japan to study?

u are free to correct me but you're not and making a "rant" or to be exact, look down on people like me..

i will expect more to come from you..so just give me your long post/statement regarding this post(as u always do)..
p/s: grammar police might look cool but actually not

wink.gif
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Since when respectable ever need to demand respect from others? Only people who like you who has not earn your respect will demand so much just to cover your own mistakes and protect your "min-chi" (face, pride in Cantonese).

QUOTE(kimberly.tyc @ Aug 14 2010, 02:27 PM)
australia ? proper english ? you must be kidding. Even British or American say australian english is like a joke.
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And that gives one an excuse for bad English huh?
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Aug 15 2010, 01:22 AM)
Since when respectable ever need to demand respect from others? Only people who like you who has not earn your respect will demand so much just to cover your own mistakes and protect your "min-chi" (face, pride in Cantonese).
And that gives one an excuse for bad English huh?
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err,hello :knock: :knock:
did i cover any of my mistakes there? and do my post has some meaning to get back the pride?
i admit that was my mistakes and accept it but not with "uncool rants" as i mentioned

please try harder and not to judge me with irrelevant statements shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 14 2010, 11:44 PM)
err,hello :knock: :knock:
did i cover any of my mistakes there? and do my post has some meaning to get back the pride?
i admit that was my mistakes and accept it but not with "uncool rants" as i mentioned

please try harder and not to judge me with irrelevant statements  shakehead.gif
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Because you are not happy that people are able to pinpoint your mistakes SO WELL, that's why.
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post Aug 15 2010, 10:14 AM

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i don't understand some people.........

this is an english language forum..........

it is on studying in australia, an english speaking country (detractors of aussie-speak notwithstanding)...........

most posting here are studying in oz..........

therefore, one would assume that anyone writing and reading this forum/thread would have a reasonable standard of english.......if nothing else, because studying and immersion in an english environment like oz would be stimulation for a reasonably competency in basic communication english........

however, of course some people starts with a very low level of english competency, and we take cognizance of that........as long as one is ever willing to accept corrections and learn from that.....

however, some appears to take pride in their relative english incompetence, and take no effort to correct and improve themselves........even after years in oz........one wonders, how do they get on in oz, and how do they do their academic writings?........

kind of defeats one of the main purpose of studying physically in oz......that is immersion in and learning english.......

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