whats the cheapest 3d tv in stores now? lol

cuz i tot ps3 3d can play on any tv..dam

This post has been edited by UltramanToron: Nov 14 2010, 08:05 PM

Next time give credit where credit is due. We KNOW you didn't write that. At the very least learn how to apply links and [ Quote ] [ /Quote ] in your post before you attempt a cut 'n' paste job in the future.

As for the actual article you DIDN'T quote, OF COURSE you can quote somebody who agrees completely with you. If you quote somebody who didn't, it wouldn't further your argument, would it? Regardless, if you don't believe that 3D will take off, then please don't piss on this thread. You do know that in the past, some people in AVSF believed that DVD could never replace Laserdisc or that HD-DVD would be the standard for HD video, right? RIGHT?

Again, this is about 3D tech. Not about if you like or dislike 3D. Of course if you dislike 3D, then you wouldn't like to discuss 3D tech.

Actually that's not my point. And sounds like you didn't see THAT movie. Sammy's Adventure, while having a decent story, suffered from a bad case of stereography. The director of photography should have guided the audience into seeing what we should be concentrating on instead of having our eyes wander everywhere in the frame. That movie is the first 3D movie that gave me a buzz.

Still somewhere around RM10,000 I believe.

Obviously, you thought wrong.

If you live alone and you like to game in 3D, get a 720p 3D DLP projector with active glasses. DIY your own silver screen. You can watch 3D BDs but only at 720p. Console games are only in 720p as well.


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For your experience what best 3D non-animated movie?
From my experience, animated 3D movie produce best 3D effect compare to non-animated. Not sure it is just mine or other people also experience the same.

It depends on what you mean by "animated". Technically speaking, Avatar is mostly live action performances; the CGI was used to replace the actors but the face and their body movement is theirs.

I thought G-Force was a good, mostly non-animated, movie. And it was a 3D conversion.

EDIT: Forgot that I saw 20-minutes of Tron Legacy. The best 3D non-animated (mostly) movie for now. Best 3D animated is Tangled.


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This post has been edited by writesimply: Nov 16 2010, 02:51 PM

Tangled and Tron is not release yet in Malaysia? How you experience it?

Magik.


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Just tried SONY 3D TV yesterday at Empire Gallery...not sure which model...but there seems to be some problem...still can see double images of some smaller fish swimming...other parts still ok.

Is this normal??

It tried NVIDIA glasses and 3D monitor, they looked perfect when gaming....:hmmm:...

Panasonic 3D TV also got same problem. I still did't notice any problem on Samsung 3D TV.

Knows where got demo set i can try out in PJ/KL?

Yes, it is normal for current gen 3DTVs. I think the occurrence of ghosting depends on the content (encoding) as well as the 3DTV you play. It is not related to 3D BD players, if the player's firmware is up to date.

It must be said that ghosting may not appear with 3D projectors with circular passive systems.
But they're not the size you're looking for?

I've seen ghosting in different spots across all the units I've seen so far. I'm also unfortunate enough to notice the shuttering effect of LCD glasses.

On a separate topic, the Imax theater in Berjaya TS has been converted to a 3D digital theater. Still no word yet which 3D system they are going with.


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Hope they used realD 3D technology instead of dolby 3D. So we'll have choice to select which one are better.

No, just wants to try out the technology. No hurry to buy 3D now. Still way too expensive and the technology is still immature.
(Even the salesguy at the PC shop told me it's not worth to buy the 3D Nvidia now...this guy is driving business away for his boss...LOL...but honest salesman!)

Frankly, sometimes it doesn't really feels like 3D...more like a few layers of 2D in a 3D environment! You know what i mean?

This post has been edited by Matrix: Nov 19 2010, 08:45 AM

Magik like harry potter?

Actually, buying a 3D monitor and glasses for the PC is the best option since PC has more content in terms of 3D games. If you equip the PC with a BD drive, then you can watch 3D BD.

No, not really. Some 3DTVs can do 3D conversion but that's usually not a good idea.

Yeah, something like that.


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Is it true, picture quality on active glass are better than passive glass?

This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 21 2010, 10:48 PM

The quote is half-truth quote. If you're getting only half of vertical resolution, that means you're only getting 510 pixels out of 1080; I assume the horizontal resolution is still 920. There's only ONE 3D technology that does that - XPOL. Xpol uses circular polarization to deliver 3D so you use passive glasses. The difference is the TV/LCD monitor is an Xpol monitor where 510 pixels is showing you left eye content while the other 510 is showing you the right eye content. So far Xpol are used in professional playback monitors (the Thriller scene in This Is It when Michael and crew are watching 3D footage they just shot) as well as 23" PC monitors (you need a special 3D driver which they provide to play game and movies in 3D).

The theory to make Xpol work as a Full HDTV is to double the vertical resolution so that the HDTV is now 1920 x 2160. The TV will take the 3D signal and convert it to 1920x1080 for each eye. 144Hz is the required minimum for the display, which is the same frequency as the RealD 3D in cinemas.

Meanwhile, we're still waiting for RealD to announce the products that will be using their Z-screen technology on flat screen LCDs/plasma/LEDs as well as projectors.


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So your opinion which one are better (PQ) between Active Shutter Glass and Passive Glass?


Vizio already rolling out the first 3D TV with passive glass for US market. And it's not using RealD 3D or Dolby 3D. In house technology maybe. It price just USD3699 for 65inch LED screen. Quiet interesting huh

This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 22 2010, 12:16 AM

For consistency, passive glasses. Active shutters work but the drawback are the price of the glasses, and that I can still see the shuttering of the LCD.

You mean this Vizio TV? If you look at the tech specs it says:
Xpol tech working here since Full HD 3D is not supported, but circular polarized glasses are.

Free screening of select 3D movies at GSC Maxx Tuesday and Wednesday. Going to check out Legends of the Guardian and Avatar. Check out their website.


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This post has been edited by writesimply: Nov 22 2010, 12:38 AM

Yeah it Vizio TV. What a different between XPOL and RealD actually? I see JVC 3D TV using XPOL passive polarized panel and can be watch using RealD circular polarized passive glass.

This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 22 2010, 01:07 AM

Both tech uses circular polarized glasses to view content correctly. That's where the similarity ends.

XPOL uses micro-polarizors that polarizes light circularly. The polarizors are about one pixel height and they are on a piece of plastic film laid on top of a standard LCD screen. But the alignment must be exact because one line of polarizors polarizes light for the right eye while the other for the left eye. Since the LCD controls which vertical line gets the right and left eye video, the alignment must be precise. To clarify this further, think of a plastic film you want to stick to a wall. The wall has 1 inch black and white lines running horizontally, and so does the plastic film. If you stick the film to the wall without proper alignment, you end up getting a black wall, a white wall or half and half. Again, the micro-polarizors for XPOL are one pixel height but they do not require power at all.

For RealD 3D cinema application (no home version exist yet), the polarizor is an LCD screen placed in front of the lens of the projector. Called the Z-screen, it polarizes light for left and right eyes. The digital projector which must show the right eye info just as the Z-screen is polarizing light for the right eye. So the Z-screen and projector must be in sync. The Z-screen itself has only one pixel which is the entire panel, just like how in active glasses, the entire left eye panel is one pixel. The Z-screen obviously uses electricity.

For RealD tech to work at home, they need to make a plastic film that can polarizes light. It has to be a OTFT or OFET film because two LCD panels would make the 3D HDTV too heavy and consume too much electricity. These films are available now - in fact, Sony made a rollable 4.1" OLED display - but to make one that can achieve a minimum of 144Hz, that minimize color and brightness loss, as well as being relatively cheap are the barriers to be broken. Once this can be achieved, then 3D monitors and HDTVs are going to be everywhere. People will buy sunglasses and regular glasses with built-in 3D polarizers.


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