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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V21, ~.~ Thuban & SPI 32M Season.

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post Jan 29 2010, 01:25 AM

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still capped at 1.61ghz.

ok am running the AMD overdrive auto clock now. looks like longer than i expected. take a nap first la biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 02:21 AM

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I thought want to ask how to OC my 955BE.. since someone edi going on with 965BE.. I'll just keep stalking this thread tongue.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Jan 29 2010, 01:25 AM)
still capped at 1.61ghz.

ok am running the AMD overdrive auto clock now. looks like longer than i expected. take a nap first la  biggrin.gif
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u will not get a optimum result with that...u will get a a non-stress clock which is might not stable..+ excess amount of vcore added..and for sure that is not the max clock for the vcore added...
OC urself..

about the clock @ 1.6ghz..how about set the multiplier manually? set at x17 at ur bios...
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555BE spotted... from hikari ... B2B order ... anyone?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1001899

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wow quite a good price. makes me very much interested in playing amd. no need invest in so expensive rams thumbup.gif
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headache and fun always in amd...
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post Jan 29 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:20 AM)
sorry i am new to overclocking arena. just bought:

1- a phenom II x4 965 (said it was 3.4ghz, but properties showed 1.61ghz) what happen?
2- gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P
3- Corsair value ram 1333 2gbx2
4- corsair hx850w PSU
5- CM v8 replacing stock AMD HSF
6- Pair of xfx radeon HD5770
7- 2 wd green carviar 1tb HDDs

put inside HAF

i was wondering why i got 1.61ghz instead of 3.4ghz mentioned in the pricelist, receipt.

i wanted to oc but dunno where to start

please help me  icon_question.gif
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nice rig there mate. thumbup.gif

ya bios is kinda old, f7 was great for my x2 before, but they say f3l is solid for real quad core. do give it a try... wink.gif

i always like to encourage htt oc eventhou there's not much performance gained thru it. and i know u have a BE chip there, some mite say why bothered while u have unlocked cpu multi. u can just simply crank up d cpu, htt (if needed) or even d cpu-nb multi & whack 'em w/ volts to make 'em stable, as simple as that. but by doin so (playin w/ htt), users tend to know how to make d best outta their components (clock speed, ram & cpu-nb). i'm not askin u to try insane htt oc like 3xx or higher, but i reckon a 250 htt oc or slightly higher/lower won't hurt seriously. nod.gif



cputweakin:


1. disable those power saving feature as mentioned by sir antonio (c1e, c&q).
2. set ram divider @ 1333/1066 (from what i remember fxt doesn't like 1600 that much)
3. set cpu clock 200~300MHz (play w/ cpu multi only) higher than stock w/o touchin any voltage.
4. prime it (blend test), if stable, go higher (again higher multi). if not, increase vcore. keep repeatin until temp & volt is outta comfort zone (load temp > 55, vcore > 1.4/1.45v for me for 24/7 setup)
5. 965BE should be able to do 3.7/8GHz for 24/7 (that if u need that much of processin power)


ram tweakin:

1. set htt multi & cpu-nb @ 8x, cpu multi @ 13/14, vnb & vhtt @ 1.3v
2. set major timing @ 8-8-8-x-x (refer to timing table of ya ram in cpu-z), it is d loosest i'd go. cas 6/7 is preferred but not a realistic target for value unless ya ram is d9/elpida inside.
3. use memtest (dos based, press esc, 1 > 3 > 8 *credits to sir antonio for enlightenin me) to test d ram by setting higher htt, if ur on 1333 ram divider, u can try to play w/ htt 220~250, should be doable but depends on what chippies are used on ya corsair value. voltage wise i'd wouldn't advise to go above 1.9v for long hour of stress.
4. if memtest ok, go into windows & test w/ prime (blend). add vdimm bit by bit, by usin aod can save u some time to reboots.
5. timing wise i couldn't help much as i'm not so gud in ram tweakin. u can use cpu-tweaker to adjust main/sub timings but i'd say leave to main timing alone coz most of d time they dun like to be adjusted "on d fly" especially when u try to tighten 'em.

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- qimonda doesn't like tight timin + high volt, they comfortable @ cas 9, hoverin @ 16xx

- elpida (non hyper/bbse, if u get either these on ya corsair value, go buy toto coz it's like a miracle  tongue.gif ) maxout @ 14xx, but timing definitely tighter. cas 7 was doable back then

- others (no idea as i haven try others aprt from those mentioned)



cpu-nb (a.k.a) imc tweakin:


1. once u know d mileage of ya ram, try to find d max cpu-nb (a.k.a imc) freq by just using d same setting from ram tweakin. increase imc multi by
2x/3x higher. prime (again, blend test) it, if stable, increase again, if not, add juices. unlike cpu tweakin, imc mileage discovery could be abit tricky. beside addin vimc, addin vcore mite help sometimes.
2. c3 should be able to do 2.8~3.0GHz (or more) for 24/7, voltage wise not so sure but i think should be safe ~1.4v (+/- 0.5v)


rojak tweakin (cpu clock + ram & imc freq):


1. now u know d max clock ya chip can take, max freq d ram (so do timing) & d imc can handle, try to find d sweet spot for all 3. as simple as that (sounds simple but not to me).
2. try to have more patience.

that's what i can think off now, otais pls correct me if i missed out anything/misleadin somewhere. i'm old & not havin enuf sleep, that's why i'm blur most of d time... especially in office... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jan 29 2010, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:20 AM)
sorry i am new to overclocking arena. just bought:

1- a phenom II x4 965 (said it was 3.4ghz, but properties showed 1.61ghz) what happen?
2- gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P
3- Corsair value ram 1333 2gbx2
4- corsair hx850w PSU
5- CM v8 replacing stock AMD HSF
6- Pair of xfx radeon HD5770
7- 2 wd green carviar 1tb HDDs

put inside HAF

i was wondering why i got 1.61ghz instead of 3.4ghz mentioned in the pricelist, receipt.

i wanted to oc but dunno where to start

please help me  icon_question.gif
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bro, we have same proc and mobo, but urs must b CE rite? thumbup.gif
1st thing u must do is update the bios, last time i oso have same prob and after update it,
can get 3.4Ghz 4sure! nod.gif
OC?i dunno laugh.gif


Added on January 29, 2010, 10:21 am
QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Jan 29 2010, 01:25 AM)
still capped at 1.61ghz.

ok am running the AMD overdrive auto clock now. looks like longer than i expected. take a nap first la  biggrin.gif
*
no matter what setting u do in AOD, u still get 1.6ghz if bios no updated! icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by Dura-Ace: Jan 29 2010, 10:21 AM
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 29 2010, 10:17 AM)
bro, we have same proc and mobo, but urs must b CE rite? thumbup.gif
1st thing u must do is update the bios, last time i oso have same prob and  after update it,
can get 3.4Ghz 4sure! nod.gif
OC?i dunno laugh.gif
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tipu! blush.gif

u one of the most ferocious participant in pi challange~ biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 29 2010, 10:17 AM)
bro, we have same proc and mobo, but urs must b CE rite? thumbup.gif
1st thing u must do is update the bios, last time i oso have same prob and  after update it,
can get 3.4Ghz 4sure! nod.gif
OC?i dunno laugh.gif


Added on January 29, 2010, 10:21 am

no matter what setting u do in AOD, u still get 1.6ghz if bios no updated! icon_rolleyes.gif
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CE or C3 bro? laugh.gif
As uzer said, penipooo.. Donno oc but actively in the SuperPi challenge laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 29 2010, 10:45 AM)
CE or C3 bro? laugh.gif
As uzer said, penipooo.. Donno oc but actively in the SuperPi challenge laugh.gif tongue.gif
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olang muda mah... d hunger for challenges is there, unlike us bro, dah pencen (for me) or ampir pencen (for u but i doubt so tongue.gif )... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jan 29 2010, 10:59 AM)
olang muda mah... d hunger for challenges is there, unlike us bro, dah pencen (for me) or ampir pencen (for u but i doubt so tongue.gif )...  laugh.gif
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Miahahahaha, its true lah, untill i'm able to purged myself of the needs to play PC games i can never pencen fully laugh.gif
Sooo can accept ler haf pencen laugh.gif tongue.gif
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Hohoho...hello all...just wanted to ask...IN Super Pi 32M, why my score a bit lower when use CPU:RAM of 300:600 (19m 31s) compared to 240:640 (19m 19s)?

I noob at FSB OC...BTW, my rig izz

AMD PII X4 955BE C3 (1.385V) OC to 3.6GHz for HWBot challenge (underclock most of the time)
Xigmatek Delta Scorpion (Red Scorpion but fan change to FB1212EHE @5V)
MSI 770-C45
OCZ DDR3 1333MHz 7-7-7-20 1T (1.76V/1.84V)
WDC Black 1TB + WDC Blue 500GB
2 IDE optical drive
CM Extreme Power Plus 500W
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super pi depend on ram timing and freq.. not based on what so called FSB (in amd, doesn't exist that term... use HTT for that) HTT doesn't effect in super pi..
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So means kena up lagi la ram speed....wah..need to try oc to 1600 are lor...
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yup... no point to raise up ur HTT... play with combination HTT x Multi..
and hit the ram freq as high as u can ..with good timing for sure able to get the better result
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Erm...sorry if considered spoonfeeding (as Goldfries mentioned somewhere), but how high usually htt speed can go (for AMD 770, that is tongue.gif)

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post Jan 29 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 29 2010, 03:37 AM)
u will not get a optimum result with that...u will get a a non-stress clock which is might not stable..+ excess amount of vcore added..and for sure that is not the max clock for the vcore added...
OC urself..

about the clock @ 1.6ghz..how about set the multiplier manually? set at x17 at ur bios...
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will try i later on when i go home

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jan 29 2010, 10:57 AM)
nice rig there mate.  thumbup.gif

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1. disable those power saving feature as mentioned by sir antonio (c1e, c&q).
2. set ram divider @ 1333/1066 (from what i remember fxt doesn't like 1600 that much)
3. set cpu clock 200~300MHz (play w/ cpu multi only) higher than stock w/o touchin any voltage.
4. prime it (blend test), if stable, go higher (again higher multi). if not, increase vcore. keep repeatin until temp & volt is outta comfort zone (load temp > 55, vcore > 1.4/1.45v for me for 24/7 setup)
5. 965BE should be able to do 3.7/8GHz for 24/7 (that if u need that much of processin power)
ram tweakin:

1. set htt multi & cpu-nb @ 8x, cpu multi @ 13/14, vnb & vhtt @ 1.3v
2. set major timing @ 8-8-8-x-x (refer to timing table of ya ram in cpu-z), it is d loosest i'd go. cas 6/7 is preferred but not a realistic target for value unless ya ram is d9/elpida inside.
3. use memtest (dos based, press esc, 1 > 3 > 8 *credits to sir antonio for enlightenin me) to test d ram by setting higher htt, if ur on 1333 ram divider, u can try to play w/ htt 220~250, should be doable but depends on what chippies are used on ya corsair value. voltage wise i'd wouldn't advise to go above 1.9v for long hour of stress.
4. if memtest ok, go into windows & test w/ prime (blend). add vdimm bit by bit, by usin aod can save u some time to reboots.
5. timing wise i couldn't help much as i'm not so gud in ram tweakin. u can use cpu-tweaker to adjust main/sub timings but i'd say leave to main timing alone coz most of d time they dun like to be adjusted "on d fly" especially when u try to tighten 'em.

cpu-nb (a.k.a) imc tweakin:


1. once u know d mileage of ya ram, try to find d max cpu-nb (a.k.a imc) freq by just using d same setting from ram tweakin. increase imc multi by
2x/3x higher. prime (again, blend test) it, if stable, increase again, if not, add juices. unlike cpu tweakin, imc mileage discovery could be abit tricky. beside addin vimc, addin vcore mite help sometimes.
2. c3 should be able to do 2.8~3.0GHz (or more) for 24/7, voltage wise not so sure but i think should be safe ~1.4v (+/- 0.5v)


rojak tweakin (cpu clock + ram & imc freq):


1. now u know d max clock ya chip can take, max freq d ram (so do timing) & d imc can handle, try to find d sweet spot for all 3. as simple as that (sounds simple but not to me).
2. try to have more patience.

that's what i can think off now, otais pls correct me if i missed out anything/misleadin somewhere. i'm old & not havin enuf sleep, that's why i'm blur most of d time... especially in office...  laugh.gif
*
woah this is nice dude. i will try it later

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 29 2010, 11:17 AM)
bro, we have same proc and mobo, but urs must b CE rite? thumbup.gif
1st thing u must do is update the bios, last time i oso have same prob and  after update it,
can get 3.4Ghz 4sure! nod.gif
OC?i dunno laugh.gif


Added on January 29, 2010, 10:21 am

no matter what setting u do in AOD, u still get 1.6ghz if bios no updated! icon_rolleyes.gif
*
bios update? which one better> gigabyte or amd site?
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:23 PM)
will try i later on when i go home
woah this is nice dude. i will try it later
bios update? which one better> gigabyte or amd site?
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Bios update need to download from the mobo manufacturer website la bro.. Mana ada AMD kuarkan bios update laugh.gif
Look for the specific mobo model ur using then look under bios download smile.gif

This post has been edited by cloudwan: Jan 29 2010, 12:26 PM
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 29 2010, 01:25 PM)
Bios update need to download from the mobo manufacturer website la bro.. Mana ada AMD kuarkan bios update laugh.gif
Look for the specific mobo model ur using then look under bios download smile.gif
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sorry bro. didn't know. i thought chipset 790 got special download site. thanks btw ya

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