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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V21, ~.~ Thuban & SPI 32M Season.

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post Jan 29 2010, 12:20 AM

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sorry i am new to overclocking arena. just bought:

1- a phenom II x4 965 (said it was 3.4ghz, but properties showed 1.61ghz) what happen?
2- gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P
3- Corsair value ram 1333 2gbx2
4- corsair hx850w PSU
5- CM v8 replacing stock AMD HSF
6- Pair of xfx radeon HD5770
7- 2 wd green carviar 1tb HDDs

put inside HAF

i was wondering why i got 1.61ghz instead of 3.4ghz mentioned in the pricelist, receipt.

i wanted to oc but dunno where to start

please help me icon_question.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 29 2010, 01:23 AM)
^ use wat window? go to bios and disable the Cool and Quiet.
if lazy,just make the power management to max performance (in windows)
oc, read 1st page for guides...
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owh i see.
sorry i am new to this oc as i told u.
let me try that 1st
thanks

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Jan 29 2010, 01:23 AM)
1. Read guide at the FP. It helps alot.
2. You get 1.61ghz because you probably on the Cool&Quiet.
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any tips on getting it higher? thanks
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Jan 29 2010, 01:31 AM)
965 is BE. So you just increase the multiplier. After that stress it to check whether it's stable or not.
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i don't know where to start from the bios itself too many option to be changed

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 29 2010, 01:32 AM)
@shah_ho_nam2

getting it higher? u started OC? try OC ur proc using the multi 1st...try to get the highest with the stock volt (set manually instead leave it auto)
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just now i set to 212x15 > stable.. but when i change the HT and x16. pc can't be turned on anymore. i plug out the 24pin. then plug it back. SAFE.. then i thought of getting some help here. sorry ya for disturbing your time
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(dafreak @ Jan 29 2010, 01:41 AM)
just disable Cool'n'quiet in the bios and you will get the rated clock speed

For OCing you could use amd overdrive within windows as a start, play around with the multiplier etc
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disable cnq already. but the speed still the same. anyway i should try out overdrive as you said. let me dl it 1st

owh ya i am ni win7 64bit. will post the cpuz later

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Jan 29 2010, 01:42 AM)
Thats why we recommend you to read some guide before start overclocking smile.gif
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am sorry. am reading it. btw what u want me to do with super pi?what to calculate and how much u want me to calculate?

am downloading amd overdrive 31

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post Jan 29 2010, 12:49 AM

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here you go, my specs

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please help

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post Jan 29 2010, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Jan 29 2010, 01:58 AM)
Firstly go into bios find a phrase called "Cool & Quiet" ...dun put On or Auto, just set at "Off"

Secondly find a three letter combo called C1E, disable it also...

Now go inside windows 7 and go into Power Option... Power option is located in the Control Panel...

Look for High Performance or Always On settings...select it and press ok...

Look at CPU-z, does it change ur CPU speed?

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Added on January 29, 2010, 12:59 am
Firstly go into bios find a phrase called "Cool & Quiet" ...dun put On or Auto, just set at "Off"

Secondly find a three letter combo called C1E, disable it also...

Now go inside windows 7 and go into Power Option... Power option is located in the Control Panel...

Look for High Performance or Always On settings...select it and press ok...

Look at CPU-z, does it change ur CPU speed?

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give me 5 minutes

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post Jan 29 2010, 01:25 AM

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still capped at 1.61ghz.

ok am running the AMD overdrive auto clock now. looks like longer than i expected. take a nap first la biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 29 2010, 03:37 AM)
u will not get a optimum result with that...u will get a a non-stress clock which is might not stable..+ excess amount of vcore added..and for sure that is not the max clock for the vcore added...
OC urself..

about the clock @ 1.6ghz..how about set the multiplier manually? set at x17 at ur bios...
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will try i later on when i go home

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jan 29 2010, 10:57 AM)
nice rig there mate.  thumbup.gif

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1. disable those power saving feature as mentioned by sir antonio (c1e, c&q).
2. set ram divider @ 1333/1066 (from what i remember fxt doesn't like 1600 that much)
3. set cpu clock 200~300MHz (play w/ cpu multi only) higher than stock w/o touchin any voltage.
4. prime it (blend test), if stable, go higher (again higher multi). if not, increase vcore. keep repeatin until temp & volt is outta comfort zone (load temp > 55, vcore > 1.4/1.45v for me for 24/7 setup)
5. 965BE should be able to do 3.7/8GHz for 24/7 (that if u need that much of processin power)
ram tweakin:

1. set htt multi & cpu-nb @ 8x, cpu multi @ 13/14, vnb & vhtt @ 1.3v
2. set major timing @ 8-8-8-x-x (refer to timing table of ya ram in cpu-z), it is d loosest i'd go. cas 6/7 is preferred but not a realistic target for value unless ya ram is d9/elpida inside.
3. use memtest (dos based, press esc, 1 > 3 > 8 *credits to sir antonio for enlightenin me) to test d ram by setting higher htt, if ur on 1333 ram divider, u can try to play w/ htt 220~250, should be doable but depends on what chippies are used on ya corsair value. voltage wise i'd wouldn't advise to go above 1.9v for long hour of stress.
4. if memtest ok, go into windows & test w/ prime (blend). add vdimm bit by bit, by usin aod can save u some time to reboots.
5. timing wise i couldn't help much as i'm not so gud in ram tweakin. u can use cpu-tweaker to adjust main/sub timings but i'd say leave to main timing alone coz most of d time they dun like to be adjusted "on d fly" especially when u try to tighten 'em.

cpu-nb (a.k.a) imc tweakin:


1. once u know d mileage of ya ram, try to find d max cpu-nb (a.k.a imc) freq by just using d same setting from ram tweakin. increase imc multi by
2x/3x higher. prime (again, blend test) it, if stable, increase again, if not, add juices. unlike cpu tweakin, imc mileage discovery could be abit tricky. beside addin vimc, addin vcore mite help sometimes.
2. c3 should be able to do 2.8~3.0GHz (or more) for 24/7, voltage wise not so sure but i think should be safe ~1.4v (+/- 0.5v)


rojak tweakin (cpu clock + ram & imc freq):


1. now u know d max clock ya chip can take, max freq d ram (so do timing) & d imc can handle, try to find d sweet spot for all 3. as simple as that (sounds simple but not to me).
2. try to have more patience.

that's what i can think off now, otais pls correct me if i missed out anything/misleadin somewhere. i'm old & not havin enuf sleep, that's why i'm blur most of d time... especially in office...  laugh.gif
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woah this is nice dude. i will try it later

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 29 2010, 11:17 AM)
bro, we have same proc and mobo, but urs must b CE rite? thumbup.gif
1st thing u must do is update the bios, last time i oso have same prob and  after update it,
can get 3.4Ghz 4sure! nod.gif
OC?i dunno laugh.gif


Added on January 29, 2010, 10:21 am

no matter what setting u do in AOD, u still get 1.6ghz if bios no updated! icon_rolleyes.gif
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bios update? which one better> gigabyte or amd site?
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 29 2010, 01:25 PM)
Bios update need to download from the mobo manufacturer website la bro.. Mana ada AMD kuarkan bios update laugh.gif
Look for the specific mobo model ur using then look under bios download smile.gif
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sorry bro. didn't know. i thought chipset 790 got special download site. thanks btw ya
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post Jan 29 2010, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 29 2010, 11:17 AM)
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no matter what setting u do in AOD, u still get 1.6ghz if bios no updated! icon_rolleyes.gif
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which one u want me to dl? notworthy.gif

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post Jan 29 2010, 01:37 PM

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nice. it's already stated 3.4ghz. THANKS a lot guys. that's what i want to fix... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

btw i got another rig that got older phenom as well

like this one.

it's an old 9150e

and the other one 9550 series

how much this 9150e can produce?
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post Jan 29 2010, 01:44 PM

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result notworthy.gif notworthy.gif (personally i am glad i come here and ask u guys)

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post Jan 29 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 29 2010, 03:13 PM)
so u got the full speed? and dont trust the windows rating...that is better than nothing...
u can try bench the proc using superpi...

for 9150e...few have it run at 2.6ghz... u can try...pump vcore as u will biggrin.gif
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thank god that 9150e equipped with good HSF. but i couldn't remember the name.

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 29 2010, 03:44 PM)
Good to hear u got ur cpu running full speed bro smile.gif
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thanks a lot guys

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jan 29 2010, 04:14 PM)
Thats not the end of the story yet.You should unleash to potential tongue.gif
Go First page.There are plenty of guides i've posted.

OT: Looks good..many AMD user now tongue.gif
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yeah it's been serving me since the era of ABIT AN7 legendary mobo.

i will list the spec on the other 2 phenom rigs later when i go home.

but i ain't got many games that can stress the CPU so far. maybe sims3 will do
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post Jan 29 2010, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 29 2010, 04:58 PM)
Can die also ler, strike by lightning confirm dai like my old mobo  cry.gif  cry.gif sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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like my old an7. death on the spot due to lightning. damn i missed that system. then migrate to x2 3600 then up again x2 6000 then move to 9150e add another 9650 and the latest addition 965 PII. i guess it's the best for me so far.

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