QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 23 2010, 08:50 PM)
It's stated clearly in their FAQ that they are not accepting any international order currently.Did they promise your buddy in Brunei anything?
The Official Subwoofer Thread v3, Everything you need to know about bass!
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bro ronald... u changing Sub? ur PB13U not even out of the kotak yet er...
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 23 2010, 11:30 PM) Bro, I'm not chaging. I see ported SVS would still win this single Empire.Dual empire would cost a bomb with its freight charges as it's very heavy. It's just that the intro price of USD799 is very tempting. Someone else is considering as well. Added on January 24, 2010, 9:07 am QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 11:36 PM) Taukeh AR, the center speaker belum run in yet.Added on January 24, 2010, 9:09 am QUOTE(pierreye @ Jan 24 2010, 01:24 AM) Thanks bro for the suggestion. Would DHL be more secured? It's like 40:60 now, seeing all the potential hassles. This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Jan 24 2010, 09:18 AM |
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Jan 24 2010, 09:16 AM
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Jan 24 2010, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 24 2010, 09:16 AM) Ha ha bro, bila angkat itu barang?I'm wondering how would these dual opposing drivers of Empire look like? How would be the layout and the placement of the sub? Would the driver be one active and one passive, with so called 'force cancelling configuration'? |
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Jan 24 2010, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 24 2010, 09:16 AM) HS, RJ, ZR.. manyak code ? Added on January 24, 2010, 10:36 am QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 24 2010, 09:04 AM) Bro, I'm not chaging. I see ported SVS would still win this single Empire. secured means? lost? or damaged? depends on packaging also..Dual empire would cost a bomb with its freight charges as it's very heavy. It's just that the intro price of USD799 is very tempting. Someone else is considering as well. Added on January 24, 2010, 9:07 am Taukeh AR, the center speaker belum run in yet. Added on January 24, 2010, 9:09 am Thanks bro for the suggestion. Would DHL be more secured? It's like 40:60 now, seeing all the potential hassles. This post has been edited by ar188: Jan 24 2010, 10:36 AM |
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Jan 24 2010, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 24 2010, 10:35 AM) My concern: lost or damaged... This single Empire would give a good fight to Velo subs since it's sealed type. 300w RMS per 15" driver seems a bit low. It would give very good mid bass and lose out on the low freq extension that SVS subs have. Added on January 28, 2010, 8:00 pmSome pictures on Empire: (the paper look drivers seem a bit cheapo ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Added on January 28, 2010, 8:03 pmThey are shiping now » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on January 28, 2010, 9:37 pmPrice of single empire: Now USD799 Normal price USD1499 http://store.epiksubwoofers.com/ProductDet...oductCode=E-160 Price of dual empire: Now 1499 Normal price USD3000 http://store.epiksubwoofers.com/ProductDet...oductCode=E-162 This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Jan 28 2010, 09:37 PM |
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Feb 7 2010, 10:32 PM
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dual empire no picture subwoofer
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empire pulak....
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I just bought a new SVS PC-12NSD and it is GREAT!!!
I have it placed in the front left corner of my hall, next to the left main speaker. I am contemplating using my old Infinity RS10 sub in the other corner using the second sub preout of my avr. The reason being it's too old and frayed physically at the top corner edges to be sold and storing it seems such a waste, as it's still running well. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. If i do decide to use it, any advise on how to set it up to integrate it with my SVS. |
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Feb 8 2010, 01:15 PM) so expensive meh???? the shipping Added on February 8, 2010, 2:21 pmThe review of the Epik Empire:- QUOTE Here's a review from AVS: Hello! I have lurked here for years and wanted to start out by saying thanks to everybody who posts here. I noticed that yesterday someone mentioned their first impressions of the Empire compared to their sub, and I had the opposite thoughts entirely. So, I really wanted to share my experiences for those of you thinking about getting one. I’m not a pro or expert on measuring or reviews, but have read a lot of forums and reviews before and have had a lot of subs to compare to each other. My room is about 4000 cubic feet. I’ve owned some smaller commercial subwoofers in the past from Polk and Velodyne. Each step up brought me closer to better bass. I upgraded to a Rythmik Audio 15 not too long ago and while I liked it, it still did not have enough output for me. I currently own a pair of MFW-15’s. I got them used for a good price since so many people have had problems with them. I took a chance on them and while they are the best subs I’ve had, I’ve never really been 100% happy with them. They are co-located in one spot for maximum output and the best performance in my room. When I saw the new Empire’s for sale, I just ordered them on gut instinct. They arrived on a pallet. The packaging is fantastic. They are double boxed and shipped in custom cut foam. Even the shipping boxes looked nice when they arrived. No owners manual yet, but Chad said he is working on this. Even so, he walked me through my basic questions on the phone. I can definitely say that the Empire’s are totally amazing subwoofers and are the best I’ve had. They are easily outperforming my AV123 MFW-15’s by a noticeable margin. They are louder, cleaner, punchier and more musical. Everything about their performance is an improvement from what I am used to. The midbass output is INCREDIBLE, just like Epik promised. Things that used to bother me about my MFW-15’s are no longer an issue. I could bottom out my MFW-15’s if I pushed them hard enough. No matter how hard I push the Empire’s, they just stay clean. When a movie plays now I just sit back and relax no matter how crazy the soundtrack gets. My MFW-15’s were also somewhat difficult to dial-in and blend with my main speakers. I struggled with it for a long time. The Empire’s just dropped in with no fuss. The blend is seamless. I took out my dual MFW-15’s to hook up the Empire’s in my room, so I don’t know what they all would have sounded like together. On music, the Empire’s sound quality is also a big upgrade. I can absolutely crank these things on music too. I guess that makes sense since the pair of them have four 15 inch drivers between them! I look at the drivers and it is like they are barely moving on music even at wicked volume levels. It just sounds effortless. Clean jazz recordings like Diana Krall sound SOOOO good through the Empires. They only play what is on the recording and the upright bass sounds like it is in the room. Movies are amazing too with these Empires. The depth charge scene from U-571 felt like it was shaking my room to pieces. The added midbass slam is just as good as the low bass. Iron Man, Finding Nemo, The Incredible Hulk, Fight of the Phoenix are being taken to a new level through these new subs. Anything with that crazy low bass is finding its way into my bluray player. I’m hearing things I never heard before. The sound also seems to keep getting better the more that I play them. They are breaking in NICELY!!! I hear a definite change in the sound of the sealed Empires versus the ported MFW-15’s. Everything sounds tighter on the low end and there is less overhang. It is very crisp and I love the sound!!! The output in every register has also increased noticeably versus my old subs. With some rough measurements I am getting at least 3 dB more on the low end around 20 Hz. When I start using REALLY low test tones below 15 Hz, the MFW-15’s don’t like it. The ports and drivers go crazy and I have to back off. The Empire’s sealed design doesn’t mind the low test tones at all. I can’t really hear anything from the subs with test tones below 20 Hz, but I can feel it and the walls and everything in my room starts rattling. Even at 10 Hz there is something going on down low. As I go up in frequency, the Empire’s start getting WAY louder than the MFW-15’s. And when you start getting above 40 Hz it gets insane. At 80 Hz, ONE Empire is easily louder than BOTH of the MFW-15’s playing together. It measured about 4 dB louder and I basically couldn’t take it anymore it was so loud. With both subwoofers hooked up the max output is totally unreal. Movies that have heavy artillery or explosions now have chest slam thanks to the added output. It is also cool that when you set your hand on an Empire playing really loud, you can’t feel much of anything. The opposite firing drivers are really effective. It definitely has an effect on the sound. All my previous subwoofers shook, so I couldn’t use them as end tables. I probably sound like a broken record, but the clarity and sound of the system is just different now. The dynamics are also transformed. Even at the same volume level as my MFW-15’s, my Empire’s just sound more alive. When I have to occasionally listen at lower levels, this is a nice little bonus. The Empire is definitely heavier than I expected. I liked that the MFW-15’s were a little lighter and easier to move around. I left off the spikes and could push them around on my carpet. I used a dolly to roll the Empire’s around and that ended up working out just fine though. The Empire’s don’t have the same finish quality as the MFW-15’s either. My MFW-15’s are beautiful Cherry veneer. But, you can’t hear the veneer, so I don’t mind. The finish of the Empire’s is better than I expected though. The black finish is smooth and the grills on the sides make it look really nice. The round corners also make it look smaller than it is. I just wanted to tell everybody not to question getting one of these beauties. Epik has a winner here. I am incredibly impressed with the performance and the craftsmanship. Now I get why people on the forums say that you have to hear it to believe it. It’s like a tank, and sounds amazing. I don’t think that they are charging enough for these subwoofers. I would have paid a lot more for them if I knew it was this good. I have never been so happy with an audio component purchase. I took a chance on Epik and I am glad that I did! Their service has been amazing too. Chad really knows how to design a subwoofer and answered all my questions. I will post more about them as I play with them more. I will try to get some pictures up shortly too. A friend of mine agreed to bring over his Hsu ULS-15 to compare with the Empire sometime, so if he brings it over, I can’t wait to hear that too. Sorry that this is so long! I just wanted to share. P.S. At Chad’s (Epik’s owner) request, I bought Terminator Salvation and watched the “gas station scene”. The bass and especially the midbass coming from the Empire during this scene is nothing short of unreal. It was downright scary. Along with all of the explosions, the robot makes this “noise” as it moves around which the Empire’s just crank out. It sounded like my room was being torn apart. Never heard anything quite like that before!! This post has been edited by mpyw: Feb 8 2010, 02:21 PM |
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QUOTE(klimal @ Feb 8 2010, 12:22 PM) I just bought a new SVS PC-12NSD and it is GREAT!!! You may try to use it but I guess that it will struggle big time to keep up with the SVS. You need to tone it down (lower vol than the SVS) and play around with the phase knob. Have to experiment with the placement and setting on the RS10.I have it placed in the front left corner of my hall, next to the left main speaker. I am contemplating using my old Infinity RS10 sub in the other corner using the second sub preout of my avr. The reason being it's too old and frayed physically at the top corner edges to be sold and storing it seems such a waste, as it's still running well. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. If i do decide to use it, any advise on how to set it up to integrate it with my SVS. Added on February 8, 2010, 10:45 pmBtw, SVS PB12-Plus was awarded the 2009 Editors' Choice Award http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/...cont-page4.html Now, it can join the MTS-01 and PB13-Ultra in the same rank; Editors' Choice Award. This post has been edited by htkaki: Feb 8 2010, 10:45 PM |
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QUOTE 2009 Consumer Excellence Award Winners Speakers > Subwoofers Company: Axiom Audio Product: EP800 MSRP: $2,350 www.axiomaudio.com According to Axiom, the EP800 plays louder than most live performances reaching an amazing 125 dB Sound Pressure Level! After personally hearing this sub at their facility almost 2 years ago, we have little doubt about these claims. The Intelligent DSP is said to virtually eliminate distortion. Instead, it tightly controls the signals to the 800-watt power amplifier and two massive 12-inch aluminum drivers with dual 3-inch voice coils to provide you with peak performance making the EP800 virtually unbreakable! With a 13Hz extension, you won't miss any LFE effects. Available in upright configuration or a convenient horizontal configuration that is perfect for under screens or behind couches. If you want the ultimate in pure, subterranean bass, the Epicenter EP800 Intelligent DSP Subwoofer delivers. It's built to last with a 5 year manufacturers warranty to back it up. Review:- ![]() ![]() QUOTE In this graph, there is an 8 dB rolloff to 13 Hz, but the response is otherwise flat from 15 - 75 Hz. I suspect that at least some of the rolloff is due to room effects and unfortunately the BFD is not capable of any sort of equalization below 20 Hz, so my ability tweak that low is nil. (they didn't plan for a sub like the EP800 when they built it!) Just to test this theory, I played a test tone at 13 Hz and turned up the gain manually to see how loud it would go (or how loud I could stand it). When it hit 103 dB at 13 Hz, I decided to give up. (Yes, 103 dB at 13 Hz!) Keep in mind that my gain dial on the back of the 800 isn't even at the halfway mark, but I literally could hear and feel the drywall in the back walls of my theater shaking when going to 103 dB, so I didn't feel like taking it any louder. So, to answer the question above, "Is it Loud?" Yes, it is. ![]() QUOTE The SVS can be tuned to several different modes (10,15,20 Hz, etc.) For this comparison, I'm using the measurements taken from the 10 Hz mode as it seems to most closely resemble the extension of the EP800. Below are the best results I was able to achieve with both subs in my room. The graphs below include the EP600 as well to show a complete comparison between the three. As the graph shows, in my room the EP800 extends its flat response significantly deeper, but it is again important to note that this is likely largely impacted by room effects as I did not have my home theater chairs in the room when I tested the PB13, so this is not an entirely apples to apples comparison. I've seen several frequency response charts that show the SVS playing with only a modest roll off down to 10 Hz, so I believe this chart belies its capabilities to some degree (though you'll note it did have slightly more output at 10 Hz than the 800). ![]() |
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Taukeh mpyw, are you going to get this Axiom?
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