sounds like im in hot soup...........
anyway how to check expiry of warrants? i bought the CB 1...
YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2
YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2
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Nov 28 2010, 08:26 PM
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sounds like im in hot soup...........
anyway how to check expiry of warrants? i bought the CB 1... |
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Nov 28 2010, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(KenYoung @ Nov 28 2010, 08:26 PM) Hi bro, don't worry. This is due to YTL management coverted warrant to its mother share. Since the management have confident on its company growth, as an investor, what are you worry about?Anyway, I have no money in. The CB look very attractive to me now. 0.22 X 2 + 2.15 Mother share stand 2.5 strongly. If I have money i will in this warrant. However, need to be cautious on korea and north korea war...If situation not right, please cut lose. |
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Nov 29 2010, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(ost1007 @ Nov 28 2010, 11:37 PM) Hi bro, don't worry. This is due to YTL management coverted warrant to its mother share. Since the management have confident on its company growth, as an investor, what are you worry about? I am not into this. But i believe CB is some sort of call warrant which is being issued by third party maybe CIMB investment bank and so on. Not issued by YTL. Anyway, I have no money in. The CB look very attractive to me now. 0.22 X 2 + 2.15 Mother share stand 2.5 strongly. If I have money i will in this warrant. However, need to be cautious on korea and north korea war...If situation not right, please cut lose. If you believe that YTL are fundamentally strong why cut loss due to korean war? You should buy more instead. |
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Nov 29 2010, 12:48 PM
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It's been some time since I visited lowyat forum. So how are you darkknight? Still piling up on YTL power for the good prospect of YES launching or disposing them afraid the dividend yield might not be as attractive before?
Anyway, strong performance for YTL Power today despite the red CI. |
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Nov 29 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 29 2010, 10:10 AM) I am not into this. But i believe CB is some sort of call warrant which is being issued by third party maybe CIMB investment bank and so on. Not issued by YTL. If mother share i will hold If you believe that YTL are fundamentally strong why cut loss due to korean war? You should buy more instead. |
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Nov 29 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Nov 29 2010, 01:48 PM) It's been some time since I visited lowyat forum. So how are you darkknight? Still piling up on YTL power for the good prospect of YES launching or disposing them afraid the dividend yield might not be as attractive before? I hold zero ytlp SHARES Anyway, strong performance for YTL Power today despite the red CI. |
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Nov 30 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(ost1007 @ Nov 28 2010, 10:37 PM) Hi bro, don't worry. This is due to YTL management coverted warrant to its mother share. Since the management have confident on its company growth, as an investor, what are you worry about? worry bcoz it dropped 10 cents since i bought about a month ago+! Anyway, I have no money in. The CB look very attractive to me now. 0.22 X 2 + 2.15 Mother share stand 2.5 strongly. If I have money i will in this warrant. However, need to be cautious on korea and north korea war...If situation not right, please cut lose. the warrant i bought, not sure when it will expire. where to check ah, bros? QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 29 2010, 10:10 AM) I am not into this. But i believe CB is some sort of call warrant which is being issued by third party maybe CIMB investment bank and so on. Not issued by YTL. yes i blive its issued by CIMB. how does it make a difference?If you believe that YTL are fundamentally strong why cut loss due to korean war? You should buy more instead. |
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Nov 30 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 29 2010, 03:49 PM) So, you have no any shares of YTLPower on hand? I think you are experience investor. Just a simple question, if economic downturn, you still buying to average your price or you will cut lose? Think carefully oh... else you will crash with the suggestion that you comment as previous thread Added on November 30, 2010, 7:27 pm QUOTE(KenYoung @ Nov 30 2010, 07:15 PM) worry bcoz it dropped 10 cents since i bought about a month ago+! Listing Information & Profile for Structured Warrantsthe warrant i bought, not sure when it will expire. where to check ah, bros? yes i blive its issued by CIMB. how does it make a difference? Instrument Type : Structured Warrants Type of Structured Warrants : Call Warrants Description : European Style Non-Collateralised Cash-Settled Underlying Stock : YTL Power International Berhad Issuer : CIMB Bank Berhad Stock Code : 6742CB Stock Short Name : YTLPOWR-CB ISIN Code: MYL6742CBLA7 Board : Structured Warrants Sector : IPC Initial Listing Information : Listing Date : 29/10/2010 Term Sheet Date : 28/10/2010 Issue Date : 28/10/2010 Issue/ Ask Price : MYR 0.1500 Issue Size in Unit : 50,000,000 Maturity Date : 28/10/2011 Exercise/ Strike/ Conversion Price : MYR 2.1500 Revised Exercise/ Strike/ Conversion Price : MYR 0.0000 Exercise/ Conversion Ratio : 2 : 1 Revised Exercise/ Conversion Ratio : Settlement Type/ Convertible into : Cash Name and contact details of the market maker (if applicable) : CIMB Bank Berhad c/o Equity Derivatives Group 11th Floor Commerce Square Jalan Semantan Damansara Heights 50490 Kuala Lumpur Tel: 03-2084 9942 Fax: 03-2093 6098 Circumstances under which the market maker may not be able to provide quotes (if applicable) : Please refer to Section 5.2 of the Base Prospectus dated 7 May 2010 This post has been edited by ost1007: Nov 30 2010, 07:27 PM |
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Nov 30 2010, 08:53 PM
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Like i said before it is some sort of profit taking as my average buying price only RM 2.00 excluding dividend. I earned more than RM 500 per lot.
I have profited around 100k from YTLP. I have parked my money at arreit to get higher dividend. YTLP yield less than 6% at my selling price. Whereas arreit yield around 8%. Although i am not sure of the future prospect of wimax but at least i am sure that i get higher dividend. Who say i don want to buy YTLP? I want to use my dividend earned to buy back at a lower price only By the way i am not experience investor. I am not qualified as an investor either. Normally i don try to predict on particular stock price movement, what i am more concern is Dividend Yield. This post has been edited by darkknight81: Nov 30 2010, 09:10 PM |
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Dec 1 2010, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 30 2010, 08:53 PM) Like i said before it is some sort of profit taking as my average buying price only RM 2.00 excluding dividend. I earned more than RM 500 per lot. may i know which share can pay high in dividend yield. i agree with your comment. i also more prefer on dividendI have profited around 100k from YTLP. I have parked my money at arreit to get higher dividend. YTLP yield less than 6% at my selling price. Whereas arreit yield around 8%. Although i am not sure of the future prospect of wimax but at least i am sure that i get higher dividend. Who say i don want to buy YTLP? I want to use my dividend earned to buy back at a lower price only By the way i am not experience investor. I am not qualified as an investor either. Normally i don try to predict on particular stock price movement, what i am more concern is Dividend Yield. |
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Dec 1 2010, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 29 2010, 03:49 PM) Ok, but I'm sure you will keep this stock sideline and be prepared to jump in if the price dip lower. Btw, the exercising of the warrants "Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Company’s additional 12,785,070 new ordinary shares of RM0.50 each arising from the aforesaid Exercise will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Friday, 3 December 2010" does drives this YTL Power down a bit. Added on December 1, 2010, 2:52 pm QUOTE(carmentee @ Dec 1 2010, 02:04 PM) may i know which share can pay high in dividend yield. i agree with your comment. i also more prefer on dividend REIT seems to be a good options for you to reap dividend. But don't expect too much capital gain. It's a mutual exclusive thingy, stock with growing potential has little dividends to offer while stock with dividends to offer has very little growth potential. List of REITs in Malaysia with dividend yield. http://mreit.reitdata.com/ This post has been edited by andrewckj: Dec 1 2010, 02:52 PM |
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Dec 1 2010, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Dec 1 2010, 03:48 PM) Ok, but I'm sure you will keep this stock sideline and be prepared to jump in if the price dip lower. I doubt it Btw, the exercising of the warrants "Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Company’s additional 12,785,070 new ordinary shares of RM0.50 each arising from the aforesaid Exercise will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Friday, 3 December 2010" does drives this YTL Power down a bit. Added on December 1, 2010, 2:52 pm REIT seems to be a good options for you to reap dividend. But don't expect too much capital gain. It's a mutual exclusive thingy, stock with growing potential has little dividends to offer while stock with dividends to offer has very little growth potential. List of REITs in Malaysia with dividend yield. http://mreit.reitdata.com/ 1. Pound depreciation 2. EPS diluted due to warrant conversion. (Ventured into wimax with those cash being raised with so many ??? being raised was not fair for us) 3. Renewal of new PPAs with Tenaga so far no news. |
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Dec 3 2010, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 1 2010, 09:06 PM) I doubt it Then you have to wait until next economic crisis or market consolidation 1. Pound depreciation 2. EPS diluted due to warrant conversion. (Ventured into wimax with those cash being raised with so many ??? being raised was not fair for us) 3. Renewal of new PPAs with Tenaga so far no news. Added on December 3, 2010, 12:32 am QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 30 2010, 08:53 PM) Like i said before it is some sort of profit taking as my average buying price only RM 2.00 excluding dividend. I earned more than RM 500 per lot. You are safe trader. I have profited around 100k from YTLP. I have parked my money at arreit to get higher dividend. YTLP yield less than 6% at my selling price. Whereas arreit yield around 8%. Although i am not sure of the future prospect of wimax but at least i am sure that i get higher dividend. Who say i don want to buy YTLP? I want to use my dividend earned to buy back at a lower price only By the way i am not experience investor. I am not qualified as an investor either. Normally i don try to predict on particular stock price movement, what i am more concern is Dividend Yield. This post has been edited by ost1007: Dec 3 2010, 12:32 AM |
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Dec 3 2010, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(ost1007 @ Dec 3 2010, 01:15 AM) Then you have to wait until next economic crisis or market consolidation I am neither a trader nor investor. I just want to make sure my investment give me a good yield. YTLP gave me almost 50% return within 3 years should be quite ok for me already. Instead of collecting 5 -6% yield. I prefer to go for higher yield. Added on December 3, 2010, 12:32 am You are safe trader. If you are really going for long term, you should buy at below RM 2.20 not now brother. For long term should buy on weakness instead of buy on strength. My own opinion lol This post has been edited by darkknight81: Dec 3 2010, 04:34 PM |
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Dec 4 2010, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Dec 1 2010, 02:48 PM) Ok, but I'm sure you will keep this stock sideline and be prepared to jump in if the price dip lower. yeah... i will look into more reit Btw, the exercising of the warrants "Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Company’s additional 12,785,070 new ordinary shares of RM0.50 each arising from the aforesaid Exercise will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Friday, 3 December 2010" does drives this YTL Power down a bit. Added on December 1, 2010, 2:52 pm REIT seems to be a good options for you to reap dividend. But don't expect too much capital gain. It's a mutual exclusive thingy, stock with growing potential has little dividends to offer while stock with dividends to offer has very little growth potential. List of REITs in Malaysia with dividend yield. http://mreit.reitdata.com/ |
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Dec 4 2010, 10:32 AM
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Dec 5 2010, 03:53 PM
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Dec 6 2010, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 30 2010, 08:53 PM) Like i said before it is some sort of profit taking as my average buying price only RM 2.00 excluding dividend. I earned more than RM 500 per lot. How the f*** did you get a ROI of 50% when the dividend yield is 5 to 6%???????I have profited around 100k from YTLP. I have parked my money at arreit to get higher dividend. YTLP yield less than 6% at my selling price. Whereas arreit yield around 8%. Although i am not sure of the future prospect of wimax but at least i am sure that i get higher dividend. Who say i don want to buy YTLP? I want to use my dividend earned to buy back at a lower price only By the way i am not experience investor. I am not qualified as an investor either. Normally i don try to predict on particular stock price movement, what i am more concern is Dividend Yield. |
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Dec 6 2010, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(leiwulong90 @ Dec 6 2010, 03:30 PM) Two questions from me. 1. Do you know such thing as "CAPITAL GAIN" pls refer to dictionary. 2. Who ask you to buy at current price? I start to buy at the price of RM 1.80 This post has been edited by darkknight81: Dec 6 2010, 02:59 PM |
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Dec 8 2010, 10:00 PM
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not much movements for this counter nowadays...not exciting at all.....
they are sitting on so much cash, but very risk adverse to spend or acquire new assets..... also reluctant to give windfall to shareholders.... so what else is there to look out for? As for "Yes", its really disappointing so far.... |
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