is that why mr bokeh (achew) bought a 135mm?

finejava: While it doesn't have as nice bokeh as some other lenses, it's not a show-stopper. Some other lenses score badly in pixel-peeping tests but have great bokeh (the Minolta/Sony 35mm F1.4G is one such example.) Anyway the Zeiss lenses are more about microcontrast, overall contrast and resolution than anything. However it is widely known that your 85mm ZA has the best bokeh of all the ZA lenses. Some people prefer the Minolta 85mm F1.4G's bokeh due to its more painting-like rendering and less contrasty out-of-focus areas. If you've had the Minolta 70-210mm F4 beercan you'd know what I am talking about. However I don't like how the 85mm F1.4G renders out-of-focus highlights, with multiple-colored rings, while the Zeiss is clean, with just one color ring (due to longitudinal chromatic aberration.)

The 24-70mm ZA is of course meant for event coverage for full-frame and is not primarily engineered for portraits. The 85mm and 135mm ZAs are meant to be portrait lenses.

The ultimate bokeh lens of course is the Minolta/Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus. Very very different from any Soft Focus or Defocus Control lenses from any other brand!

noprob: Nice! Been seeing a lot of that since I've been playing NFS: Shift heh.

This post has been edited by albnok: Jan 4 2010, 05:35 PM

hi, newbie here... huhuh~ just got myself the a550, will attend 10 jan 2009 beginners workshop by sony... any members joining?

albnok: aiya...trying to hinder myself from 24-70z...now u just recuperate it back...

btw...anyone have 24-70 by sigma?

This post has been edited by finejava: Jan 4 2010, 05:44 PM

Woots , welcome to the alpha family =)
Nice camera you have there as ur first camera =P

finejava: Many of us have the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro (the older one which is prone to gear stripping.) It looks good on its own but just do not compare it to the Zeiss! Big difference. The newer Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG HSM non-Macro has HSM and is optically much better - most say it stands tall among the OEM 24-70mm F2.8 lenses. However I don't know anybody with this lens and it does cost a fair bit more than the old version.

u start with a splendid dslr... good luck and have a good day shooting...







finejava : dont know who are using it.. but i saw some in wts...

Thanks bro .. i'm still learning too .. We can learn together , hehe
Btw congrates to ur new toy ! glad can contribute to make it real ..

Thanks albnok !

This post has been edited by noprob: Jan 4 2010, 06:02 PM

yeah, i was reading on the 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG HSM vs 24-70mm Zeiss, the review says the zeiss is better than the HSM by bit...and the price is like almost double...so wanna know what do they mean by bit...

Achew have the 2470 before he bought the 135Z leh..

2009? 2010 is it?? haiya....... i went sarawak tat time ad......... cant attend.........

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Added on January 4, 2010, 6:37 pmthx for the advice... i didn write tat.... i think my housemate did it when i was asleep just now.....

This post has been edited by eddybeh: Jan 4 2010, 06:37 PM

ahtsong : How much you got it for le?

CF cards are better than memory sticks is it?

finejave, the test was on crop sensor, i assume on FF another story?

is this the lens which come with the a550 kit? i cant remember but it sounds like the lens i tried on the a550 the other day...

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Added on January 4, 2010, 7:16 pmor may b not.... the price sound a little impossible... 4998 for the whole kit.. and they offered me a free VG as well.... wakaka.... sorry ya... very blur and noob...

This post has been edited by eddybeh: Jan 4 2010, 07:16 PM

heheheh~ thanks guys...

eddybeh: yeh 2010... sorry for the typo... still remember this year is 2009... ahahha~

nashakir: thanks, got it with 18250... i thought of getting the A330/a380 but since just heard that this came out with the CMOS sensor immediately change model... huhuh~

they'd normally bundle the 16-80 zeiss with the A550, definitely not the 24-70...

edit: wait, 5k for A550 with lens and VG? a bit too steep for it to be 16-80

This post has been edited by lwliam: Jan 4 2010, 07:49 PM

thx for correcting...

yea...was "hired" as my friends wedding photographer yesterday...basically my 135 only did like 30shots??mostly use b4 the event really start..just walking around to shoot some candid...and my 2470 gotten around 600+ shutters....

Just bought a A200 2nd hand..... how i extend warranty...

u canT, u only can extend the day u brought it

This post has been edited by ieR: Jan 4 2010, 08:41 PM