We all get a lot more from our parents than we think. So while I would not want to put the parents in jail for bankruptcy, if I had a kid I would not get him/her a credit card. Heck I don't even believe in credit cards myself.

With credit cards, you can end up buying something you never knew how to save money up for.

Whereas if you save money up for it, if anything happens, you know how to save up that same money again. You know whether you need to eat bread, or quit smoking, because you've experienced it before.

there is monopod...

It is solely the parent's fault n no1 else. If the limit was set, nothing will happen. So that is pure stupidity on the parents part n no1 else. Besides, when big purchases are made, the bank calls to notify the parents. There's no excuse for claiming ignorance.

mono's never gonna be able to cut the cake... still needs a sturdy tripod

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Added on January 8, 2010, 11:46 ami agree with both albert and ianho's POV. both's got its point. i myself have got a card, under parent's name. only to use it in emergency. and i would need to pay back after usage.

This post has been edited by lwliam: Jan 8 2010, 11:46 AM

mainly for girls la. not nice to hold if u got big hand. not much grip. go sony center to try 1

btw, moo dont think im going to zaloon on saturday.. Mayby monday =)

ianho: r u saying that...for those guys who keep on complaining bout their career...they should blame it to their teachers in school for not educating them properly?

same logic goes to the scenario, should we blame the parents for their numskull kids? just because the kids dunno how to control their spending habit without justifying their budget?

lwliam: i read in DigitalCamera mag...some of those guys are using monopod with their freaking huge telephoto lens to snap birds...i guess macro lens can never be as heavy as a tele lens...IMHO

albnok: i would rather carry CC rather than a bulk of cash...sometimes...CC do have it's benefits...like points...discounts...purchase protection and etc...i've learn my lesson once, after kena rob...and i manage to redeem a new HP after getting stolen...

good thing bout CC is...in the end of the day...you can change the points for something else...like for me...my favorite card is CIMB Enrich...all my purchase is turn into MAS Enrich miles...every year...i manage to redeem free tickets to Europe...or free upgrade to business class for long haul trip...which i can NEVER afford to experience...



This post has been edited by finejava: Jan 8 2010, 12:01 PM

wah suddenly the credit card issue is risen here eh.~
i myself own a credit card, an i ONLY bought things that i now i can pay for..
self-controlling is VERY VERY necessarily..
about the supplementary cards tho.. i didnt agree for that..

anyway..
was hoping that a450 specs and more info on it (besides at sony's site) ie review can be found around the time it's (if) released here..

tak ade la...mana ade issue...just sharing thoughts only...

shooting birds and shooting bugs are 2 different fields altogether, with birds, u need the movement of the camera to pan. furthermore, the light is enough to keep the shutterspeed high enough.

with bug macro, the light is low, any small movement of the camera will shift the focus point drastically. try it and u will know

ehm...u got a point there...thx for the hint...

is i get 90mm sometime i want shoot ant still can?

yes u can, becoz that is real macro lens..

it depends on how u shoot it..
if u really2 like macro then u can try SP90 gerenti racun kaw2..
after that u can get the flash (specific macro flash) and go for heavy-duty neck strap for stabilization (unless ur using tripod to shoot ants )

flash gun (specific macro flash) ??

for macro...basically they use ring flashes..give a better all round flash exposure

like this

something like this:


Sony HVL-MT24AM

atau third party.. Macro-O Flash Adaptor..

looks heavy

This post has been edited by soket: Jan 8 2010, 01:44 PM

i'm using this for my macro shots.... no need to buy special flash

just use normal flash light only

http://cgi.ebay.com/Transform-Flash-Bracke...=item2557f10167

who is going to pudu plaza tomorrow?

This post has been edited by cjlai: Jan 8 2010, 01:52 PM