Guus nice... he will make increase kuyt's stamina to make him run for a full 90 mins

for me its not because spanish influence whatsoever,but i think rafa's time is over,time for a new change

it seems that every match,opponent already know which tactics will liverpool use

and every match it seems that liverpool lose its tempo

just my 2 cents,or maybe lower

perh... if hiddink goes to Liverpool, i think it'll be a good move. He develop Russian national team and setup their academy. It won't be long before Russia is a threat in international arena again.

He could do the same with Liverpool.

But maybe roman's money will stop him from leaving russia and coto join chelsea

This post has been edited by gerrardtorres9: Jan 15 2010, 05:11 PM

Roman already stop the funding for Hiddink's salary.But out of respect, Hiddink will still talk to RA before accepting any job in England.

Torres and Gerrard were both injured. So tomorrow's game against stoke , Maxi 17 will start o?

Managing a club is a different proposition especially when you constantly have to balance the checkbooks, more so in our case. Else we could cite him taking South Korea to the World Cup Semi-Finals as a better example. He also led Australia to the World Cup. I can't help but wonder however if he can do the same at club level. The only club he's really had any notable success with was PSV Eindhoven. Aside from winning 3 league titles with them, he also took them to the semi-finals of the 2004/2005 Champions League where in my opinion, they were really unlucky to lose out to AC Milan despite looking like the hungrier side.

I really do hope Rafa turns our season around but it looks increasingly unlikely. Sadly for him stories of him watching the game together with our fans at a pub, and the Rafatolla being paraded through the streets are fast fading and non-recent.

pay Rafa 20m and let him go or face the 'potential' of bankruptcy by keeping him...

You see, what I like about Rafa is that he has a long term vision to fullfill and obviously is passionate about it and the club. I wouldn't want our club to sacrifice long term success for short term. Sure, managers like Mourinho have good track records and could very well lead us to the league with the current team but can they create a sustainable successful club over a long term?

Not proven as far as I'm concerned, and given our financial predicament it will be a huge investment to bring any of them over. And that is, if they are willing to come.

I really wish Rafa would get us out of the idiotic poor form because when you really think about it, there are not many choices available and I do want to see Rafa's youth system come into fruition years later. I've accepted that we would probably never win the PL in the years to come, but if we could see a consistent system of renewing quality ala Arsenal and Barca, at least we know it's heading towards the right direction. After all, no owners can afford to spend and re-spend just to achieve that sustainability, which is why I believe sooner or later Chelsea will struggle without a solid youth system.

But... we are diving headfirst into a black hole and Rafa seems powerless to do anything about it. Drastic measures are needed in times like this, either he chops his first team or he gets the chopping. Neither seems likely to happen any time soon... which makes the situation all the more frustrating.

[End of Rant]

So... how about that Fiorentina manager and a new 5-year plan?

But Hiddink record at established clubs aren't that good. He's a disaster @ RM & Valencia. His time in Chelsea is to short to be judged.

We dont really have much stand to be picky. Who would want to work under such owners?

Well, at PSV he's a legend, until the time when his key players all got sold.

Adding the fact that he's amazingly successful in managing national teams (South Korea, Soviet Russia, Socceroos) , I don't see why not he could bring Liverpool to great success.

hiddink a bit suspect when managing clubs. eradivisie is not exactly a top notch league. managing country and club are different matter where in country you don't handle the games week in week out and doesnt have to handle pressure from the boards, press and fans all seasons long.

i was hoping to wait till end season if the club wanted to change manager but by the looks of current situation.. i dunno if the board can tahan till end season. as for me, just let rafa till season end and see how the team perform. if it's lower than 4th than can pressure rafa to step down without paying any compensation.

Perhaps anyone that can bring Socceroos to World cup can do the job with Liverpool ...

Seriously, i am for Mourinho anytime. He looks a better bet for club football success. different titles in different league consistently. For the past 5-6 seasons, not a single blip in his career (except for that last few months of his Chelsea tenure, but i think its more political than anything). Titles in Portugal, titles in UK, titles in Inter. I believe Roman's dough helped him to an extent. But still, he had the skill, tactics, ability to turn Drogba, FL, Terry into title winners. I thought Eto will struggle in Inter but all seems well at moment. What is the secret?

Sure, his CL record is a suspect but then he is superb for a 40 games week in week out campaign, exactly what Liverpool need at moment.

Yeah, he brags a lot and is cocky. I personally would welcome that. Imagine the tremor if he walks in to our first press conference (its Friday, i am entitled to dream..) and declare `This is a special club. Now it has a special manager'. I mean, what is wrong with that? We are a club with tradition, pedigree, trophy cabinets and yet, under-achieving big time. What is wrong with having an arrogant master manager come and manage us?
I cannot imagine what he will do with our Gerrard, Lucas, Agger, Skrtle, Kuyt, Babel....

Even if he comes for 2 seasons and then leave for another egoistic money making assignment elsewhere..i dont mind...as long as he bring us ONE TITLE, that is good enough for me mate! Yeah, call me short sighted but i am tired and weary of all the 5 year long term building. I want to see us winning the title above the Mancs.

Come Jose! Come and do what Evans, Souness, GH, Rafa failed to do. Give us the title, and return, we will boost your ego to a super maniac level. Sounds like a fair trade to me.


Jose over Guss anytime for me...

This post has been edited by nando: Jan 15 2010, 07:15 PM

Wonder if we can afford Mourinho and Hiddink salary.

rafa get fired? in your 20m pound dreams.
the owners are actually trying to force rafa to resign by not giving him the money he needs.
basically, same thing happened at valencia.

but we all know rafa has learnt his lesson and become even more stubborn.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Jan 15 2010, 07:25 PM

It'll not be easy for him to resign since he's working with his fellow countrymen

Hiddink..i think he rejected man city's offer...

Hiddinks short-term at chelsea was ok..but too short to judge...

This post has been edited by gerrardtorres9: Jan 15 2010, 07:28 PM

There's a way to force him out.He is a control freak.Make it 2 managers and he will resign.

Eto'o is still struggling

the other manager would probably commit suicide before rafa resigns.

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Added on January 15, 2010, 7:47 pmi know la, we make carra the assistant manager / player.
then he can go scold the owners everyday

heck, carra's voice has its own special frequency range.
in a stadium full of ppl, u can still hear carra shouting...cuts thru anything.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Jan 15 2010, 07:47 PM