Hey sifus out there,
can redoxon vitamin C be taken everyday, because it contains 1000mg of vitamin C , wouldn't it be overdose?

1000mg is fine.. however i recommend breaking it into 1/2 then take 2 times a day

i read from google that our recommended average intake of vitamin C is 75~90mg only

why break to half take 2 times? is that any better?

same as why don't you eat all 3 meals in the morning then afternoon and evening eat nothing?? is it the same?

vitamin c is a water soluble vitamin.
excess vitamin c is easily excreted by the body.
so it is not easy to overdose and cause toxic effect on the body.
1 pill of 1000mg vitamin c is fine

but if the body can only absorb 200mg then the 800mg will be wasted, right? so what for taking the 1000mg??

when i got flu i take 2k each day... 2 days heal d ^^

you misunderstood. i was talking about vitamin c clearance not absorption. but anyway :
vitamin c is well absorbed by the body. in fact almost 1000mg will be absorbed if taken.

It has been in practice that it is being taken once tablet everyday

I take Redoxan vit C 3x a day.

That's on top of Vit C supplements I take daily which is 2000 mg in the middle of the 3 main meals.

So far ok. I'm under a PT who told me that as long as I don't have diarrhoa, I should be ok.

I usually don't combine the Redoxan C just after I took the 2000 mg tablets. I usually take it before or after an hour or two after the 2000 mg tablets.

1000mg is fine.

but i read somewhere from google that our recommended vit c intake is 75~90mg

which site did u refer to? kindly post here so everyone can see it..

anyway this site shud and and its very reliable.
Vitamin C

correct. that is the daily requirement of vitamin c.
daily requirement is the minimum required to keep us healthy.
when we are ill, increased intake of vitamin c stimulates many of the body's system so that we get healthy faster.

the current upper safe intake is 2000mg. 1 of the sign of vitamin c toxic effect is diarrhea.

i take 2 everyday

you can take vitamin B and vitamin C all day but make sure u drink a lot of water


these vitamins are water soluble, so it will clear out of your system if there is excess easily

unlike A D E and K

that is RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance). it is different from ODI (Optimum Daily Intake).

RDA is the minimum required to prevent us away from disease symptoms, not to keep us healthy. You want healthy, ODI is required. (1000mg~3000mg)

diarrhea is not the toxic effect. it is a signs telling you that your body is enough for vitamin C currently and you need to stop taking it and reduce portion of the dosage.

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Added on December 9, 2009, 11:01 amRedoxon vitamin c is a synthetic vitamin C. There won't be overdosing in natural form of vitamin c but synthetic i am not sure.

Try to replace synthetic vitamin C to a natural one if u are affordable.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redoxon

This post has been edited by basSist: Dec 9 2009, 11:01 AM

that's minimum.... for poor african kids in the sub sahara dessert

the upper safe limit differs from person 2 person.... but i believe for most asians it is 1k, unless u have a lot of physical activities then 2k would be good...

i dont think too much B is safe...

i'm 14 years old so i take 1 tablet enough la ^^

Redoxon C is a dangerous product that should never have been approved. They do not sell this product in the US.

It is a slow poison.


It is synthetic and it does not lists all the ingredients. If it's sweet, but does not list the entire ingredients, or sweetener used, you can bet it's aspartame.


Get a pure natural based vitamin C source, avoid pharmaceutical vitamins.


You have been warned. Do your research on Bayer's scandals.


http://www.pharmacyonline.com.au/redoxon-e...ent-p-8679.html


Ingredients: Ascorbic acid, sorbitol, sodium bicarbonate, citric acid, colour (beta-carotene), flavouring, sodium carbonate, zinc citrate trihydrate, sweeteners (aspartame, acesulfame K), sodium chloride.


Your Malaysian redoxon packaging is dishonest and does not list all the ingredients.


These pharmaceuticals take Malaysians for fools and are in collusion with the health ministry. Someone's paying duit kopi not to reveal the entire ingredients on their products.

This post has been edited by bman: Dec 9 2009, 04:05 PM

Actually, it must have been awhile since you last open a box of Redoxan C. They do put on the container that it does contain aspartame.

And yes, I take it even if it does contain aspartame but it's the only thing that I take with aspartame. I don't take anything else with aspartame.

Different ppl have different reactions to aspartame, some more sensitive than others. The bigger danger are those sugar-free sweets which contain it. If there's a warning about phenylketorics (or however it's spelt), it probably contains aspartame as an artificial sweetener.

It's been only a few months since I poured all 100 ringgit worth of redoxon products down the sink and none of them list their entire ingredients honestly.


I dare not take my risk with Bayer products after finding out the stuff they laced their
'vitamins' with and besides I got better cheaper alternative source of vitamin C supplements.


The last straw that did it is when I found out this company sold HIV tainted medication in Asia, dumping it here after they were caught red handed in the US and banned from selling their HIV tainted products there.



The most important rule to remember when buying supplements, is to avoid all those made by or whose parent companies are pharmaceutical giants, especially those with a company history that went as far back as IG Farben hitler Nazism era.

No thanks, I am very serious, and scared of buying products from companies run by Nazis.

My best advise, maintain vitamin c intake at 500mg per day consistently esp after main meal. Your body maybe diff than others, dont do further harm towards your liver & kidney

my 2 cents worth

bman, that's your choice. if you really want to be really clean, it's not exactly that easy and neither is that cheap.

even with labelling and ingredients listing, it wouldn't be a complete listing anyway because it only goes up to a certain limit.

being a clean and healthy eater, it's not easy. the most is taking it a day at a time and a willingness to change. at the same time, not to get too caught up with what is right or wrong.

why do u all pay so much for vit c? just get generic vit c ler...

I have very valid reasons and proof why I or anyone should be very careful of Bayer.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

I urge you to read so you know the background of companies you are buying from.

Health supplements can kill you slowly if you don't know who makes them.






Because it tastes like crap. Everyone's got a sweet tooth and death wish. Taking sweetened Redoxon Vitamin C is like eating vegetables followed by tons of grilled meat laced with sodium nitrites.

No point taking health supplements when you have little knowledge about true nutrition and chemistry/science. These 'vitamins' would be nothing more than just placebos.

You wanna be healthy, do it the right way. But most people would rather eat like they usually do then pop a few pharmaceutical 'vitamins' without doing proper research then cry foul when they still fall sick.

That's why i am recommending organic and natural vitamin c from natural sources. but most of the people concern 'health' supplement in terms of price but not quality for their health. How much can you save for 1 bottle? save money or save body, that's the choice.

It's OK to take vitamin supplements but you MUST know who made them.


You must do your own research, and don't blindly buy a product because it's heavily advertised on TV.


Most people are not capable of independent thinking.. Thinking is too hard for them to do and they get defensive and offended when you point it out to them.


Redoxon WAS a good product. Remember, I said WAS. Even then, sodium ascorbate is not as natural as ascorbic acid.


In 2004 Roche sold it to Bayer, and bayer tainted the original formula, modified and added other stuff.

The major known ones are aspartame, newly added. We don't know what other things they put in there. NO website on the net has anything good to say about aspartame and it is a known neurotoxin.

Original formula I think just used sugar. Sugar is safer than aspartame, I rather buy a vitamin that actually used natural sugar than aspartame.


With the HIV tainted product scandal and the fact this company has a Nazi background/history and in cahoots/bed with other Nazi Eugenicist/Hitler linked companies from World War 2, I have no confidence and do not trust the ethics/morals of this company.

Companies that make gases to gas/murder millions of people, I have a serious problem and it is my duty as a human being to avoid them and spread information about this company.


It is sad that so many people use Redoxon and yet do not realize they're slowly poisoning themselves and have no idea the history of these Nazis.

omg redoxon is like my COCA COLA now

Thanks for supporting Hitler and his cronies!


Study history and better educate yourself what products you're using from what company!

Knowledge is power, can save your lives in case you're a victim of silent Eugenics manipulation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer#Controversies



"After 1978, there were four major companies in the United States engaged in the manufacture, production and sale of Factor VIII and IX: Armour Pharmaceutical Company, Bayer Corporation and its Cutter Biological division, Baxter Healthcare and its Hyland Pharmaceutical division and Alpha Therapeutic Corporation, which have been or are defendants in certain lawsuits.

The plaintiffs allege that the companies manufactured and sold blood factor products as beneficial "medicines" that were, in fact of likely to be contaminated with HIV and/or HCV. This resulted in the mass infection and/or deaths of thousands of haemophiliacs worldwide.[22]

It is believed that three of these companies, Alpha, Baxter, and Cutter, recruited and paid donors from high risk populations, including prisoners (i.e. prison-based collections), intravenous drug users, and plasma centers with predominantly homosexual donors, esp. in cities with large populations thereof, to obtain blood plasma used for the production of Factor VIII and IX. Plaintiffs allege that these companies failed to exclude donors, as mandated by federal law, with a history of viral hepatitis. Such testing could have substantially reduced the likelihood of plasma containing HIV and/ or HCV entering plasma pools."[23][24][25]

This post has been edited by bman: Dec 10 2009, 11:59 AM

i dunno mah, because all my church friends said redoxon is good

So you still wanna feed yourself those poison ?


Do what I did, pour all of them down the sink hole and let it gas away..... Nice effect... hahaha I did the same thing to their Cal-D Vita vitamin D3.


Hundreds of ringgit worth of all my redoxon all gone bye bye. Really regret buying.

Now I stick to buying online (not too much or kena rampas by kastam) from food companies, not pharmaceuticals.


For vitamin-C, i think the best brand you can get locally is Solar Ray supa-bio C.

It is the most honest brand, but not so cheap, and it taste like crap if you burst the capsule open to taste it.

But hey, I am taking supplements for health, not for taste.

Yes overdose.
But as some forumer stated, it is water soluble (compared to some other vitamins which are fat-soluble) so any excess with go with urine.
Personally, I don't advocate taking vit-c supplements (unless prescribed by doctors or vit-c deficient) as vitamin C deficiency almost rare in Malaysia as most people are not malnourished.
The small amount of vit-c in food usually is enough.

Is this the rubbish they teach you at med school? I bet it must be that lousy FDA standard. Even FDA itself is a joke.

I bet you must be a believer of 400IU only daily vitamin D3 intake. *LOL*


Please stay away from nutrition topic. Medical students and graduates know the least about such topics and are indoctrinated to ridicule vitamins and nutrition so they can push drugs and vaccines in their place.

Having enough of food to eat does not mean having the right amount of nutrition.

Try having a diet consisting only of daily MCDonalds big mac meals and tell me what happens by the end of 3 months

This post has been edited by bman: Dec 11 2009, 12:49 PM

yeah right.
ok.
great.
whatever.

Don't worry, you're not the only one that doesn't get him. I was reading thinking "How come Vit-C can suddenly move to McD??". Some people just have anger management issues.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Dec 11 2009, 02:35 PM

Yup.
as per someone post in his other closed thread:

Yeah. The audiophile guys told me already when he came over to H&F. I was prepared, that's why I don't bother moderating his posts.

I don't think u need to moderate his posts as they are way too ridiculous .
The only people who will believe what he said is himself & other people who thinks like him which hopelessly can't be helped anymore.
We should ignore or make fun of it

I am agree on this.

@caerulln

For RDA standard, 1000mg is overdosed. but for ODA, it is not.

ODA?
Never used that standard before.
Which organization set the Optimal Daily Amounts?

RDA is Recommended Daily Amounts

Stone[97] and Pauling[75] calculated, based on the diet of primates[74] (similar to what our common ancestors are likely to have consumed when the gene mutated), that the optimum daily requirement of vitamin C is around 2,300 milligrams for a human requiring 2,500 kcal a day. Pauling also criticized the established RDA as sufficient to prevent scurvy, but not necessarily the dosage for optimal health.[84]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C

I take it once a day or two days once ..

Why do dogs not having grey hairs ?

One of the reasons I found out is that animals like dogs can produce Vitamin C in their liver.
The amount can go as high as 10g per day produced depending on their stress level and various conditions.
Polar bears although so padded with fat but never got a heart attack. Anyway has anyone seen a dog died of
heart attack ?

Unfortunately for humans and some species of apes and guinea pig somehow lost the ability to produce
vitamin c in their body but has to take in from outside ! a genetic defect indeed !

To most humans 1000mg of ascorbic acid should be ok ! Nothing to be afraid of !

Lol, after reading thru the posts, I find all the regular "nutritional supplement advocate" gang here again.

Some are even trying to say that thier M.B.B.S is a sham. Maybe you guys should build your own "medical school", sorry I meant nutrition school.

Anyway, here's my take. I dunno about Redoxon, and what Bayer does behind everyone's back. But I offer to share some info on Vitamin C.

Vitamin C is an essential vitamin, which means that the body does not produce them. I sure every one knows that already. RDA is the reccomended daily dosage to prevent oneself to be symptom free from vitamin deficiency.

Vitamin C have been shown to be relatively safe in doses up to 10grams. Doses of vitamin c up to 1-2 grams have been shown to reduce incidences of colds, flu, etc, although results are not always consistent. BUt one thing is for sure is that it safe at these dosages. Taking doses above 2-5grams is relatively useless because it is passed out in urine anyway. Also, taking doses at about 2grams does have its side effects which is gastic. Vitamin C is acidic. There have been complains about gastric and gastro intestinal disturbances when taking at these doese and above. There are alternatives of course, such as Sodium Ascorbate which are salt derivatives which are said to cause less gastro-intestinal side effects. However, these derivatives are usually very expensive.

Lastly, I'm sure many people like to BS about your Health vs. Money and how one should take every single vitamin over the RDA and what are you going to save if you don't have your health. I find these statements very irresponsible. Some people may earn RM5k, so they may be able to afford whatever vitamins they want. Some may earn RM2k per household of 5 living in the middle of KL and buying vitamins means they might not have enough food to go around. I'm sure most med school have topics teaching the Doctors about patient quality of life and how to help patients balance between what they can afford to buy for their health according to their finacial capabilities. But not everyone goes through med school, do they?

Edit: BTW, taking doses up to 10grams is safe on a daily basis as long as your stomach can take it.

This post has been edited by Kain_Sicilian: Dec 13 2009, 08:03 PM

Dogs & polar bear is a lot different from humans.
& I don't think anyone could know if a dog dies of heart attack or not unless an autopsy is done

RDA for Vitamin C is around 100mg/day, the surplus will be excreted in the urine.

Bt why there is so many 500mg, 1000mg vitamin C in the market?
--> more product for phamaceutical company to sell --> more $$$
--> more u eat --> more they earn

while u wont get 200% healthier by consume those vitamin
As for normal healthy person, natural vitamin from food is more than enough for well being.

and i think i have never see or heard anyone with Vitamin C deficiency in malaysia yet.

This post has been edited by ivzh: Dec 13 2009, 10:35 PM

I think because the drug companies know that excess vit-c in that amount will just go with the urine without side effects.
& they also know that big numbers sell .
Imagine if they sell 100mg vit-c when their competitors are all selling 1000mg.
Their sale to lay person will be affected.

So they are cheating the consumers =x

Not really cheating.
More to misleading..
As the product does not have side effects, it can continue to be sold in the market.

I think i rather eat a few oranges rather than pills.
More fresh & taste better

gosh, the physician and pharmacist are here again to talk about nutrients that they not really study on

Yeah I think dietitians & those who are studying dietetics should chime in.
You guys are experts in this matter.
We are just lay person trusting whatever info we encounter on the net.

And I'm sure you did

information on the net not everything is 100% true.. wan the more accurate answer proceed to the specialist... ^^

What Poison?.. If you want to take Vitamin C first consult your your doctor?.. or refer to the Pharmacist at the Pharmacy. And make sure sure KKM label is there at the package. No KKM label means the produck os not approved and is not save to consume. Kindly check the KKM label at bottom part of the case 9Redoxon) it stated there KKM20020730X. So what the fuss ?..After all Vit C is not classified as drugs..Take it or leave it..ZAIN.

i know this is an old thread but i just start consuming Redoxon Vita Guard... not the dedicated vitamin C, the one in yellow box (vita guard in red box)
i now don't have morning drippy nose & cold sneezing.

I gent through all the 3 pages... and it seem this one user seem carved on stone that it's dangerous (i assume he/she's talking about the yellow box)

so my questions...

1. did someone here have any experience with the said product (the red box) and has any side effect?

2. what's best way to consume... half a tablet a day, or a tablet every 2 days?

tq

I took last time one tablet 1000mg
Body feel heart feels hot and feverish. Stop taking since then