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 HTC Desire, Officially Launched!

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post Apr 30 2010, 05:21 PM

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Don't worry, hopefully those people are working on an automated rooting procedure like the jailbreak for iPhone hehehe...
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post Apr 30 2010, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(akeen @ Apr 30 2010, 07:26 PM)
i didn't ask them whether it is under sis.....i guess i shud ask them tomolo...
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Could it be AP? If you are able to verify that it is indeed original. Remember to post here and alert us! Hehehehe...

QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 30 2010, 08:26 PM)
lol..then internet in smartphone is useless if a simple login also cannot tongue.gif
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A smartphone is also useless if it does not have an internet plan or the user isn't able to afford one. Hehehehehe... biggrin.gif
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post May 1 2010, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(blueyan @ May 1 2010, 01:37 AM)
hmm , I saw your previous post said that the sis set will bring down the price of Ap right ? but according to akeen , it is RM2699 ,,,, can it bring down the ap set ?
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If and only if the price of original SiS sets are lower than the current AP price point. But if the RM2699 price is real, then I guess AP price will not move much. Maybe when Singapore sets are available, price will go down a little bit. If original sets are sold at RM2699, I guess the AP price is attractive right? Hehehe...

QUOTE(irenic @ May 1 2010, 08:11 AM)
if desire is that expensive, i think better i wait for galaxy S.. Samsung said most probably it will be available in June...
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June availability is other countries mah, not sure about Malaysia. By that time, iPhone 4G could be available already drool.gif

QUOTE(|eaRn3r @ May 1 2010, 08:24 AM)
yea~
but i would like to wait digi launch out a package for desire which similar to legend...

hope it will tongue.gif
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Yeah if you're only looking at Android phones, then getting locked down on contract with Digi is a reasonable proposition. Some of us also would like to save this bullet for the upcoming iPhone 4G hehehehehe...
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post May 2 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ May 2 2010, 12:02 PM)
turning on wifi can kill the battery faster than 3g...
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Actually if you're surfing or using the connection, WiFi actually uses less power than 3G radio. But yes, if everything is idle... it is a good idea to just turn off the WiFi when you're not using it.

3G radio or 2G radio... will depend how close you are to the base tower. There's a specific subject called near far theory. GSM requires a transceiver to emit lower signal strength when the transceiver is closer to base tower than a transceiver that is farther away. So if you're far away from a base tower, your phone will have to emit a stronger signal. So that from the base tower point of view, the signal strength received is same (on average).

Why 3G radio uses more power than 2G is because 3G coverage especially you're in a building is not good enough.
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post May 2 2010, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(|eaRn3r @ May 2 2010, 03:38 PM)
user posted image

may i noe tis thing workable to prevent the warm issue hmm.gif
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Looks like a ferrite plate to me. I think there are a lot of such products in the market. But we never know any of their effectiveness. Anyway keep your phone as stock as possible hehehe...
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QUOTE(linkinawe @ May 2 2010, 06:46 PM)
I guess AP wont drop in next 3 4 months because sis set price at Rm2699  hmm.gif . ap price will drop if sis price drop , or htc release a new phone with higher specification .
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Wait wait... SiS set already out? RM2699 confirmed? ohmy.gif
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post May 3 2010, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ May 3 2010, 12:58 AM)
they both having same connectivity card , where did you hear this from ? My desire is having 2 or 3 bar , even my wireless router is 100m beside me  rclxub.gif  ... My router is Linksys WRT54GL , 2.4ghz channel a/b/g ... but still , I have ran some test speed , apps from speedtest.net , getting 800kbs ++ (subscribing 1mb streamyx) ... At first I thought the 2 3 bars mean low signal , but it still getting good speed , maybe got bugs with the software  doh.gif  ..

if you still worry , borrow legend from friend or go to shop test by yourself . biggrin.gif
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Sometimes, signal strength does not reflect on the signal quality. Unless your device can show RSSI value (and other parameters), we may never know what is the signal condition. I never took those signal bars seriously because like you experienced, they don't match. I can still get good transfer speed. smile.gif
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post May 3 2010, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ May 3 2010, 08:48 AM)
want to become developer ? biggrin.gif
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Or to install all sorts of applications hehehehe... For me, I personally like the cache cleaning application that is only available post rooting. biggrin.gif
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post May 3 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(|eaRn3r @ May 3 2010, 09:34 AM)
Data of d phone will still run although u r not using it...similar like iphone n there is no 3g or edge 4 u 2 off...when u r in d non wifi area then u will be getting charges...

Am i rite? Plz correct me if no.:-)
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Yes. It works this way. Say your phone has 3G and WIFI activated. When you're in a location without WIFI, naturally your 3G will be utilized when you access data connection. Then you move into a location with WIFI access, your phone will automatically switch to the WIFI connection for data.

Like the iPhone, it prioritize on the WIFI connection first and lastly the 3G/Edge/GPRS connection. This is because WIFI is most likely free while 3G/Edge/GPRS connection will incur a fee. If you watch youtube you will notice a difference. When on WIFI, the stream quality is better than when on 3G/Edge/GPRS. This is because the stream is downsampled to conserve bandwidth when you're on 3G/Edge/GPRS to help save cost.

QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ May 3 2010, 10:27 AM)
1 question guys..once rooted cannot unroot back ?
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This is the response I have been getting so far. But I've seen people 'losing root' when they upgrade their software. So a full recovery may be able to unroot. I can't be sure now because I don't have an Android device at the moment.
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QUOTE(|eaRn3r @ May 3 2010, 10:58 AM)
erm...from wat i read in other forum...(i mean iphone as an example now) d wifi signal we have 2 connect by ourselves but 3g or edge or gprs it will connect automatically...n if d phone found tat d wifi signal is poor then it will automatically switch to 3g or edge...
Izit mean d priority will always go for 3g instead wifi?
Or it will choose d 1 which having stronger signal?

N using tis types of smart plan...i think we should sign up a data plan in order not 2 get horrible charges...rite? :-)
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WIFI you need to connect manually assuming you're in a new location and that WIFI has not been saved in a profile before. Also if the new WIFI location requires login, you need to establish authentication first.

WIFI is always priority. Its just that when you're in a location with weak WIFI signal, you will be disconnected and your phone will automatically fall back to your 3G/Edge/GPRS radio. This is indicated by the change in icon from WIFI to 3G or whatever is available.
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QUOTE(draco82 @ May 3 2010, 02:57 PM)
That means there is no way for us to close the wifi or 3g usage in the phone itself like winmo? shocking.gif
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I believe you can disable 3G/GSM radio. There's an app that changes the APN so it will not work anymore. But I can't be sure if it works for Desire or not. Last I know, it doesn't work on Nexus One for some reasons. So need to find alternative software.

For WIFI, you can utilize the standard widget or toggle widgets. So you have a lot of control on the kind of connection you want to use.
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post May 3 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(draco82 @ May 3 2010, 04:23 PM)
biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif Thats what people dont want to do to carry portable charger or charger always. That is the reason why people keep asking on how to prolong the battery usage~~
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Hahaha yeah true. If spend money to get a portable charger, might as well just get another battery. Of course you'll need to switch off in between battery swapping.

In my opinion, the micro USB cable is the most important thing. Just keep it in your bag. When circumstances call for it, just unleash the cable and plug into any USB ports. Assuming you're in an office environment lar.
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QUOTE(chiahau @ May 3 2010, 06:46 PM)
Because Nexus one is longer in production la bro~"
Desire just release, wait till people in XDA creates more custom roms n etc la~"
Surely will come one one day~"
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Thats what I thought too. One thing that prevented me from going Nexus One is their oversensitive touch buttons. I had the Milestone and my palm has always activated the buttons by accident.
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QUOTE(linkinawe @ May 4 2010, 07:21 AM)
both Nexus and Desire using the same touchscreen panel , ClearPad2000 , only limited to 2 fingers with less responsive IF compare to Incredible . Incredible using CLearPAd3000 touchscreen panel which allow 9++ multitouch with high accuracy of responsive . Think la , basically when you need 2 fingers of multitouch ? when you choosing apps , making call , writing text (using swype) , normally 1 finger can done that =.= . Unless you want to play multiplayer game with 4 fingers ++ , with opponent on the same phone . Pinch and zoom is very smooth for expanding homescreen or picture , web site browsing. I dont see any other cases that needed multitouch (2 fingers) that much , normally 1 finger can do all the task. lol , think of how often you use more than 2 multi-touch 1st and whether it will slow down your productivity, no need comparing which phone has the best touch screen panel while you are not needed it. To me , Desire and Nexus are 95% smooth like Iphone , that 5% you wont notice with naked eye.
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The only time a 2 finger application is required and it is very important for a phone is typing on the on-screen keyboard. When you're typing on 2 thumbs fast enough, you'll see the importance of 2 point multitouch. And also while gaming. Some games uses on-screen joysticks. The Clearpad2000 is just fine for this purpose. This is something on the software as suspected by developers. It could improve in the future. Lets hope it is not a hardware issue.

And I don't understand why a 9+ point screen is required tongue.gif but maybe there's something Clearpad3000 has that the 2000-series do not. You know... Americans are picky.


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QUOTE(irenic @ May 4 2010, 08:17 AM)
if u install tap tap revenge game  on the iPhone, u need more than 2 point touch because u can have 2 players on 1 phone.. playing against each other at a time. so with 4 fingers on the screen, thats where we need a better screen than what we have on the nexus / desire.. but for just a game and it wont affect the whole experience of  using nexus one which is way better than having a phone with a superb screen but has lots of limitation..  biggrin.gif
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But at any one time, does 4 points are required? In other words, 4 fingers touching the screen at any one time? Yeah this is better than x10 with a large screen but only single touch.

QUOTE(linkinawe @ May 4 2010, 08:31 AM)
If I play game , I need to have a button like feeling , dont feeling I want to play game on touch screen phone and phone game cant satisfy me. on-screen keyboard with 2 finger ? XD I am using swype here , it is definitely faster than 2 fingers typing . so multi-touch typing is no longer needed
Swype user sets Guinness World Record for texting speed
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True and I agree gaming experience is much better on real buttons. But since we're using touch screen here and there are times we just need a quick fix, so this has to be considered as well. Its only for a relaxing moment, no record setting intentions hehehe...
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Just wait a few more days peeps hehehe... maybe the price is gonna be attractive. You have nothing to lose. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ineser @ May 8 2010, 07:53 AM)
This waiting game is killing me... arggg
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We said that one month ago tongue.gif I think only one more week before we hear anything hehehe... don't worry we're close.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ May 8 2010, 05:03 PM)
looking at your "track" record, i am very sure 99% the Desire will be in your hands once is available
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Guess that includes me as well hehehehe...
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QUOTE(gukichan @ May 8 2010, 11:47 PM)
never..asked him bout the price. doh.gif but I think he got it around 2k?...SS2 area there..Atlantis...same place I've been getting my phones from since form 2...

um..lucky also...still kind off..huh. I think he just don't like seeing me using my old banged up phone which until buttons can't press sometimes and the speakers already gone case aha..aha...
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Atlantis got sell? Good price. Christopher offers good service to the neighborhood community there.
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QUOTE(irenic @ May 9 2010, 10:51 AM)
just got my desire 3 days ago.. now have both desire and nexus one in a pocket. i feel like an android freak.. huhu
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I'm pretty close to your stage now hehehe but with a difference. I have changed close to 10 phones since 2009 until now. Yes, I'm crazy but I'm sure there are more crazy people than me. So I hope Desire will be my last well for the year. Hahahaha...

QUOTE(irenic @ May 9 2010, 02:18 PM)
well honestly it's hard to say so. in terms of design i prefer nexus one a lot. i just for the time being prefer the desire because of it's Sense UI. While my Nexus also has Sense UI a21 rom on it, the waiting period for a better version somehow is too long.. dont get me wrong, i know the devs are doing their best on it, but i just cant wait anymore haha..

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Yeah this is the reason why I stick my preference towards Desire. I know the Nexus One can do Sense UI but I don't wanna mess with the flashing procedures. Also the Modaco alpha revisions are not really bug free although they're pretty polished by now. Also the 'repartitioning' scares me. Also I'm more interested in the reversibility of this procedure in an event I want to sell it. So I better stick to Desire.

Right now I think some people is selling Desire for RM2200 and below (AP) but I want to see the original price point before deciding. I think RM2000 for a high-end AP phone is reasonable but if the original price point is close to RM22xx, it makes no difference. But sometimes, I'm cheap. Thats the way it is hehehehe...

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