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 HTC Desire, Officially Launched!

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davidmak
post Apr 8 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(RedsInHell @ Apr 8 2010, 08:30 PM)
What's the difference between  sense & touchflo?
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Sense UI is more of an upgrade to Touch Flo 3D. In fact, Touch Flo 3D is no longer present on all 2009/2010 HTC models. Sense UI brings additional integration and feature on top of Touch Flo for example:

- Tighter UI shell integration on top of OS
- Tighter integration of social networking application on OS
- Live streaming of information from internet to support social networking
- Improved tabs navigation

I believe there's much more Sense UI brings.
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post Apr 10 2010, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ineser @ Apr 10 2010, 07:01 AM)
Yeah quite cheap but dont get caught by SIRIM. If you do, you gonna pay RM 210 + 10% tax too which I think you better off buying AP set
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It depends on how you declare the goods. Most online shopping sites allow you to specify special requests. This is where you tell them to declare the goods as a 'gift'. SIRIM and the shipping company likes to lookout for parcels that is declared as 'Communication Device'. So if you declare it as a gift, it'll go undetected. But shipping company sometimes do random picks this is where you need to count on your luck.

At most you need to go SIRIM to purchase a personal AP permit. You can do so through an agent or personally. This is where you need to make declaration of the product through specifications, product brochure and some paperwork. After paying for the permit you need to settle the tax by paying the shipping company. The company will then do the rest and ship it to you.

QUOTE(VentureLKW @ Apr 10 2010, 10:35 AM)
Are you sure? From where you got the information?
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I've heard many many rumors. One numbnut from PDA Expert, Midvalley even told me that it won't be launched until end of the year. I thought I heard wrongly but then... meh.... forget it. Don't know don't simply say mah...

Most indications point at end of this month. We shall see.
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post Apr 11 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(whatsayyou @ Apr 11 2010, 08:52 AM)
the processor is 1gz, and more ram. when more applications are open, u will feel the diff
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I can definitely agree with this.
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post Apr 11 2010, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Apr 11 2010, 11:56 AM)
Indeed it does has better performance when multiple apps are running but is the difference easily distinguished comparing with Legend?
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Probably not but you will see it when Live Wallpaper is loaded. Everything will slow to a crawl. Milestone is a good example. Technically speaking, in Android you almost never see a low ram issue because it dynamically manages ram usage. But you won't know it when some programs are closed either. So having more RAM will reduce this problem.
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post Apr 11 2010, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(gomatsu @ Apr 11 2010, 10:34 PM)
I'll be back in Malaysia, sometimes in July, what do you guys think this phone will fetch in Low Yat?

In the UK, it's very cheap, partly subsidized by the telcos.. I can see some gold mine there  biggrin.gif
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Terry is selling it at RM2080 AP. No one knows any of the official pricing.
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post Apr 12 2010, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(gomatsu @ Apr 11 2010, 11:04 PM)
Over here it's £352 = RM 1723
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People sell RM2080 including 'other handling and administration fees' mah hehehe... If we're in UK, we would have got it too. But we're here in Malaysia, so we need people like Terry to do the rest without hassle on our side.
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post Apr 14 2010, 02:27 PM

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That link seems to suggest a common limitation to PenTile arrangement for AMOLED displays when paired with ClearPad touch interface.
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post Apr 14 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(mikelee @ Apr 14 2010, 03:01 PM)
Damn... my interest went away just last month and to the iPAD and now its coming back again. When will HTC Desire launch? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(geniuz @ Apr 15 2010, 12:23 PM)
Seem like this Desire a must have gadget for this 2010 but I just worried bout it ability to support GPS voice navigation since papago not really support on this sad.gif .I really need this GPS for my travel purpose.
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No worries. Its Android. We will be able to pack in those features via the support of 3rd party communities. And Papago will likely release updates to M6 to support the phone.

But for dedicated travel usages, you better get a cheap PND (portable navigation device). GPS on phone is more for location aware applications and pedestrian navigation in my opinion. And of course, emergency usage.
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post Apr 16 2010, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 15 2010, 08:22 PM)
sad for this user


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Happened to my iPOD Touch before. I was one of the very first owners back then. Sucks when this happens.
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post Apr 18 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(extremeken @ Apr 17 2010, 11:57 PM)
my desire f***ing long
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Yeah, I'm feeling the pain too. Damn tired of waiting. Neck also long already. Have been waiting for so many product launches. The 3GS was particularly annoying. Then Desire and I bet.. the next new iPhone will be the same.
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post Apr 18 2010, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Apr 18 2010, 08:22 PM)
To all, its coming out in May, so be patient. Just one more month... tongue.gif
But after tax returns dunno if still have money to buy it.. hehe
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But its already more than mid of April now hehehehe...
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post Apr 19 2010, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(rkwan67 @ Apr 18 2010, 11:24 PM)
i dun see why is it so not possible.. android is open source and current hardware isnt so expensive any longer.

competitive market will definitely brings price down to drive sales. in anyway, HTC gain the most since both device manufactured by them.
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Right except that there's no competitive pricing in Malaysia biggrin.gif. We know Motorola Milestone is priced around RM2200. The X10 is a long way above RM2600(?). We know HTC Legend is priced at RM1999. We also know HTC Desire is among the most sought after phone for 2010 (at least Q2-Q3). SIS will have to price the Desire to undercut Milestone but without cannibalizing the Legend. Legend cannot reduce price at this moment because of all the price point below for other HTC products.

It simple to say, move and all the price automatically adjusts itself. The problem with new gadgets are it is almost 100% fueled by enthusiasts like us. The first round would be a blood fest because we would all die to get one. We're OK with any price as long as we can get it. As a result, no matter what price they position the Desire.. it is highly likely that it will be successful. Elastic/non-elastic pricing. Doesn't matter how much it is worth underneath that plastic. It sells.

Bottom line, worst case scenario --> same price as Nexus One (RM2400). Best case scenario below or same as Milestone (RM2099 or RM2199). If Legend moves down the pricing (highly unlikely), we're all good.
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QUOTE(Ryo83 @ Apr 19 2010, 10:51 AM)
I heard many -tv comment about Htc Desisre battery, that this Desire will run out of power quickly.... But still... i want this phone... This is my opinion, SOLUTION----> we buy extra HTC Desire battery and external charger hehe .... How much HTC Desire battery and external charger here in Malaysia???
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Most phones have so so battery performance. The standard seems to be 1 full day of use. The Desire fits into this category. Just make sure you have the micro-USB cable with you and maybe the wall charger. Then you can charge everywhere you go.
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QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Apr 19 2010, 12:53 PM)
which one has more storage rom between desire n nexus one? I heard desire only have 120mb, what about n1? And which one has better battery?
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I think almost the same. But I do know Desire has a lot of programs pre-installed from the ROM. You will need custom ROM modders to give us a lean ROM biggrin.gif

120MB is not much but considering the apps from Android Market are pretty small, I guess mainstream users should be just fine. It is only a matter of time before Google release some new revisions that enable installation on micro-SD card.
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QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:41 PM)
so we shouldnt worry about the storage memory then. what about the battery, which one has better battery life between 2 of them? does Iphone 3GS has better battery life than them?
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Even iPhone 3GS can last slight over 1 day. If you game a lot and access network data while on the go, it'll be less than 1 day too. Even Milestone have similar battery performance.

If you fetch a lot of data from the network especially those widgets, your battery will go flat at the end of the work day. Try to set a lower frequency like every 2 hours or more. I have an impression that Android's power management can still be improved since it is a young OS. Lots of room for improvements. Plus it has a 14xxmAH battery. My HD2 with 12xxmAH battery, same hardware and larger screen also can withstand 1.5 days. No need to worry lar...
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QUOTE(7CY @ Apr 19 2010, 02:57 PM)
Apparently for android phones such as HTC Desire, the apps can only be installed in their internal memory.

According to gsmarena.com review

"The HTC Desire has 512MB ROM and almost 80% of it is used or reserved for the Android OS. This leaves you with 120MB free space for all your apps and games. As you may know, the Android OS still doesn’t support installation on memory cards or even extended inbuilt storage (such as the 8/16 GB of the Samsung I9000 Galaxy S, which are listed as internal drive). So you have only 120MB to install what you need"

Does it show that it's a downside of Desire?

Anyone encounter any problem regarding no enough space for apps?
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Thats not the downside of Desire. Its the downside for all Android phones. If you look at Android apps, they aren't really that big. Most of them are less than 1MB with a few going to 5MB or possibly more. When this happen, the developers tend to put the core program onto internal ROM and put the rest into the SD card anyway. No issues. Same goes to navigation programs. Android apps makes use of a common program code pool (called Dalvik or something). So the apps carry the bare minimum codes.

The Samsung Galaxy S and a few upcoming phones will have large internal storage. It doesn't matter because the same limitation applies. The context of this limitation means all programs will have to be installed onto the ROM partition of the device which is 512MB-1GB big. Other storage even though it is internal or a micro-SD card but embedded inside the device makes no difference.

Hope that clears the confusion.

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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Apr 20 2010, 02:38 PM)
Hmm .. Divx support has been dropped .
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Yes support has been dropped but it may be the next round of updates. Hey at least Flash works! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Apr 21 2010, 08:39 AM)
Hi guys, i'm hihihehe's friend that he mentioned..
Just got my HTC Desire yesterday...
The screen is really awesome, bright and vibrant...
I'm upgrading from my HTC G1/Dream to Desire.. It's a huge step for me as 1.6 to 2.1 is a big difference.
I'm already used to Android OS so what goes where...
The 1Ghz SnapDragon is really amazing, very very fast compared to my G1's 500+ Mhz only.
the HTC Sense is a thumbs up, the UI is so much nicer than the android default one...
People are claiming the battery sucks, yea, but once you know how to close the unnecessary things then it's good... 

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Very poisoning hehehe tongue.gif When is this thing gonna arrive. Neck so long already rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(draco82 @ Apr 22 2010, 10:33 AM)
It is a good phone which have almost all in one function. Like it a lot. But downside is without turn by turn navigation. Also no access to android market. Really need to consider whether wanna go for android or keep stick to w.m.~~
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I think Google Maps is capable for turn by turn navigation. A recent article mentioned that Google has activated this function for European Desire. There's nothing on hardware. Just purely software. Maybe we can get a hack soon biggrin.gif

My previous Milestone also originally did not have Google Maps turn by turn but I somehow installed it and voila it is working.

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