HTC Desire, Officially Launched!
HTC Desire, Officially Launched!
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May 10 2010, 11:15 AM
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Guys, this should be the week we're waiting for. Technically its the 2nd week of May hahahaha
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May 10 2010, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(KayK @ May 10 2010, 01:21 PM) found this interesting article as i was finding out more on the hTC Desire, the snapdragon and Samsung's new processor S5PC110 aka Hummingbird... Thats pretty much a given considering Snapdragon has been around for some time since 2008. It only went mass retail on phones by mid of 2009 (at least for phones we could afford). The Snapdragon is based on Cortex A8 but with a modified 128-bit SIMD (which could downlink to 64-bit to conserve power) plus the Scorpion processing unit. one of the image on the article shows that the power consumption of the snapdragon SoC, guess what it's the highest among iphone 3GS, motorola droid, while comparison couldn't be done on the new Galaxy S as it's not out yet...see the pictures attached... this could explain why the battery life is quite poor... [attachmentid=1568877] Source I just hope hTC Desire will be out as soon as possible, before snapdragon becomes "outdated"...especially if the S5PC110 is as powerful as claimed by Samsung... The Hummingbird is more like a standard Cortex A8 but with improved process (45nm) to gain 1GHz clock. However, the killer feature is not about the processor but the Power VR SGX 540 graphics core. Thats one serious GPU. And because of that, it is more power efficient. The Snapdragon is still riding on the old ATI Radeon Z430 which is ancient and old. Qualcomm seems to be stuck with this GPU for life. But they do have better Snapdragon in the making like the upcoming 1.5GHz variants with a better GPU (rumor). Also we shouldn't evaluate power efficiency based on core processors alone. We should look at radio performance too. With out spotty 2G/3G coverage, battery performance won't go anywhere more than 2 days (avg). We have to remember that battery performance depends on telco's network too. |
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May 10 2010, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(KayK @ May 10 2010, 02:50 PM) i remembered the 1st device with 1GHz snapdragon is the Toshiba TG01, too bad that this device didnt really do justice to the snapdragon due to the software... Yeah going multi-core may not make a lot of sense for mobile phones. Its like a mini warmer in hot pockets hehehehe... I know ARM is introducing Cortex-A9 and this core is capable for multi-core scaling. I think hardware has a comfortable lead ahead of software developments. The current Snapdragon has no problem powering all the software simultaneously and we have ample RAM to begin with! i read a few articles in the internet speculating that the dual core snapdragon QSD8x72 will comes with better GPU considering Qualcomm has purchased ATi's handheld device graphics division, so i hope that qualcomm wont be stuck using that GPU... true about the battery performance and a lot of other factors have to be considered as well, but it also show that the QSD8x50 1GHz snapdragon is quite power hungry by itself...i hope that the QSD8x50A with 1.3GHz and 45nm will fare better in terms of battery life... And yes, Snapdragon at 1.3GHz and 45nm may provide a nice balance between performance and power consumption. The tablet market may benefit from multi-core scaling since they can afford a larger battery. By the way, the Toshiba TG01 was suppose to be a debut for Qualcomm but Toshiba really screw things up with their software which made it laggy. HTC does a finer and more elegant job. Added on May 10, 2010, 3:42 pm QUOTE(avengers88 @ May 10 2010, 03:38 PM) Goes to show how close we are with the availability of original Desire. Guess they may have a price indication for original sets so they have to reduce price in anticipation. Also SG set is launching end of this week so availability will be improved. With more stock, price will get adjusted sometimes.This post has been edited by davidmak: May 10 2010, 03:42 PM |
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May 10 2010, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(Narako @ May 10 2010, 06:09 PM) haha yeah.. lol buy a few then keep then if price go up 2300 again untung 150 each... hmm maybe i shud do that... XD Where got increase price one lar hahaha... although there are events where price really increase but its rare. So you wanna take the risk meh. The best time to earn is to bring in a phone that is not available yet like few weeks ago and then sell it at an expensive price. Examples are like iPhone 3G during its early days, iPAD, etc. Those small time online traders really make a quick buck. |
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May 11 2010, 09:55 AM
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May 11 2010, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(bbdannylim @ May 11 2010, 03:07 PM) Hi everyone, There isn't much difference between AP or SIS. Both are original equipment. The AP ones may differ in the regional settings. Basically modern phones are pretty reliable now. You usually see problems that are obvious in the first few days. But still there is always a risk no matter how small.I'm looking to buy the Desire. Is it AP not so good as from SIS? Or is it just the warranty issue? I see alot of people hesitate to buy AP set, is it because for now AP is selling much expensive than when it is officially available from SIS? I really don't know should buy AP set or not. Confuse. In the case of Desire, a lot of people is restraining from getting AP because we are anticipating a very competitive price from SIS. Also AP price is showing signs of fluctuation. Notice that AP price was RM23xx-2600 two weeks ago. Now price has come down to RM20xx-21xx. Lets say if you were to buy AP now at RM2100 and original SIS set finally release and sell at RM22xx-24xx. You might regret because a few hundreds you could have get an original unit. If original SIS set sells at RM24xx-26xx, then you may feel lucky because you got a good deal. The probability in the above 2 scenarios are 50/50. Either way, if you wait it out... you sure won't lose. Maybe lose initial bragging hehehehe or potentially another new product release. Still money in your pocket and safe. Assuming original SIS set sells at RM22xx. AP price (at this moment RM2100) will not hold for long. It will definitely reduce unless original SIS set stock is very very low so AP traders can play ball with potential buyers. If stock not an issue, they may have to reduce price to attract purchase. Maybe RM18xx? We see this trend with Motorola Milestone. We also speculated the above scenarios. So better wait it out. After all, we've come so far waiting... 1-2 weeks doesn't make a difference. If you need a quick fix and have filthy cash hehehe... then buy some other phone first lor hahahaha |
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May 11 2010, 04:35 PM
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May 11 2010, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(x132755 @ May 11 2010, 04:48 PM) the case for MOTO a bit diff from HTC, becoz moto dead for a long time, now only can raise back by the product of MILESTONE.. that y they cant sell too high to fight back the market... I understood a lot of Malaysian users consider Motorola as a uncommon brand for HTC, they d hv market, they no need to lower down to do so much exciting thggy... for now LEGEND retail is 1999, for the spec of desire expect should be around 2500 above.. some more until now also dun hv any information from SIS... launch or not launch really nobody noe.. only 1 word "WAIT"Â If price difference is more, then we could save a quick buck by opting for the AP. Sometimes I'm cheap too. QUOTE(irenic @ May 11 2010, 04:44 PM) i buy AP coz i planning to root it anyway. somemore i got it cheaper than what most are selling. as long as u dont buy it higher than what SIS is selling, then i guess is ok. rooted ori at rm2,150 and rooted ap at rm2,150 is the same. because legally both have no warranty. Ya ya, no difference if its gonna be rooted. As long as people don't buy AP at higher than ori or close to ori price, there shouldn't be any buyer's remorse. Hehehehe...This post has been edited by davidmak: May 11 2010, 05:03 PM |
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May 11 2010, 05:11 PM
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May 11 2010, 05:27 PM
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May 12 2010, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 11 2010, 05:28 PM) Difference is quite big. It almost replaces the entire standard Android UI. Its something like a skin where all features are brought together on a central location plus excellent use of widgets. Most importantly, it complements the standard Android UI.QUOTE(8kelvin @ May 11 2010, 05:30 PM) Its something like buying a HTC Winmo phone because of the Sense UI rather than the dinosaur Winmo OS. For example, I know pretty well that Winmo 6.5.x is a dead end and its interface is really doubting. But I still bought the HD2 because Sense UI made it usable.So yes, a skin/interface shell like Sense UI typically make it unique and more importantly usable. All the important applications are right on the home screen and you'll never have to dig down into the menu to get to them. Lastly it is really more for eye candy than anything. At this moment, no one makes better Android phones than HTC. Yes, we do have Motorola, SE, Acer and a few others. But HTC phones are different (with an exception to the Milestone, its a beautiful device if not for that smallish RAM). If you notice, HTC is really the only manufacturer that pushes the hardware envelope. It is the first to introduce 512/576MB RAM, one of the first to use 1GHz processors, AMOLED screens, etc. Cause a typical geek or gadget enthusiast wants all the best stuff on a phone. HTC seems to be able to see that and ride on that success. |
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May 12 2010, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(squalledd @ May 12 2010, 10:10 AM) What is ROOT for? Is it to make the phone can save applications on the memory card? I heard the latest Android OS making it possible to do it without ROOT. Root is mainly to enable admin access so you can do whatever you want like installing applications onto memory card. Rumor has it that Android 2.2 aka Froyo may have this capability built in. But this is unconfirmed. Froyo seems to focus more on enabling Flash 10 than other implementations. |
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May 12 2010, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(squalledd @ May 12 2010, 12:06 PM) So if i want to do ROOT, then i should get the AP since the guarantee will be burn once i ROOT, doesn't it? AP is usually cheaper than Original but their price is not stable at the moment due to a lot of price speculation for the original SiS set. The risk is that you commit on AP today and then AP price drop further in the future. Worse is that the price you paid is near SiS price. Correct me if i am wrong... AP is supposed to be cheaper than Ori, right? If you root your phone, doesn't matter AP or original, you may lose warranty support. |
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May 12 2010, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(cleave @ May 12 2010, 06:50 PM) Ok, those of you Desire users who want app2sd but dont want to go into rooting and rather wait for froyo (2.2) to come out. I'll give you guys something to ponder. Froyo is due in June. When do you think HTC will graciously provide an official update? Maybe the custom modder community will be able to help us? Maybe just a plain generic Froyo ROM. Of course it might not have Sense UI. Go into the Hero thread and ask them about their long-awaited 2.1 update. |
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May 13 2010, 10:23 AM
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May 13 2010, 10:26 AM
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May 13 2010, 11:13 AM
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Sigh choices choices... hahahaha
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May 13 2010, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ May 13 2010, 11:19 AM) I think Android OS hardly utilize the trackball/trackpad rite? It can be useful if you type a lot and want to make corrections in between letters. Also for copy and paste within browser or some texts. But I remember Desire has an innovative way similar to iPhone in selecting passages for copy and paste. The optical trackpad only provide more accuracy when needed.So this might not be a solid comparison point to choose between Nexus and Desire. I might be wrong. Still newbie to Android OS On general navigation throughout the UI, yes it is not a must. |
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May 13 2010, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(benny888 @ May 13 2010, 03:15 PM) Torn between Nexus and Desire : read my review here where I feel the Desire is better : http://bennyleemn.blogspot.com/2010/04/htc...-nexus-one.html Remember to open sales thread if any hehehehe... Enjoy yourself tomorrow. Weekend is coming guys! I will be attending tomorrow launch at Suntec Spore . Will report back what is the pricing and any other special. Maybe being a sign up attendee can get discount ?? |
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May 14 2010, 10:10 AM
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