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post Apr 19 2010, 03:03 PM

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Dont fret yet, C's still holding its 10SMA (4.55) and bounced off its 4.40 support smile.gif Like DMC said, I personally believe that we are still bullish orientated, just that there might be a breather or two throughout this week.

There's always tonight's C earnings report which may indicate sentiment for the night smile.gif After hours, theres AAPL. For AAPL, its like 99% that they will beat estimates!! (Like last quarter, best EVER PERFORMING QUARTER!) thumbup.gif Btw, AAPL got upgraded after hours on Friday to USD 300 rclxm9.gif

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post Apr 19 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 19 2010, 03:22 PM)
Crazy price of AAPL. I rather pick others than AAPL. With same amount of cash, I can earn better with LVS or MGM than AAPL.
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Haha, me too smile.gif Just stating that with AAPL's most probably outstanding & mind blasting results, that should add a certain amount of cheer into the market unless something extremely horrible happens later like Greece goes to hell! LOL
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post Apr 19 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 19 2010, 03:35 PM)
remember GOOG? earning is good, but the "future" is uncertain plus higher overhead cost. I guess it will be the same with AAPL. If yes, then it will LIFT the market.  whistling.gif
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LOL, GOOG advertising related bro. With them pulling out of China (SUCH A HUGEEEEEE MARKET), that kinda worries investors a lot smile.gif

As for AAPL, they are constantly launching product revamps (software + hardware wise) + new innovative products (eg:iPad - check out their sales - had to delay international release as it was WAYYYYYY over in demand). Cash wise and liquidity, just check out their past 4 years, insanely cash rich, able to tap into all sorts of opportunites to invest or expand. Quarter on quarter, they beat estimates EVEN throughout the recession. Not once they reported negative earnings throughout the 2008-2009 crash.

If iam not mistaken, dmc said long ago that he has vested interest in AAPL, I kinda regret that I did not go in when it was USD 150+ as I felt it might not be worth while at that time but LOOK AT IT NOW! USD 300 is a really possible target. thumbup.gif If only I bought when Steve Job's was diagnosed with his sickness and the stock tumbled due to sentiment to 80+ LOL.
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post Apr 19 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 19 2010, 03:55 PM)
yes bro, I understood, what I'm trying to bring to the public attention is even though the profit of the GIANTS are good, there's always some creative accounting that makes it "unattractive"

yes, they are in 2 different CORE business, but you can relate the same to AAPL. Google also now in Smartphone market as well.

AAPL is not worth your penny. I remember bro DMC mentioned about it in Jan when AAPL was about 190+, not 150+ (sorry, no price of 150+ lately, only in June/July 2009).

Anyway, better buy RBS or LVS or MGM.. whistling.gif
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Yeah, i meant in 2009 not what DMC bought at LOL. I have no idea at what price did he get into it. Yeah, different CORE business and whatever AAPL seems to touch, they seem to be eating through, advancing towards market share leadership.

Definately gotta agree with u that RBS, LVS and MGM are awesome to trade smile.gif

Good luck to us alll smile.gif

Go go C!
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:55 AM

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Woooohoooooo! Awesome performance by C smile.gif

Got stopped out of my FXP at 39.68! Pretty good profit thumbup.gif

Wonderful C, oh wonderful C smile.gif Am happy I got a little more at pre market at 4.55 smile.gif

Tonight's the night where the bad boy (GS) will declare, hopefully they will outshine and push the financials further smile.gif

Am wondering if I should get some May 21 '10 USD 5 calls for C? Any thoughts dmc? brows.gif
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post Apr 20 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 20 2010, 08:52 AM)
Time to short C when she hit $5.01, right now my broker won't allow to SHORT C if it fall below USD5.

I'm kicking myself for covering the short of C. Bl**dy hell, now they say GS has a WEAK CASE. Somebody is making HUGE HUGE profit from this drama. WTF.

Big sharks always win
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Yeah, indeed. Big sharks always win !

Kinda expected the great GS to prevail as we all know, GS is GS la LOL. Really influential and politically linked (sounds familiar in this country as well right? brows.gif)

I think it might be a little risky to short C if C manages to close above USD 5 today. Up to u I guess.
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post Apr 20 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(redken @ Apr 20 2010, 01:48 PM)
3rd time lucky for C? I think tonight is another bull run.
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As long as GS post mind blowing results, we should see another good run up for C smile.gif Calls for May and June USD 5 strikes are increasing smile.gif
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 20 2010, 03:45 PM)
Then I will place my shorts at 5.15. whistling.gif
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Haha sure. Let me sell first la ok? smile.gif I sell my C at 5.15 to u ok? thumbup.gif
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 20 2010, 04:15 PM)
Haha, sure if can. Saw pre-market already 4.91. Lol, Yesterday run for cover when Doggie changed colour to RED. Then come the news saying that the GS case is weak..  shakehead.gif
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4.97 pre market ! thumbup.gif

Go go go, 5.15 ! LOL. Then i can sell my shares to zamans! cool2.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 20 2010, 10:18 PM)
Phew, managed to reduced C to 4.90. Damn, can't short now, its below USD5.00


Added on April 20, 2010, 10:18 pm

Bro, can you sell me at 5.15, please?
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Haha, i wished i could la bro. Unfortunately, cant LOL.

QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 21 2010, 04:31 AM)
Closing update
Dow 11117.06 +25.01 +0.23%
Nasdaq 2500.31 +20.20 +0.81%
S&P 500 1207.17 +9.65 +0.81%

Wow.. another push up today.  Didn't do any trading today. Just watch the green shoots to continue to grow bigger.  biggrin.gif

Will see if AAPL results can boost the tech sector up tomorrow.  smile.gif

Looks like SEC is on witch-hunt after Goldman Sach.
SEC already stated that they're looking into 19 banks.  What happens if C is one of them.  sweat.gif

Anyway, Goldman tanked today.. calls for Goldman to be banned in Europe is erupting!  brows.gif
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Hmmm, b4 C get's investigated (even if), let me clear majority of my C first please smile.gif TQVM ! AAPL blew past street estimates and YAHOO did pretty decently themselves, gonna see some nice movement in the tech sector tonight I guess. Oh yea dmc, is there an ETF that is bullish for the tech sector which is 3X? Any u recommend?

QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Apr 21 2010, 08:07 AM)
sell on rally.. buy on dip..

did not buy during dip, so nothing to sell this rally..

wait for another dip to enter..
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No worries, it will come soon smile.gif Another dip should be JUST AROUND the corner man rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 21 2010, 09:33 AM)
Yes, check out TYH, up 58% since Feb 8th low.  biggrin.gif
AAPL is in this fund.

Looks like my fav. mining stock TCK has a blowout quarter.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the ETF info, very illiquid though.

OMG TCK! Insane Net profittttt!! Hmm, may scalp some later man! Grats dude!
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post Apr 22 2010, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 22 2010, 12:31 AM)
You know what I'm buying now.. yes,I'm loading up on TCK.
They just have excellent quarter but coal and copper prices down now - that's great buying opportunity. 
Next cycle up to $46 or higher can be easily achieved.  wink.gif

Closing update:
Dow 11124.92 +7.86 +0.07%
Nasdaq 2504.61 +4.30 +0.17%
S&P 500 1205.93 -1.24 -0.10%

The market tonight see-saw like crazy.  doh.gif  Technicals are screaming overbought and wants to pull back,
but bulls keep buying the dip to keep this going, bears are dumping at the top. Still, market closed over a few points on the north side.  The bulls may attempt again tonight at 11150 and if it fails, triple top, bam, down it goes, we will see everyone back below 11K.  biggrin.gif
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Got to accumulate some TCK at 41.50 smile.gif Am quite pleased it didnt shoot all the way to 45 + yesterday if not I would not be able to catch it smile.gif Read up more in detail about them and it really looks like it's gonna be a more fruitful year ahead smile.gif Debt payment fully done by today, dividends might be reinstated really soon and their growth potential looks pretty good thumbup.gif I am with you on this dmc, TCK all da way! rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 22 2010, 09:06 AM)
Yes, start with a small position and accumulate during pullback. Bear in mind, mining stock like TCK is very price sensitive on copper and coal demand. Last year during the crisis, copper prices have plummeted and TCK went below $10 and severely under debt.  Also, China (Investment Corp) owns a lot of shares in this company 'coz they want those natural resources.  Now, its price is slowly coming back up. Just like FCX (the big brother of copper mining), another great company to own.    laugh.gif


Added on April 22, 2010, 9:14 am

Blame Goldman, the evil empire is shorting C from the top.  tongue.gif
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Yeah, blame goldman!! LOL

I doubt C will be able to hit past 5.05 for this week, with financial reform discussions this week, GS case pending & the CEO has to talk to the senate today IINM, mixed results between MS & WFC and taxation on the banks, looks like more downward pressure.

Thanks for the tip, might consider getting more if TCK breaks USD 40. Gonna watch Hang Seng closely today, if they break their 50MA and 200MA, might load up on some FXP pre market and maybe even more if jobless claims is crap! rclxm9.gif

May the force be with us! thumbup.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 22 2010, 10:00 AM)
All counters shows reddish closing after hours, which only can tell/suggest that the data in not favourable.

But the market sentiment is entirely different angle.

Hope to get C @ 4.50
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Asian markets are diving today!

Dow futures as well, down 32 at the moment.

Commodites too!

I guess now it all boils down to tonight's initial jobless claims & producer price inflation data thumbup.gif

If it all goes badly, 11,000 it is I guess and mr epal can Buy more on dip ! rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 22 2010, 10:10 AM)
Btw, what is up with Hang Seng anyway? Everyone there afraid of the clamp down in properties
by the central chinese govt?  biggrin.gif
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Yea, most likely + the fear of the appreciation of yuan that may dampen their net exporting status biggrin.gif

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post Apr 22 2010, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 22 2010, 10:35 AM)
Get both..  FXP for short-term play, TCK - buy the dip and keep it, sure to profit later.  laugh.gif
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Agreed!

Oh well, as for China, lots of sentiment just rattling lots of investors I guess smile.gif Oh well, as long as they are rattled, FXP is definately a nice play for short term trading icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(htt @ Apr 22 2010, 11:36 AM)
Ahead of you  tongue.gif  Offload part of my at 5.01014, after seeing it stagnant around 4.98~5.03 during opening... looking to get back tonight or so, hopefully... notworthy.gif
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Good job rclxms.gif

IMHO, I think financial stocks might get some hammering due to ALL the talk about the GS incident, Financials to be taxed on their 'crimes' & new financial reforms to be discussed today. So, maybe staying on the sidelines for a while might be a good conservative approach. cool2.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Apr 22 2010, 11:52 AM)
不入虎穴,焉得虎子。。。
We still have enough maggi mee to survive even if I loss all of that blush.gif
I still generally long on C... tongue.gif
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Haha, So am I smile.gif

Just stating that IF u can get in again at a better price, no harm waiting a little no? =)


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post Apr 22 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(honglun @ Apr 22 2010, 02:57 PM)
They're not investors...more like traders.
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Yooo! Long time no see! Your FXP is on da move!! Haha, most probably even more tonight smile.gif


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post Apr 22 2010, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(honglun @ Apr 22 2010, 03:02 PM)
Lol cut my losses cause I thought it's stupid to short China. But, oh well! Now moving on to C.
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Awww man..why?

I sure hope you bought C between 4-4.50 =) All da best with it =)

Live long and prosper! rclxm9.gif

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