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sulifeisgreat
post Jan 23 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Jan 23 2010, 08:33 AM)

What do you mean by a dip that never recover?

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ooops... it was suppose to mean, a dip which would take its own sweet time to recover, provided no bankruptcy laugh.gif (ie. no momo for roket fuel)
I hav no experience from dot com era, as not from tat era, but lots of stories & similarity available for reading, if u take time to do it nod.gif
eg. as below, siri has become an OTC (pink sheet), means no momo play there, only ikan bilis gamble there rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 23 2010, 10:54 PM

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Folks,

The dip that never recovers applied to some of those highly speculative stocks: CNET, CGMI, ONSL, Infoseek, etc, all been delisted. I can tell you this, I've survived the dot com bust in ten years ago, when the Nasdaq was going to 5K, I got bruised badly when it tanks. When it is time to cut loss, better do it! nod.gif

This weekend, I suggest that you look at your portfolio and start thinking about readjusting and rebalancing as well.
Start thinking about some of the defensive stocks - like PFE, GIS, MCD, FDO, T, etc.. and trim some of the speculative and banks or financial or even trading stocks. If you want to play those and especially 3x (like FAS, ERX, etc) be prepare to willing to risk them all and make sure it won't affect you.

For longs, as long you have a well diversified play - you do all ok. Remember, never ever put all eggs in one basket.
You can be a Bull or Bear just don't a Pig, and we all know what happens to a Pig. laugh.gif

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post Jan 23 2010, 11:55 PM

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With US and China government stopping the hot money and cooking activities, I guess bear has a big chance to come no matter in stock market and property market. Hope it will not affect economy.

I guess it is still not a time to enter US in large scale.
Perhaps can play small small for FAS.

Intuitively we think that DOW can dip to 9000 for this dip.
Prepare more money to put into fixed deposit when the time come.
Of course, prepare to buy cheap house with cash if the dip really comes.. smile.gif


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post Jan 24 2010, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Jan 23 2010, 11:55 PM)
With US and China government stopping the hot money and cooking activities, I guess bear has a big chance to come no matter in stock market and property market. Hope it will not affect economy.

I guess it is still not a time to enter US in large scale.
Perhaps can play small small for FAS.

Intuitively we think that DOW can dip to 9000 for this dip.
Prepare more money to put into fixed deposit when the time come.
Of course, prepare to buy cheap house with cash if the dip really comes.. smile.gif
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Dip to 9000 is not the problem, BELOW it, that's where 'W' may come true.

Btw, I'm squared up and ready! cool2.gif




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post Jan 25 2010, 03:32 PM

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is china much better than usa? usa has past its prime & no longer influential? only time will tell wink.gif
when can we see an active thread for china / hk shares in lyn forum? unless there exiss one in mandarin rclxub.gif

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post Jan 25 2010, 05:20 PM

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haha... non excitement day yawn.gif
since most of my position has been lighten, just monitoring from sidelines with popcorns cool2.gif
seems tonite usa will see (below a sample for any who did a quick short sweat.gif)

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post Jan 25 2010, 08:20 PM

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DOW futures is +70 points..


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post Jan 25 2010, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Jan 25 2010, 08:20 PM)
DOW futures is +70 points..
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Dow futures is not reliable anymore... It can just be opposites...Who knows tomorrow morning when I check-in, another shock.... laugh.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 10:36 PM

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Nice... we got a light Bernanke bounce here. Hopefully, the despair is lighten up. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 10:59 PM

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set to sell C at 3.40 for this bounce..

guess the bounce won't be long..
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:18 PM

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I also bought buffet stock, but its for my cucu sad.gif forever timeframe
anyone bought or was caught in the 3 day slide hmm.gif or waiting further correction?

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tis rebound / short squeeze not up to expectation, expected +100, VERY dissapointed vmad.gif
if market has factor in ben getting the votes, china rate rise insignificant, obama not getting votes to pass measures & etc
sumting else is providing a stumbling roadblock, at the moment can't figure out yet & not much news out there either rclxub.gif
wat is happening rolleyes.gif can't pinpoint yet but time to refill my popcorn as gonna yawn.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:19 PM

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I'm keeping all my bullets for now, kinda too unpredictable to go into the market right now, either for bears or bulls. Don't have the chance to stay up all night to monitor in case something massive happens.
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QUOTE(miuk @ Jan 25 2010, 11:19 PM)
I'm keeping all my bullets for now, kinda too unpredictable to go into the market right now, either for bears or bulls. Don't have the chance to stay up all night to monitor in case something massive happens.
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Don't worry guys, I monitor for you. I'm up all night here at my call center. Just hand me the keys. laugh.gif


Added on January 25, 2010, 11:43 pm
QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Jan 25 2010, 03:32 PM)
is china much better than usa? usa has past its prime & no longer influential? only time will tell  wink.gif
when can we see an active thread for china / hk shares in lyn forum? unless there exiss one in mandarin rclxub.gif
China was at least a century later than US.. then after the 70's, the century lagger has became decades and at this growth rate now it is approximately 10-15 years behind only.

We will definitely see China over pass US in our lifetime in terms of economic power. My only hope is China politically will change along with it and be as liberal and free as US, and only then China will be come the new USA. nod.gif








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post Jan 25 2010, 11:54 PM

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Wow, Uncle Ben is in d house and market moved up.

Shorts are Running for cover.

AAPL might move to 215 due to rumours that they might be terminating the exclusive contract with AT&T and run open - just like GOOG did.

Competition - here we comes!
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post Jan 26 2010, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jan 25 2010, 11:54 PM)
Wow, Uncle Ben is in d house and market moved up.

Shorts are Running for cover.

AAPL might move to 215 due to rumours that they might be terminating the exclusive contract with AT&T and run open - just like GOOG did.

Competition - here we comes!
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My price target for AAPL is 250 this year. rclxms.gif

Anyway, I think this small pause or bounce won't last. The fundamentals data from the Fed are really weak.
Hopefully, earnings are good enough to smooth out the downfall, otherwise we'll see a
dip back 200 days moving average (dow at 9300).

Update:
Sold my ERX 39.30, FUQI: 18.50 for small profit.

Waiting for more pullback. nod.gif



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post Jan 26 2010, 12:31 AM

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Looks like data is not good, stocks all retreating. Looks like roller coaster tonight.
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post Jan 26 2010, 07:39 AM

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DOW gains 23 points last night.

I think big boss is holding the price so that they can get out of the market.

All data shows US market will dip..

C has dropped to 3.23... I set cut off above 3.00.
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post Jan 26 2010, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Jan 26 2010, 07:39 AM)
DOW gains 23 points last night.

I think big boss is holding the price so that they can get out of the market.

All data shows US market will dip..

C has dropped to 3.23... I set cut off above 3.00.
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y so pessimitic? just bought buffet stock since everything looks rosy, since someone says enjoy the party rclxub.gif
usa quiet could be due to FOMC meeting, pasar awaiting their 'statement' which comes along with continue low int rate policy
but since usa does not affect the world, no worries, must continue be optimistic & buy more to support asia pacific markets cool2.gif
sgg hits another new high & I am not riding it cry.gif maybe reenter

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The Baltic Dry Index reflects how much shippers are able to charge to handle bulk dry cargo such as grains, raw sugar, iron ore, bauxite, and coal. If the order book to deliver new bulk carriers is higher than the demand for shipping, the Dry Index will fall. Shipowners will anchor their ship in roadsteads like Singapore. If the demand is down, it means countries like China aren’t going to be importing raw material like iron ore, coal and grains. It means the prices of basic commodties will fall. We already see oil refineries going off line for lack of demand. Since the transportation sector is the largest user of petroleum, it means trucks, planes, ships, railroads are carrying less tonnage. World trade is slowing down.

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post Jan 26 2010, 10:28 PM

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10000 here we come again! biggrin.gif

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yea, i guess hi 10000. XD

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