QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 13 2010, 12:54 PM)
Both teams were poor in the finals. That was my point. I have no question at all that Holland were dirty and De Jong should have been sent off without question. Then again so did Puyol. The final was littered with cynical fouling by the Dutch and flopping around by the Spanish. Both teams were a disgrace. And I thought it was funny as hell that Spain managed to get the Fairplay award. They should have gotten more yellow cards than they actually did, Puyol should have been off and Ramos as well for his last man foul on Ozil. So I can see where most people are coming when they say that refs looks like they are afraid to book Spanish players. The flopping around in the final itself should have probably gotten them a fair few bookings.
The fact remains that Spain were poor winners, the 8 goals in 7 matches clearly shows that yet still managed to win the title. Shows the standard of this particular WC.
With all due respect, Sid Lowe has been up the Spanish teams bung hole for quite a while now. It's like watching Alan Hansen write for Liverpool. No impartiality whatsoever.
Statistics do not tell the whole story, all this while you have been discrediting Spain for winning this World Cup, goal brings entertainment, no doubt, but has Spain been boring? Have they been lucky with their wins? The Germans scored 16 in this tournament but couldn't score against the Spanish, 1 penalty call turn down does not count for everything, the same applies to the English for their inability to score beyond 1 goal against the Germans after the disallowed goal from Lampard.
You failed to state out the amount of passes, shots created by the Spanish, the way they outplay the Dutch. I actually find this World Cup entertaining, with the Germans and Uruguay surprising everyone, Korea and the Japs as well. The 7 goals thrashing against the North Koreans, etc.
I'm just surprised, despite of the decision about the penalty turned down for the Germans, nobody from Germany complaint about the referee or the Spanish players play acting. The Dutch were whining about all the decision against them but were they not well deserved? Of course Webb did not have a perfect game, but if he had, Van Bommel and De Jong would have seen red in the first half. Usually I'd be more sympathetic, but after watching the game as well as reading some articles about the Dutch team blaming the referee, I lost respect towards this team. Yes, there were play acting in the Spanish side, but at least they played well, they dominated the possession as well as entertained us, people tell me that Robben had 2 good chances, but don't forget Villa had at least 2, Fab 1, a couple for Iniesta as well.
The Spanish side would have been despised if the Dutch played better football instead of kick boxing. But in this case, it looks like as if the Spanish were forced to be in this state just to make the Dutch less aggressive. Note: 2nd half when the Dutch team were less physical
When the Germans played against the Spanish, it was a good game even though there was only 1 goal scored, Ozil wasn't complaining and in fact, they accepted defeat graciously. I would very much prefer a Uruguay vs Spain final.
Jul 12 2010, 04:29 PM
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