How can you tell if that person is good just based on his gear score?

also if you are to judge based on his / her gear score ... what is the min Gear Score for the following

1. Onyx 10 Man
Tank -
DPS -
Healing -
2. Onyx 25 man
Tank -
DPS -
Healing -
3. TOC 10 man
Tank -
DPS -
Healing -
4. TOC 25 man
Tank -
DPS -
Healing -
5. Ulduar 10 man
Tank -
DPS -
Healing -
6. Ulduar 25 man
Tank -
DPS -
Healing -

I don't really care much about Nax cause is like everyone can go already....

This post has been edited by KennethNYC: Dec 3 2009, 12:15 AM

GS is crap...

I have 4.8k GS tanking gear 38k UB on my war and I DONT EVEN KNOW how to tank naxx...

I have 5.35k more or less max gs on my rogue, but I barely made to top10 in dps for 25man guild raids, i changed to arpen gears, around 5.2k gs and I'm top5... not to forget melee mostly are using lv200 trinkets like banner or victory n greatness... I have no luck with dv...

what i did these days is by asking explain certain phase on boss, know the fight is better than gears... =/

edited: update on gs score since I dont have it on for weeks

This post has been edited by alexision: Dec 3 2009, 02:03 AM

I agree. Gearscore is plain stupid.


No point having a GS 5000+ player which can't follow simple instructions.
You can have a person with GS 5000 but with no item enchants or gems in it, or having a bad talent spec.

Not to mention that Gearscore is a MAJOR bandwidth hog too. If you install Fubar_SpamMod, you will notice GS is sending in and out lots of invisible msgs between players and it is the main culprit for causing disconnection if you are logging in major cities and in raids too.

Yes, GS is just bad bad bad... thats why our guild bans it

In my opinion whoever created/uses this add-on should be shot. On the head. Repeatedly.

Yeah GS is a big NO-No in a few guilds now in Dreadmaul cos I guess it's about time that they realised ppl with high gear scores that dun know the fight is doomed to fail lolx. We had a 25man Ony fight and my gear score sux I assume cos my gears are mostly pvp gear and not that high lvl. lolx. Heck i'm still using my ilvl 135 trinket i think. And yet I still score among the top 5 dpser's lolx. Go figure. Must be my cyle. Anyways, back to the Ony fight. one pug party was created and they went on teh fight with the so-called high gear scores, while another one which I was in Had another one. Both raids started about hte same time and we finished well before them without a wipe. The "high geared" raid wiped 3 times! lolx and finished later. Lolx.

Let's hope more n more ppl would not look at GS to pug raids etc. it only gives newer players a fighting chance to get involved.

i kick those GS on in my PUG.

reason is L2skillz

I have a gear score 5.4k and never top dps or main tank

gearscore is retarded

case in point: i put on all my pvp gear.

what's the next lul thing after 'LF H ToC, pst GS'?

'LF H ToC, pst achievements'

Gearscore can also cause lag. Imagine your addon "whispering" to 24 other people in the raid for their item levels. And 24 other people in turn doing that to you. Install Spam-Fu and you can see just how much info Gearscore asks for and receives in a raid.

From my point of view, gearscore it not that bad.
its the way people using it is bad.
and i always switch off gs before fights

and i also remember thet day that my PVP welfare epic out score my pve gear , so i lied to get in a 25voa(and it work)

GS to me is a way for my main reminding me to do something bout the outdated gear.

main: hey bro, got a sec?
main: listen, i really like the should gear you give to me, really i do, but have you seen the guy just walk to the dalaran bank, oh i mean man that should looks stylish , he said ge get it from Ulduar and i think it will look awesome on MY shoulder.
main: so... could get one for me? pretty please ?
bank alt: OMG THATS NOT FAIR, I'M STILL STUCK IN LVL39, I NEED SOME LOVE TOO YOU KNOW .
main: stfu, bank don't talk

like that

i am currently trying to pug for raids

but they reject me cause i have less gear score

its utter crap....

oh course lah i know fights

This post has been edited by KennethNYC: Dec 3 2009, 09:59 PM

LOL, that happened a lot in my server. All you need is a decent tank and DPS who knows how to GTFO from cave/tail/breath.
I have seen geared groups doing stupid stuff like ZOMG WHELPSPAWNS LOLIHAVELEETGEARAOESPAMTOPDPSMETERS>OHSHITAGGRO>RUNNING AWAY FROM WHELPS AND OUTSIDE TANK RANGE and make whelp die slower, or even worse ignore adds and ZOMGHIGHDPS bring down Onyxia right when DBM warns whelp and elite spawning, then start blaming the tank for not picking whelps and elites when ony lands and fear everyone.

Its really stupid how the GearScore and Achievement system is ruining the game.

For example:
You want to start gearing a newly lvl alt. Lets say you start off with HTOC/Naxx gear.
You want to start raiding Trial of the Crusader asap, but people rejected you coz you don't have the "lolgearscore" for it.
So you try to get some LOLduar gear for to get so call "entry lvl gear" for loltoc.
When you want to join an Uld25, you will still get rejected coz most pugs expecting achievements from an old raid instance like lolduar.

Well of course, i know some of you say this is QQing and argue that i can buy badge gear etc. But you get my point.

its banned in my guild...
and i'm using a iLvL200 libram n trinket still ><

My Illustration of the Dragon Soul and Broodmother trinket at ilevels 213 & 219 respectively. However, they are so much better from that shit Volatily trinket from TOC.

So, should I wear that shit trink to artificially boost up my GS?

shit of crap of bullshit the add on was.............................................ppl still using this shit in a big scale.

I have certain ppl on my alt ignore list which i called Stupid ******* GS raid leader.

So no matter what u guys think, this shit will continues until the add on die along with it's owner.

the players ruined it, not the system

Having been away for more than 6 months... People generally take me for a noob, just cos I'm new to fights and have a 4.2k GS. I didn't even know WTF was gearscore, and they straight away called me Noob. like.... "LOL noob must be a noob, don't even know what's GS"

Then, I was in VoA. Never done the 2 new bosses. Died once to the 1st boss' Nova, I was already running out as I saw the cast, was just a tad bit in his range. Thing is, they ONLY told me about the enraged add and NOTHING about the nova, and I also almost got out of range. Instantly, everyone called me a noob and said if rogue loot drops they would DE it. Except for one shaman who told me about the boss in whisper. Next run, ended up I was no.2 on DPS with the lowest GS, the lock who talked the most cock died.

I agree that how players use Gearscore is absolutely idiotic. It does NOT judge a person's ability. It literally judges a book by its cover. Sigh, my 1st week back into WoW and I am already seeing why I got so frustrated at it....

id call you a noob too cuz theres so many sites available out there for boss strats. and lolwtf VOA.
assumingly you're a rogue, running out of novas? i lol'ed. also, Emalon is the second boss, koralon is the first.

with all that said against GS, it does have its point though. considering how easy it is to gear up in WOTLK, there is no reason to run around in greens or blues whether you're an alt #3893 or not.

i only log in maybe 4-5 days or even ONLY on the weekends, each login can vary from either 5-10 minutes, 1-2 hours to 5-8 hours tops. And i only mainly pvp as you all already knew. yet i still get get pretty good gear score (lol ilevel 245 welfare) having 5-7k dps++ (lol 13-14k dps on ony whelps) during PVE encounters.

i dont see why someone still need so much spoon feeding and carrying in a game thats already dumbed down and casualized to the bone. Again, that is not to take anything away from the hardcores as there are lolachievements, server first, heroic mode, hard mode, etc. Point being is that its really no excuse to get your damn gear on your damn alt, or spend 5 minutes to read up some lousy PUG standardized VOA strats.