id call you a noob too cuz theres so many sites available out there for boss strats. and lolwtf VOA.
assumingly you're a rogue, running out of novas? i lol'ed. also, Emalon is the second boss, koralon is the first.

with all that said against GS, it does have its point though. considering how easy it is to gear up in WOTLK, there is no reason to run around in greens or blues whether you're an alt #3893 or not.

i only log in maybe 4-5 days or even ONLY on the weekends, each login can vary from either 5-10 minutes, 1-2 hours to 5-8 hours tops.  And i only mainly pvp as you all already knew. yet i still get get pretty good gear score (lol ilevel 245 welfare) having 5-7k dps++ (lol 13-14k dps on ony whelps) during PVE encounters.

i dont see why someone still need so much spoon feeding and carrying in a game thats already dumbed down and casualized to the bone. Again, that is not to take anything away from the hardcores as there are lolachievements, server first, heroic mode, hard mode, etc. Point being is that its really no excuse to get your damn gear on your damn alt, or spend 5 minutes to read up some lousy PUG standardized VOA strats.

i'm still running around in greens or blues... no puggable dungeon runs due to roller coaster latency... even fel orcs from rampant can chop me down in 2 second lags... *sigh*

TMNut just gotten worst these few weeks and i'm thinking of calling helpline, request tier 2 technician, yelling at them for 2 consecutive weeks, then screw those technicians by putting blame on using notebook to troubleshoot and 'corrupted' my already corrupted-and-unusable windoze...

- back to the topic -

i'd usually would ask those who are more experienced with dungeon runs on what they are looking for, who they are looking for in raids and sadly the answer is either 'tanks' or 'heal bots'... being in thau (Alliance side) i know that alliance dun heal in bg and the 2 posts are needed a lot, and most of the time they aren't helping people to gear stuffs instead of ninjaing gears.

btw, i wonder who came up with such ideas on comparing GS inthe 1st place?

L2Play

is all I have to say

see, i made a rhyme, with my wasted time

id call you a noob too cuz theres so many sites available out there for boss strats. and lolwtf VOA.
assumingly you're a rogue, running out of novas? i lol'ed. also, Emalon is the second boss, koralon is the first.

with all that said against GS, it does have its point though. considering how easy it is to gear up in WOTLK, there is no reason to run around in greens or blues whether you're an alt #3893 or not.

i only log in maybe 4-5 days or even ONLY on the weekends, each login can vary from either 5-10 minutes, 1-2 hours to 5-8 hours tops.  And i only mainly pvp as you all already knew. yet i still get get pretty good gear score (lol ilevel 245 welfare) having 5-7k dps++ (lol 13-14k dps on ony whelps) during PVE encounters.

i dont see why someone still need so much spoon feeding and carrying in a game thats already dumbed down and casualized to the bone. Again, that is not to take anything away from the hardcores as there are lolachievements, server first, heroic mode, hard mode, etc. Point being is that its really no excuse to get your damn gear on your damn alt, or spend 5 minutes to read up some lousy PUG standardized VOA strats.

C'mon Quaza, who would have thought one has to read up on VoA strats. Its VoA ffs and I assumed it would be cake which it was, they only told me to attack enraged add when I see one and left out the rest of the details. If it was a raid like ToC I would read it up, which I have. I tried to run out of that nova because I used my CoS upon standing on that fire and taking some damage due to it being tanked on the yellowish shiny part of the ground.

Its not about getting spoon fed for my case. If I know the boss in the raid for VoA and someone asked, I would just politely type these words.

"There'll be fire on ground, look out for nova, attack enraged add."

There. Not difficult at all, its VoA. Instead, I get punks stroking their e-peens just because they've done this boss before and have higher GS. Pathetic.

Alts should have no problem gearing up if they know who your main is. Unless your main is a noob, then its gonna be even harder than being an unknown alt.

id call you a noob too cuz theres so many sites available out there for boss strats. and lolwtf VOA.
assumingly you're a rogue, running out of novas? i lol'ed. also, Emalon is the second boss, koralon is the first.

with all that said against GS, it does have its point though. considering how easy it is to gear up in WOTLK, there is no reason to run around in greens or blues whether you're an alt #3893 or not.

i only log in maybe 4-5 days or even ONLY on the weekends, each login can vary from either 5-10 minutes, 1-2 hours to 5-8 hours tops.  And i only mainly pvp as you all already knew. yet i still get get pretty good gear score (lol ilevel 245 welfare) having 5-7k dps++ (lol 13-14k dps on ony whelps) during PVE encounters.

i dont see why someone still need so much spoon feeding and carrying in a game thats already dumbed down and casualized to the bone. Again, that is not to take anything away from the hardcores as there are lolachievements, server first, heroic mode, hard mode, etc. Point being is that its really no excuse to get your damn gear on your damn alt, or spend 5 minutes to read up some lousy PUG standardized VOA strats.

C'mon Quaza, who would have thought one has to read up on VoA strats. Its VoA ffs and I assumed it would be cake which it was, they only told me to attack enraged add when I see one and left out the rest of the details. If it was a raid like ToC I would read it up, which I have. I tried to run out of that nova because I used my CoS upon standing on that fire and taking some damage due to it being tanked on the yellowish shiny part of the ground.

Its not about getting spoon fed for my case. If I know the boss in the raid for VoA and someone asked, I would just politely type these words.

"There'll be fire on ground, look out for nova, attack enraged add."

There. Not difficult at all, its VoA. Instead, I get punks stroking their e-peens just because they've done this boss before and have higher GS. Pathetic.

Alts should have no problem gearing up if they know who your main is. Unless your main is a noob, then its gonna be even harder than being an unknown alt.

sorry..the 1st boss is Archavon..followed by Emalon and the last boss(3rd) a.k.a the new boss is Koralon
u both were wrong 

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Added on December 4, 2009, 8:02 pm
lol which boss is exactly that u fought?Emalon(enraged adds with LIGHTNING nova)..Koralon(fire patch with shiny yellow floor on the middle and FIRE breath)
or u in a pug that attempting Earth, Wind & Fire achievement?
btw u cant run from the fire 'nova' from Koralon

meh since when ANYONE considered the boss creation order as the actual order? its always the free looting order that counts /gg

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Added on December 4, 2009, 8:02 pm
lol which boss is exactly that u fought?Emalon(enraged adds with LIGHTNING nova)..Koralon(fire patch with shiny yellow floor on the middle and FIRE breath)
or u in a pug that attempting Earth, Wind & Fire achievement?
btw u cant run from the fire 'nova' from Koralon

wait, enraged add, standing on fire, nova, did you just fought heroic VOA with emalon and koralon TENGEN TOPPA GATTAI'ED?

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

seriously though:
- taking 5 minutes of your time and read voa strats, free epics
- or failing voa and being a noob, risking a raid kick

not that hard of a choice right?

Ok, firstly i'm a known pugger on Kalecgos and have tons of experience pugging TOC10/25, TOGC, Ulduar 10/25, OS3, VOA10/25 etc...
Gearscore shouldn't be thought of as an absolute. It's just for generally checking people.

For example if your doing TOC25, but someone registers as gearscore 2500, their obviously wearing blues or greens not even ready for it. Either that or they are not wearing their full gear. Check if their naked or wearing an alt spec gear set.

If they are wearing PVP gear, ignore their gearscore and deduct a few hundred points off it. PVP gear is known to inflate gearscores and it hardly useful for pve encounters. I usually tend not to invite people with PVP gear.
After doing gearscore, check what gear they have. Their gear tells you a story where they have raided. For example if they got Heart of Iron, means they've killed Ignis in Ulduar 25 before.... If they have the Crusader Glory sword itemlevel 245, means that they have killed Anub in TOC25.... basically you want people who from their gear seem to have quite some raiding experience, otherwise how else would they get gear from these bosses??? (unless they bought their accounts which is usually rare)

for TOC10 and 25 i usually bring gearscore 4600+. For TOC10 the lowest you can get is probably gearscore 4200-4400
Tanks should have the highest gear score, followed by DPS. Healers can have the minimum gearscore. They should also be skilled healers :/
Gearscore just tells you generally how well geared they are, but it doesn't tell you if they are skilled. Maybe if they were TOGC and Ulduar hardmode gear it is 90% likely though they are very skilled.

For example if your doing TOC25, but someone registers as gearscore 2500, their obviously wearing blues or greens not even ready for it. Either that or they are not wearing their full gear. Check if their naked or wearing an alt spec gear set.

If they are wearing PVP gear, ignore their gearscore and deduct a few hundred points off it. PVP gear is known to inflate gearscores and it hardly useful for pve encounters. I usually tend not to invite people with PVP gear.