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post Mar 12 2010, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Mar 12 2010, 09:46 AM)
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post Mar 12 2010, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(SkyBlue99 @ Mar 11 2010, 10:19 PM)
50mm 1.4D
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Added on March 12, 2010, 10:18 am
QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Mar 11 2010, 10:24 PM)
50mm f1.4d

if u got more budget.. get 50mm 1.4G  biggrin.gif
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50mm 1.4G out of budget le, hah >.


Added on March 12, 2010, 10:22 am
QUOTE(noobie1 @ Mar 11 2010, 11:24 PM)
i would suggest 35mm F2, if you are able to get 50mm 1.4, then shud have no problem getting 35mm f2...
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35mm F2..okey, let me try it 1st at the shop


Added on March 12, 2010, 10:25 am
QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Mar 12 2010, 08:23 AM)
50mm and 35mm is a lot of diff in terms of view angle! if u want low light + wide.....24mm f/1.4
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24mm f/1.4 ?!! That's a new lens right ? how much would it cost?!

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post Mar 12 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Mar 11 2010, 06:00 PM)
8gb class 10 for rm92???? so cheap biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

noob question here. let's say i want to take a picture of someone at 200mm, during sunset like that, max aperture with 'steady' shutter speed n max ISO but pic still too dark. so if i use sb600, will the flash 'reach' my subject?
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actually can reach, if you use 200mm focal length and stick your lens right at his face. tongue.gif


Added on March 12, 2010, 10:40 amthanks for all your concerns. well, at rm52, if it reaches only class 4 speed, it's still ok price right?

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post Mar 12 2010, 11:07 AM

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Added on March 12, 2010, 11:10 am
QUOTE(munyip7 @ Mar 12 2010, 10:34 AM)
actually can reach, if you use 200mm focal length and stick your lens right at his face. tongue.gif


Added on March 12, 2010, 10:40 amthanks for all your concerns. well, at rm52, if it reaches only class 4 speed, it's still ok price right?
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sorry for the noobie question as i don't own external flash..
what does you all means by sb600 cannot reach if use 200mm focal length? thanks. blush.gif


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post Mar 12 2010, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Mar 12 2010, 11:07 AM)


sorry for the noobie question as i don't own external flash..
what does you all means by sb600 cannot reach if use 200mm focal length? thanks.  blush.gif
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because the maximum zoom that it can cover is up until 85mm(stated inside the manual)..but i think,if manually set the power at 1/1 it might can cover until 100-110mm..
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post Mar 12 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(zackskate666 @ Mar 12 2010, 11:20 AM)
because the maximum zoom that it can cover is up until 85mm(stated inside the manual)..but i think,if manually set the power at 1/1 it might can cover until 100-110mm..
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i did some browsing and know that the max it can cover is 85mm.
but then, what will happen if i were to use lens higher than this, eq. 200mm lens? the flash wont fire at all or what will happen in this case?
sorry for noobie question... blush.gif
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post Mar 12 2010, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Mar 12 2010, 11:34 AM)
i did some browsing and know that the max it can cover is 85mm.
but then, what will happen if i were to use lens higher than this, eq. 200mm lens? the flash wont fire at all or what will happen in this case?
sorry for noobie question...  blush.gif
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If you zoom to 200mm, but your range with your subject is maybe short distance (some headshot portrait maybe?) the flash will still reach. Instead of covering for 200mm only, it'll cover for 85mm instead. Meaning some light would be wasted la.

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post Mar 12 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 12 2010, 11:48 AM)
If you zoom to 200mm, but your range with your subject is maybe short distance (some headshot portrait maybe?) the flash will still reach. Instead of covering for 200mm only, it'll cover for 85mm instead. Meaning some light would be wasted la.
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correct me if i'm wrong...
let say i'm using sb600 and shooting with 200mm on object that is 20m away. the flash will still be fired, but then the light wont reach the object?
the final output is something same like without using any flash at all?

same scenario, but this time i'm using sb900. since it's more powerful and have higher reach, it will be able to to reach the object and light it up?

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post Mar 12 2010, 12:04 PM

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the light will still reach,but wont as bright as a sb900 if im not wrong...anyway,anybody can explain to me clearly about GN numbers??
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QUOTE(zackskate666 @ Mar 12 2010, 12:04 PM)
the light will still reach,but wont as bright as a sb900 if im not wrong...anyway,anybody can explain to me clearly about GN numbers??
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read from kenrockwell, seem like GN number is related to the focal length (the question i'm asking).
hope sifu here can enlighten newbies like us.. rclxms.gif

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb600.htm
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post Mar 12 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Mar 12 2010, 11:58 AM)
correct me if i'm wrong...
let say i'm using sb600 and shooting with 200mm on object that is 20m away. the flash will still be fired, but then the light wont reach the object?
the final output is something same like without using any flash at all?

same scenario, but this time i'm using sb900. since it's more powerful and have higher reach, it will be able to to reach the object and light it up?
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My understand is that, when you shoot at 200mm the light is more concentrated. Meaning it will be able to go further since it will only light up a small portion when compared to a wide end like 18mm or something.


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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 12 2010, 01:53 PM)
My understand is that, when you shoot at 200mm the light is more concentrated. Meaning it will be able to go further since it will only light up a small portion when compared to a wide end like 18mm or something.
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sorry bro.. cant really comprehend what you trying to say... blush.gif
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post Mar 12 2010, 02:11 PM

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guys have u heard any rumours this year gonna b new model replace D90? still thinking should upgrade to D90 now or wait till d replacement out
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post Mar 12 2010, 02:23 PM

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Celciuz is correct.
The SB900 will concentrate its coverage only on the relevant area, area which the camera/lens is capturing. Its like .... why you have to flash the whole damm hall if youre zooming in tight at 200mm to only capture the table at a corner right ? So the flash knows what sort of coverage the lens is at ... because its no longer a dumb flash like those before it ... no offense SB8 / SB6 /SBwateva .. RIP~ smile.gif
Anyway ...its kind of an intelligent stuff that Nikon put in their new flash... not verrryyy intelligent but i dont hate it either smile.gif
Actually the whole techincality bla bla about this 'mechanism/technique' on the SB900 is available on Nikon's website for you to read .. i think. You should try go there smile.gif
Good luck.

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post Mar 12 2010, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Mar 12 2010, 02:23 PM)
Celciuz is correct.
The SB900 will concentrate its coverage only on the relevant area, area which the camera/lens is capturing. Its like .... why you have to flash the whole damm hall if youre zooming in tight at 200mm to only capture the table at a corner right ? So the flash knows what sort of coverage the lens is at ... because its no longer a dumb flash like those before it ... no offense SB8 / SB6 /SBwateva .. RIP~ smile.gif
Anyway ...its kind of an intelligent stuff that Nikon put in their new flash... not verrryyy intelligent but i dont hate it either smile.gif
Actually the whole techincality bla bla about this 'mechanism/technique' on the SB900 is available on Nikon's website for you to read .. i think. You should try go there smile.gif
Good luck.
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thanks for the info.
does this means that SB600 which only have range up to 85mm wont be intelligent enough to concentrate on the coverage if we use focal length above 100mm?
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post Mar 12 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Mar 12 2010, 02:34 PM)
thanks for the info.
does this means that SB600 which only have range up to 85mm wont be intelligent enough to concentrate on the coverage if we use focal length above 100mm?
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lol, not cos not intelligent enuf, is SB600 power not capable of such high power flash sweat.gif

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post Mar 12 2010, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Mar 12 2010, 02:34 PM)
thanks for the info.
does this means that SB600 which only have range up to 85mm wont be intelligent enough to concentrate on the coverage if we use focal length above 100mm?
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To put it bluntly ... yes SB600 is less intelligent than SB900 plus its just built that way ... not enough power. The SB600 has a moving head inside to adjust for a more focused beam just like the SB800/900, but it doesnt have the whole snooty winged bla bla built inside for a more advanced concentration like the SB900 has.
But personally, ive seen the SB600 working just fine at 105mm full power .. but thats it. For my need and style of photography, the SB600 wont do it at ...say 110 and longer.

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post Mar 12 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Mar 12 2010, 03:01 PM)
To put it bluntly ... yes SB600 is less intelligent than SB900 plus its just built that way ... not enough power. The SB600 has a moving head inside to adjust for a more focused beam just like the SB800/900, but it doesnt have the whole snooty winged bla bla built inside for a more advanced concentration like the SB900 has.
But personally, ive seen the SB600 working just fine at 105mm full power .. but thats it. For my need and style of photography, the SB600 wont do it at ...say 110 and longer.
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thanks for the explanation.. it's time for me to digest all these info... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 12 2010, 11:58 PM

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wow lots of reply after my flash range question...thanks a lot all biggrin.gif

i didnt know flashguns can converge the light when zooming hehehe. if sb600 can only reach up to 85mm then i guess no use for me getting 18-200... since 86-200 the flash wont reach n the aperture is pretty low already, so most likely i'll end up with shaky shots unless it's a sunny day.. am i right?

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