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Jitty
post Apr 12 2021, 04:36 PM

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i like to extremely white house.
Any good and nice white color paint from JOTUN recommendation?

Thanks.
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post Apr 12 2021, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Apr 12 2021, 04:36 PM)
i like to extremely white house.
Any good and nice white color paint from JOTUN recommendation?

Thanks.
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There are many shades of white.
For standard A4 paper white the economy paint will work fine.
Ie jotun jotaplast 18L for 64 bucks type..cheap and good pure white, or can also use nippon matex 18L economy white.

For A4 paper white that is on the standard series (not the 18L economy paint) pure white colour code 0001 from about 90 bucks for jotun 5L easy clean essence. If paying for colour paint price to get white..seems more fun to get colour paint instead?

For tinted white (things like crimson white la, lily white, swan white, egg white, all those 50 shades of white) it will be on the jotun colour paint series. Between 0001, light, medium, dark PM code will have slight surcharge for colours.

Above all will work for interior.
Exterior paint weathershield type recommended.
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post Apr 13 2021, 08:42 AM

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Anyone here is using/used plaster paint (lime wash, tadelakt, etc.) in their homes?

Just want to get an idea on the difference in relation to cost compared against normal paint. Thanks.
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post Apr 13 2021, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Apr 12 2021, 04:36 PM)
i like to extremely white house.
Any good and nice white color paint from JOTUN recommendation?

Thanks.
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Try jotun chi 7236
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post Apr 14 2021, 04:30 PM

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hi my current room painted dark blue and light green (ex house owner)
is it easy for me to get white color paint re-paint my own?
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post Apr 14 2021, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Apr 13 2021, 09:58 PM)
Try jotun chi 7236
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this white is very very nice.
love it. thanks biggrin.gif
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post Apr 15 2021, 01:51 AM

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hi, is matex or maxilite good enough for repainting rooms ?

how much does it cost (labour) for repainting 2 rooms (walls + ceiling) with matex/maxilite ?
both room size should be ~400sf

any recommendation for reliable painting workers ?
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post Apr 15 2021, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(no6 @ Apr 15 2021, 01:51 AM)
hi, is matex or maxilite good enough for repainting rooms ?

how much does it cost (labour) for repainting 2 rooms (walls + ceiling) with matex/maxilite ?
both room size should be ~400sf

any recommendation for reliable painting workers ?
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If existing old paint is not powdery and walls are not damp.. you can just paint yourself, ladder required of course. 18L paint only 65 bucks, other materials like paint roller etc also cheap. 2 18L tubs and roller, roller refills etc will not exceed 200.

As the labour price probably lumpsum basis coz small area also need time to wait for paint to dry. Labour exclude paint also will open price 1.2k to 1.5k thereabouts, hence more cost effective paint yourself.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 15 2021, 02:04 AM)
If existing old paint is not powdery and walls are not damp.. you can just paint yourself, ladder required of course. 18L paint only 65 bucks, other materials like paint roller etc also cheap. 2 18L tubs and roller, roller refills etc will not exceed 200.

As the labour price probably lumpsum basis coz small area also need time to wait for paint to dry. Labour exclude paint also will open price 1.2k to 1.5k thereabouts, hence more cost effective paint yourself.
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thanks for sharing.
so basically matex / maxilite is good enough right ? and the sealer is needed if the walls are damp right

you reckon 18L is suffice for 2 rooms ? the painter quoted 5L though.


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post Apr 15 2021, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(no6 @ Apr 15 2021, 10:30 AM)
thanks for sharing.
so basically matex / maxilite is good enough right ? and the sealer is needed if the walls are damp right

you reckon 18L is suffice for 2 rooms ? the painter quoted 5L though.
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4.5L covered two coats of a long living room 8m*3.3m in my experience. For colour paint.

Sealer recommended if walls are damp or existing paint is chalky.

18L cheap cheap only.. half the price is 7L if economy matex. Idk how the painter paint until super thin but the thing about economy paint it needs 0-1% dilution otherwise its runny and since its already pre-thinned to be cheap, the coverage sometimes need 2 coats if old paint is discoloured.
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post Apr 15 2021, 10:47 AM

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Noob question here,
i cant quite seems to get the roller brush to roll on smooth wall.Any tips?Or i am doing it wrong?
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post Apr 15 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(thenuts15 @ Apr 15 2021, 10:47 AM)
Noob question here,
i cant quite seems to get the roller brush to roll on smooth wall.Any tips?Or i am doing it wrong?
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Easiest way, buy a new SMALL roller with changeable roller refills. You should not overload the roller with too much paint. Before start, make sure the roller is able to spin freely. If it already start to jam even before you use it, using such faulty roller doesn't solve the fault laugh.gif

Using the BIG roller for those who don't do it as a trade only magnify any problem with the roller i.e. stuck rollers or imbalanced (handle not centered). It also tires you out easily unless your arm strength is very good. Lousy rollers that don't spin well also create a lot of |||||| skipped spot issue.

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Between the SMALL roller (driving a small car like kelisa) - anyhow also easy to drive, easy to park.
The BIG roller is like driving a truck. It works well for big area only if you know how to pick a good one and use it well.

P.P.S. Sometimes stuck roller need to remove and reinsert again the other way. Or press it in more for non-removable type (it may have slipped out of correct position).

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post Apr 15 2021, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 15 2021, 10:54 AM)
Easiest way, buy a new SMALL roller with changeable roller refills. You should not overload the roller with too much paint. Before start, make sure the roller is able to spin freely. If it already start to jam even before you use it, using such faulty roller doesn't solve the fault laugh.gif

Using the BIG roller for those who don't do it as a trade only magnify any problem with the roller i.e. stuck rollers or imbalanced (handle not centered). It also tires you out easily unless your arm strength is very good. Lousy rollers that don't spin well also create a lot of |||||| skipped spot issue.

Between the SMALL roller (driving a small car like kelisa) - anyhow also easy to drive, easy to park.
The BIG roller is like driving a truck. It works well for big area only if you know how to pick a good one and use it well.
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alright, thanks for the tips.No wonder professional painted use small roller

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QUOTE(thenuts15 @ Apr 15 2021, 10:58 AM)
alright, thanks for the tips.No wonder professional painted use small roller
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For BIG roller this is important.
I have used non-centered rubbish roller before (for flat walls). Not a fun experience.

Non centered ones may have its special purpose like painting external piping on high rise building facade, but being unbalanced it tires you out very easily.

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post Apr 15 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 15 2021, 10:40 AM)
4.5L covered two coats of a long living room 8m*3.3m in my experience. For colour paint.

Sealer recommended if walls are damp or existing paint is chalky.

18L cheap cheap only.. half the price is 7L if economy matex. Idk how the painter paint until super thin but the thing about economy paint it needs 0-1% dilution otherwise its runny and since its already pre-thinned to be cheap, the coverage sometimes need 2 coats if old paint is discoloured.
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would it be better to get better/thicker paint ( i.e. nippon easywash / perfect white ) if one does not wish to run through 2 coats of paints ?

0-1% dilution is really very small percentage, is the same applicable for nippon easywash ?
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post Apr 15 2021, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(no6 @ Apr 15 2021, 11:08 AM)
would it be better to get better/thicker paint ( i.e. nippon easywash / perfect white ) if one does not wish to run through 2 coats of paints ?

0-1% dilution is really very small percentage, is the same applicable for nippon easywash ?
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Depends on level of OCDness.
Actually that 8m x 3.3m x 2 coats = 4.5L came from Easywash colour paint.
It may vary depending on wall texture, rougher wall will use more paint than a skimmed perfectly flat one.

I felt the single coat undiluted easywash still missed a few dots here and there, to bring out full oomph 2 coats result was better than single coat.
Dilution stretches more paintable area at the expense of risking less solidness. I prefer very kiamsiap dilution so it doesn't drip everywhere.

For white colour economy matex x 2 coats will be more economical, 65 gets 18L enough to play around - whereas 98 bucks only 5L easywash.

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post Apr 16 2021, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Apr 14 2021, 07:31 PM)
this white is very very nice.
love it. thanks  biggrin.gif
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My whole house using chi, super duper white. Another color you can consider is skylight, both very white, but i noticed chi is more cold, skylight is slightly more warm and milky`ish. Since my house is mostly white, black, wooden color, chi suits me better. If your house have more pastel color like my sister who is going to renovate her room, we agreed that skylight looks better for her room.
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post Apr 16 2021, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Apr 16 2021, 08:30 AM)
My whole house using chi, super duper white. Another color you can consider is skylight, both very white, but i noticed chi is more cold, skylight is slightly more warm and milky`ish. Since my house is mostly white, black, wooden color, chi suits me better. If your house have more pastel color like my sister who is going to renovate her room, we agreed that skylight looks better for her room.
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yesterday I went to JOTUN showroom.
they recommend chi, skylight and 0001 white

I still having dilemma which to choose.
might take 0001 based on the picture below


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post Apr 16 2021, 02:45 PM

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You can buy a litre of each and test it out. Try to paint a bigger patch of the wall, if too small, the perception of the color might be affected by surrounding colors. You can paint other color next to it to have a better picture of how each color match one another.

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For my case, I painted on 2 wall, one with ample sunlight, and one without much sunlight (my lightings are not ready at that moment), just to see the color in bright and dark environment. If possible you can try under different lighting as well, even different light temperature will deliver different "color" effect.

Paint sample on the brochure CAN BE very different on real wall, don't decide based on the brochure.

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post Apr 22 2021, 08:45 PM

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For interior paint, should I go for Jotun, Nippon, or Dulux? Which one is better?

I'm looking for white color.

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