woot grats

Hmnn, what is karuk? o.o

Rambo air pump last time i bought around rm200 or so (subject to k.l pricing)

prawn....lotsa prawn ;p

i gave up on crikets on my side cuz they just keep dying and i'm not gonna go spend a vent fan for them just to keep em alive or something (cuz i heard that they need to have air flowing around a bit...cant stay at stagnant air)..

I just stick to mp as the staple diet and sw, live krill and when later bigger only will start to give froggie

nah...i dont give my aro eat dead crickets...cuz when they die, the body of the cricket starts to go into a decomposing stage where the shell softens and its organs start to rot....mind me, but the way i see it they really rot fast and thats by the minutes...

cuz as soon as the crickets die, the rotting organs give off a scent that attracts the ants, which in a hour of the cricket's death you will usually see a lot of ants trying to get a piece of it each!

My method of keeping the ants away at first was to put 4 small ....very small plastic fish containers into a very large plastic fish container...
and around the 4 fish container is surrounded by a very shallow depth of water,....this prevented the ants from reaching the crickets very effectively but it didnt stop the crickets from dying....

so i was advised that it was because there was no ventilation and the stagnant air is what caused the crickets to suffocate and die....the only solution to what i oledy established (water barrier) is to buy a computer fan and let it run on top of the large plastic fish container...

but come to think of it....so much trouble for crickets when super worms provide just the same nutritional content.....
+worms are so much easier to keep and they are so hardy...very hard to die...and they got thier own sandy poo which makes them smell even more yummy for the aro...
where as crickets are harder to keep and noisy at night =.="

so yeah, i've given up on feeding crickets completely lol



now my issue is with my aro's diet....wheneva i feed the worms, the following day it wont eat the mp >.<" its trying to object to the mp =.="

i have to starve it for a day or two to get it to start eating mp again zzzzz

sorry my mistake lol, its actually ghost shrimp.....i tot they were the same thing at first lol

i usually feed the ghost shrimp (gs) with blood worms then i pick the gs up and use my finger to break off the small razor horns and cut off the pointly thingy at the tail and hold em by the long feelers on the surface of the water...
then the aro comes and CHOMP, Nyom nYoM NyOM ....buRrrrP!!

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 1 2010, 08:51 AM

lol gs is small wan mar

my camera is unable to take the pic of the gs, its too small LOL

to me the gs is the best medium for bw transfer

my place here sell rm2 for small quantity, my aro can eat around 10gs or so, then the rest left over i will pour out the water and put them into container to freeze dry before the bw get finish digested in them.

Later next day i will bring out the dry frozen gs to thaw and then feed back again (make sure to break the horn) lol.

Ya...i know...freeze dry the gs is quite cruel

hahahaha yah

thats y, use chopsticks
my aro ar...even if ntg on the chopstick will also jump at the chopstick wan...too used to it oledy...

sometimes i will just use the chopstick to move around the surface it will chase the chopstick like crazy!!! good exercise method!!!

wat type of experiment are u thinking of?
issit for college bio-class assignment, where you want to test the behavioral characteristics of the animal based on your thesis?

cuz if you are thinking of experimenting in the sense of dissecting or experimenting new dishes...then we will look for you and shoot you lol



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hey, today i went to lfs to ask about how the aro's get their calcium for bones, cuz i was worried about the fish bone structure not being strong enuf.
the lfs owner said its very little from the feeder fish/prawn shells that we give.....some of it comes from the vitamins we put in the water too....and a bit from the water itself o.o

He advised that some ppl actually inject the vitamin soln to the super worms itself then feed it to the aro straight after....


i was like @.@ at the injecting part cuz i myself afraid of needles (unless its comming from a very pretty nurse )
so just wana ask if anyone has tried doing that before...like inject the vita to worms ....and where do we get those injection needles neways lol!? arent they like banned from public hahaha (i doubt clinics or pharmacies would provide.....even if you tell them you wana stick a worm and make it super [they'd probly get the wrong idea....if ye know what i mean ])

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 4 2010, 06:44 PM

yah probly, i was kidding about the shoot bit

@ben
aih...the images are blocked here at my work place zzzz
when i go back only can see....are they different types of sw from the normal brownish hardshelled types we get here at k.l/selangor?

hmnn mine also i buy one box of a about 120 sw with all the woodchips. I dun feed fruits and stuff..just mainly the hikari sticks that my aro refuse to eat lol...never faced any ants comming to the sw before, only with crickets i get that....or probly cuz mine is hanging at the top of the aquarium water lol

How do you feed the aro cucumber and how much? i oso interested to try but scared cuz i never fed cucumbers directly like that before haha....its still strange to me lol

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 5 2010, 04:20 PM

yeah, come to think of it, my sw all in the dark wan...keep in cabinet etc no issues at all.
1kg of sw ar...thats too much man lol
i wud suggest buying small quantity unless you got like a whole pond of aro/koi then 1kg of sw is worth it.
For me i trying to get my aro to take in mp as the staple food.

For the cucumber rite, how many slice and how thick the slice? sorry lol i'm just very curious

dunno lol i never bought 1kg before, must be crazy a lot cuz those things are like very light even in a small container of about 120....if i kg i'd be guessing a whole bucket full :S

i tried feeding carrots directly today...it just spat it out lol, so i stuck it into the chopped mp and it took it down without knowing whahaaaaha lololol
i'll try direct cucumber tmr

ya i casually selling the ornate bichir....i dont mind keeping it either cuz its a good one and its gotten bigger lately....but at the same time i dun mind lessening the feeding needs and thus bio load as well...altho the bb's seem to be more than capable of handling it anyways
that ad quite long ago oledy lol, aaaalll the way at the back :S

now i just thinking if that lfs actually can sell me a needle to inject the sw with vitamin soln....i have a bit of uneasy feeling doing that...i scared too much vita direct fed to the aro oso not good :S




recently after long hours of observation. i have discovered that the aro cannot really see the food i use my chopsticks to hold on top of the water...when the tank lights are off =.="
its like i sorta notices but at the same time it cant see it o.o

here's the scenario, usually at about 8pm when my tank lights are on, i just hold the worm out on the chopsticks about 2 cm above the water and the aro gets really excited and gets into position to pounce at the worm and slooosh!! it just grabs the worm and chews happly and repeats process again until its full....

just a few days again i did the same thing at the same feeding time, but with no tank lights on.....only the room lights are on it comes around the hanging worm but stops for a bit...then swims on....as if unsure if it really is there or not....then comes around...stops for a bit then goes off....
..
this doesnt mean its not hungry, cuz when i drop the worm down on the water....it will eagerly rush to eat it....

to test this out, i turn back on the aquarium lights....and it will be so excited and jump up at the worm again....


so conclusion is that the aquarium lights does affect the aro's ability to see what's above the water (and that indirectly meaning room lights are not enough)


so now you might ask, what has this got to do with anything?!! so what, i'll just turn my lights on 24/7 etc...

well....this is a theory i have for red's having de issues...

basically aros in nature have a natural view of whats at the surface of the water, which keep them also looking upwards for thier source of food (ie. insects/birds) hence the alternative ridiculous name 'water monkey'.
Thats y the aros in nature dont develope de much ...quite rarely...

however, for those that are in aquariums, since without proper natural lighting, they cant really see whats above the water...so they dont use that "look above water surface ability (hence forth abrv to LAWSA)" much...

being that they dont use the lawsa much the eyes start to become "LaZy eyes"

I'm not implying that our aro's are in prison here but its just a scenario to explain it.....
the prisoners in their prison cells always look down....y?...cuz they got ntg to look up to!! LOL

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now currently the methods i'm using to assist with the de prevention are as follows:
1) hang the wormies/crickets above water in the see thru plastic container
2)always hold the mp, wormies, food above the water if possible.....with chopsticks!!
3) use fingers to imitate the effect of crickets skimming above water surface to make the aro zoom from one end of the tank to the other (whenever i feel free to do so) to give it some good exercise
4) include floating bio balls and floating smiley balls (positive balls) to make the aro play dodge ball all day long, hence requiring to focus at looking ahead to dodge the balls instead of down

method 2, 3, 4 are quite ok by itself...

but method 1 is not in effect if the aquarium lights are not turned on...cuz it cant see above the water well without the tank lights (usually my tank lights are only turned on when i'm at home ....auto set to turn on at 5.30pm-11.15pm)

but then again, having to turn on the aquarium lights all day long can increase the heat of the tank which nowadays its naturally at 32d.c if not accommodated by fan/aircond etc to cool it down...

and having the lights turned on 24/7 to me might be stressful for the aro eyes...imagine having a bright light at your forehead all day long...i'd probly get droppy eyes myself if i had that LOL

....now...i'm thinking of probly getting a secondary light...less power consumption, very light....just enuf to light up the container of worms to get the aro to notice it....probly might work...





Criticism and comments are welcomed
lets build our knowledge

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 5 2010, 09:26 PM

get a bigger aquarium loe, if budget is concern then fiber glass tank

Wah...tats a lot of fish oledy lol

what size tank you planning to get next?

wah, yeah!! hope to see that comming too
do remember to share some pix ^^


Hey i was just wondering huh, where to get live brine shrimp?
i've only seen those frozen ones...anyone feeding frozen/live brine shrimp to aros?

My aro too exited this morning when i open the cover to feed it the earthworms (which i leave in the soil container on the front panel at chest area when i stand up against the aq)....before i cud get the earthworm onto the chopstick it leaped at the smaller container and damaged itself on the top scale by hitting the glass panel on top...the scale is there but i think its the layer of skin thingy above the scale that is liek missing

geez i hope it grows back soon

any food to give it for better scale development?

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 6 2010, 05:06 PM

oh okies thx thats a relief haha

the lfs at o.u.g told me it shud be fine but just to be safe to use some kinda japanese yellow powder that comes in a packet. they said its like to assist with the slime coat and prevent infection etc....drawback is that it suposedly makes the water go very yellow o.o lol

anyone tried that before?


oh ya, anyone using ph meter? any recommendations?

i think ph pen is not cost efficient come to think of it....cuz today i went to look for the small A76 sized batteries (the single flat coin like shaped ones) and they were being sold...RM4...EACH!!

my ph pen needed 4 of em...so its like rm16 each time i wana change battery....not cost effective in the long run....damn i shud've looked into that before i tot of buying ph pen zzzz
i assumed that those small batteries wud be damn cheap zzzz

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 6 2010, 07:53 PM

wao, definitely 1st thing i see in difference is of course the sheer body size and the redness has darkened at the top part...looks very masculine
the cheeks also more coated
definitely a good one!!!


btw, any ideas on using the jap yellow powder thingy? :S

LoL wtf hahahaha
i was thinking mafia boss kinda masculine lol

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 7 2010, 08:53 AM

sigh i feel so stupid...y oh y did i listen to that moron at oug lfs zzz
now i used the yellow powder oledy and after asking some other forums they said it will likely kill the filter bacteria also sigh


by the way, is that really you in the pic Moe?

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 7 2010, 11:20 AM

wao, u hit the gym really often eh

yeah, i wish i cud turn back time and farking bat that moron .... i will never take advise from him again...stupid guy at oug lfs zzzz

all i said to him was " my aro jumped and injured itself on the scale, i'm looking for a slime coat protection thing"....and he tells me about infections from water etc and that the yellow powder will provide antibiotics as well as provide slime coat protection blah blah....and i saw the friggin thing is in jap totally....so like i felt like wadaheck just trust him for once....

i did ask him if it will affect the bb filter and he said no no no it wont....

i go back..put 1/2 the powder into the aq, water stained yellow as was advised...then i went online and fuggin found out its actually antibacterial stuff argh!!!

my weeks and weeks of dedicated bb growing zzzz!! argh!!!!

This post has been edited by leong2084: Apr 7 2010, 03:16 PM