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 -= Naza-Kia Forte =- <Club>, Leaves You Speechless

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deeplyheartbroken
post Nov 29 2009, 12:03 AM

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SA said any salesman give personal commission discount for this model will result in dismissal. Dunno how true it is.
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Nov 29 2009, 12:03 AM)
SA said any salesman give personal commission discount for this model will result in dismissal. Dunno how true it is.
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No wonder that SA insisted that NO DISCOUNT WILL BE GIVEN ON THIS CAR. . lolz.
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Nov 29 2009, 12:01 AM)
As I said before, my booking fee's official receipt from NAZA clearly stated my vehicle description as NAZA FORTE (CBU) 2.0 SX. I dont think NAZA has a guts to lie to their customers by delivering a CKD unit since that their own official receipt clearly mentioning that it is indeed a CBU unit.

For those who already paid the booking fee, kindly give us some feedback here whether your official receipt from NAZA clearly stated the vehicle description as a CBU unit or not?
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i don't hv any official receipt...just some plain a4 paper that said i hv paid booking fee..but SA said have to wait about one month...one month or two month for me not problem...the problem here want to clear the garage...so many cark park there...my wira93 also there..want to sell only can make 4k-5k only...huhu
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(ryan man @ Nov 29 2009, 12:01 AM)
Hey guys. . I tested this car today. The engine was smooth . Decided to booking next week coz the SA couldn't confirmed the trade-in price for my current spectra today. Btw, did you guys having some discount or free gifts from ur SA???  hmm.gif
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no free gift but SA say will definitely give some freebies but dunno. maybe cheapo stuff or maybe cool stuff.


QUOTE(izputra @ Nov 29 2009, 12:01 AM)
As I said before, my booking fee's official receipt from NAZA clearly stated my vehicle description as NAZA FORTE (CBU) 2.0 SX. I dont think NAZA has a guts to lie to their customers by delivering a CKD unit since that their own official receipt clearly mentioning that it is indeed a CBU unit.

For those who already paid the booking fee, kindly give us some feedback here whether your official receipt from NAZA clearly stated the vehicle description as a CBU unit or not?
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some of us did pre-booking before launch. no forte in the system yet. our receipt show spectra.
but dunno if SA key in into the system and we should claim for actual receipt now


Added on November 29, 2009, 12:16 am
QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Nov 29 2009, 12:13 AM)
i don't hv any official receipt...just some plain a4 paper that said i hv paid booking fee..but SA said have to wait about one month...one month or two month for me not problem...the problem here want to clear the garage...so many cark park there...my wira93 also there..want to sell only can make 4k-5k only...huhu
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you better be careful. please insist on original receipt. or at least temporary receipt that has their company letter head/chops
usually they can fax the receipt to you if you don't want hassle to go to their office.

This post has been edited by iluvena: Nov 29 2009, 12:16 AM
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(iluvena @ Nov 29 2009, 12:14 AM)
no free gift but SA say will definitely give some freebies but dunno. maybe cheapo stuff or maybe cool stuff.
some of us did pre-booking before launch. no forte in the system yet. our receipt show spectra.
but dunno if SA key in into the system and we should claim for actual receipt now


Added on November 29, 2009, 12:16 am
you better be careful. please insist on original receipt. or at least temporary receipt that has their company letter head/chops
usually they can fax the receipt to you if you don't want hassle to go to their office.
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maybe when i go there, the naza centre about to close.so can't get official receipt..will visit later this monday to settle about the loan...thank 4 advise bro...btw, i have their receipt but not stated the car there...

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post Nov 29 2009, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(kop1813 @ Nov 28 2009, 08:19 PM)
brake pedal must be press with the shift lever in 'Park' for the engine to start / stop.
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no... even at N also can start the engine.... i tried it .....


Added on November 29, 2009, 12:30 am
QUOTE(phelix @ Nov 28 2009, 09:24 PM)
no it won't... i tested it today...
car started and the key with me.. i walked away and after few minutes...
the SA drove the car away and turn back... still starting...  blink.gif
so conclusion is... make sure your engine stop before u leave ur car.. and lock it properly...
yes.. for engine start.. u need to bring the key inside... if u r out side..
u can only open the door but the engine won't be able to start.
after i inspect on the key.. yes we can slot in the key.. but i've check there's no connector at all to "recharge" the remote..
so there's no way to recharge the key but have to change batt.

erm.. bluetooth.. i don't think so la.. even SG doesn't have it.
ship back 2.0 and bring in CKD?
hmm.. doubt that..
no need to re-apply le.. the loan can be hold for 1 month according to SA..
if ur can not here yet.. tell the banker to extend it.
after test drove today... the car NVH is acceptable (for me very good already.. my stupid gen2 super loud) and the pick up is acceptable for 1.6 for daily use (2.0 will be perfect.. haha)
i managed to hit 120km/h coz kinda close with the SA now.. he don't give a damn how i test drove and where i go... wahaha.. but i didn't check the RPM.. not so loud even cursing on 120km/h
but according to singapore user.. more than that u will notice the loud. and also the audio system.. is perfect!!
i tested with my pendrive loaded with english songs and chinese songs...
the best part is.. the audio system can read Chinese MP3 tag!! WOW!! that's really amazing.. i tested in my friends latest accord 2.0.. show funny word only...
i'm more in love with the forte.. now i don't care how long it wait.. i will want the 2.0!! biggrin.gif
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welcome back to join the force of 2.0.....
yes... i don't think that Naza will ship back all the CBU to Korea and bring in as CKD.... as after calculate the Freight Charges + other subcharges... it is more than the duty/payment that Naza need to Top up if Gov really said the 93 K is cheap....

I'm in Logistics Field... so noone will do such 'idiot' way by returning the car to Korea.... doesn't make sense at all..... jsut my 2cent... no hurt feeling....

This post has been edited by bomberman: Nov 29 2009, 12:30 AM
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:31 AM

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Just hope our 2.0 will come ASAP lor.
First time buying thing like so uncertain: wait, wait n wait, without concrete info
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(wsd3m0n @ Nov 28 2009, 11:03 PM)
I saw in previous post about the car pick up is slower than vios, It might be true if you using auto shift. Try to use manual shift, you will have big surprised!!!

I tested with 2nd gear hits 120km/h, 5k+rpm (if remember correctly), acceptable engine sound, the car just steady.
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haha.... i did it.... still... the car pickup really slower than the Vios... is true... the power only kicks in after the RPM reach around 3k+ for the 1.6SX.... no offence.... notworthy.gif


Added on November 29, 2009, 12:36 am
QUOTE(izputra @ Nov 29 2009, 12:01 AM)
As I said before, my booking fee's official receipt from NAZA clearly stated my vehicle description as NAZA FORTE (CBU) 2.0 SX. I dont think NAZA has a guts to lie to their customers by delivering a CKD unit since that their own official receipt clearly mentioning that it is indeed a CBU unit.

For those who already paid the booking fee, kindly give us some feedback here whether your official receipt from NAZA clearly stated the vehicle description as a CBU unit or not?
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yes... my receipt of booking and Downpayment both showing Naza Forte (CBU) 2.0 SX

This post has been edited by bomberman: Nov 29 2009, 12:36 AM
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(bomberman @ Nov 29 2009, 12:25 AM)
no... even at N also can start the engine.... i tried it .....
I doubt about this statement....
Even a Kenari Auto also can't start the car if gear is engage at N or D....
Means this car dun have any safety purpose on the keyless option? Just for cosmetic Engine Start Button?
If this true... The Start Button is a crap....




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post Nov 29 2009, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:37 AM)
I doubt about this statement....
Even a Kenari Auto also can't start the car if gear is engage at N or D....
Means this car dun have any safety purpose on the keyless option? Just for cosmetic Engine Start Button?
If this true... The Start Button is a crap....
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my gen2 N can start engine wo...
D canot la.. i think most of the car is same...
only P and D can start the car engine...
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:37 AM)
I doubt about this statement....
Even a Kenari Auto also can't start the car if gear is engage at N or D....
Means this car dun have any safety purpose on the keyless option? Just for cosmetic Engine Start Button?
If this true... The Start Button is a crap....
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yes... even at N u will be able to start it... when i press twice of the start button during driving... it immediately cut off the engine and i switch the gear to N position and press the Brake Pedal + push button...and it Did start the Engine..... but if engage at D will not start....


Added on November 29, 2009, 12:45 am
QUOTE(bomberman @ Nov 29 2009, 12:40 AM)
yes... even at N u will be able to start it... when i press twice of the start button during driving... it immediately cut off the engine and i switch the gear to N position and press the Brake Pedal + push button...and it Did start the Engine..... but if engage at D will not start....
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gear engage at N can start the engine....vios also can start at N.... jsut that the Key cannot pull out if the gear not engage at P...

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post Nov 29 2009, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(phelix @ Nov 29 2009, 12:40 AM)
my gen2 N can start engine wo...
D canot la.. i think most of the car is same...
only P and D can start the car engine...
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QUOTE(bomberman @ Nov 29 2009, 12:40 AM)
yes... even at N u will be able to start it... when i press twice of the start button during driving... it immediately cut off the engine and i switch the gear to N position and press the Brake Pedal + push button...and it Did start the Engine..... but if engage at D will not start....
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Maybe I'm wrong....D only can't start the engine....
Someone did posted said if the car engine is started and key not in car still can drive without any cut off.... Is it true?
Means the key is without immobilizer function?

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post Nov 29 2009, 12:49 AM

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Sorry to all if i am really kepo to help answer all...

[quote=iluvena,Nov 28 2009, 07:57 AM]
maybe in future they will bring the 5 speed auto. you know la. must test first.
if they can get huge car market share, maybe they will bring it in. KIA and NAZA have bad reputation before.
they must sell their BRAND name first.

by having 4 speed auto, the price is competitive enough to gain market share.
if 5 speed and quite pricey, how to compete with Japanese car with KIA/NAZA own bad old reputation?


Added on November 28, 2009, 8:35 amcool info about cerato/forte

http://www.kia-cerato.com/main.html
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For the moments, KIA has only LHD 5 speed, and is working on RHD model.. which all hope to come soon... by then.. maybe its time for me to change to forte v2???Heee...

[quote=Fortelover,Nov 28 2009, 10:45 AM]
Kennyphan, me too changing from 2.0 to 1.6.
Next year's 2.0 (earliest Jan) would be ckd already, no cbu.... And like u said, the current limited 2.0 is for Naza, not for sales...so burgerlim, dun put too high hope on getting any 2.0 in dec.. If can get before cny is already a bonus.. Sg waiting list is 5mths...
My SA said my Clear White is allocated, so, next week if not week after next got car...
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sorry bro.. me could afford only 1.6.. : 2.0 no $$$... haiz..

[quote=titarium,Nov 28 2009, 11:58 AM]
I will be at Singapore for the whole next week .... gonna poison myself with forte around the road

After I am back hope to get some updates on the car from SA.
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oh ya... now starts to flood sg roads... can see everywhere.. but those extra poisoned units is easier to find on forum...haaa...

[quote=kennyphan,Nov 28 2009, 12:44 PM]
I confident with 1.6SX performance after tested 2 times Forte (1.6SX) and 1 time P2 - Alza (1.5). It is big different of engire performance ~
1.5 (104PS) (1168kg)
1.6 (124PS) (1326kg)

Save the 12K to upgrade OEM leather seat cover, GPS with reverse camera (Ref: http://www.gophers.com.my/product/product...._category_id=4)

Actually, no confirm news about 2.0SX deliver on Jan 2010, Call centre and Branch SA only can estimate Feb/Mar sure after CNY sessions.
Clear White is limited stock and I forced my SA to allocate it for me coz he keep ask me to take Titanium Silver (sure got stock sweat.gif )
Anyhow, I had requested him to arrange it (1.6SX Clear White) deliver on 2nd of January 2010
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bro.. 1.6 weight is 1265kg.. not 1.3t.. specs includes a driver of 75kg...

[quote=bomberman,Nov 28 2009, 12:54 PM]
no offence.... generally the 1.6 will suffer a bit of low pick up as it actually not as fast as Vios pickup (as been told in earlier post) ... but after the VVT kicks in then the 1.6 will be perform greater than Vios /City.... i think this is a 'grey' area where some user can accept the slower pickup and some cannot (just like me).... as i said before, my gf owned the Vios and i drove it many times.... the pickup actually is not sufficient for a auto car.... just imagine that if Forte pickup is slower than Vios which i think (personally) is worst.

but if you downgrade the size of the rims as suggested, this issue will be resolve and by that time the 1.6 Forte can consider 'all perfect' (atleast for me).

I don't need GPS because i already have one... but in future (after my warranty expire lah) i will upgrade the ICE.... but not now as touching the ICE will only void our warranty....
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Vios has more ps/tonne.. due to light kerb weight.. of just slightly over 1ton.. IIRC its 100ps/ton while forte is only ~98ps/ton but due to different torque curve.. forte speed and handling should come better after picking up momentum and CVVT kicks in...


[quote=iluvena,Nov 28 2009, 12:59 PM]
hey guys, for usb, can it read normal thumbdrive to play mp3?
or it just support iphone/ipod/smart phone only?
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Yes... it plays mp3 and wma... too bad no FLAC..
Also for the chinese character display ours only for traditional font character..

[quote=saimatkong,Nov 28 2009, 04:07 PM]
my question is, if the remote is with you, and the car jacker drove the car away, will the car stop? haha, just thinking only la.
coz tested the remote put in the boot and close the boot it will not be able to close one, it will reopen by itself.
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yup.. as stated in manual..that is a safety feature (if equipped.. looks like its has)


[quote=iluvena,Nov 28 2009, 04:12 PM]
no lar.. you and time machine really works.. just slowpoku.. kekeke..
coz we know sx got start stop button..
the engine will off in 30 secs.. that what has been told by SA. dunno never try.

according to SG forum, the boot won't re-open. got few case they need to get spare key to open the boot back.
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Sorry, sg version (up to now) does not comes with that feature due to not push button version!!!

[quote=bomberman,Nov 28 2009, 06:28 PM]
i already pm my banker details to whoever ask from me.... if really he cannot give u guys 3.1%, i also cannot do anything.....
just pm me if any of u need the contact....


Added on November 28, 2009, 6:35 pmmy latest found out for our beloved Forte, this must be read by those have kids /baby

- while we driving, accidentally by pressing once on the Start Button = will not off our engine, nothing happen.

- if you accidentally press twice continusoly, it will cut off our engine immediately... this will be very danger for us... as when engine off, our steering turning off, brake off...everything off which will lead to accident.... Please be more cautious when u bring along kids / baby...make sure they won't go and press the button twice, if not we will be in big trouble....

= purposely go to test drive the FOrte just now after i think off about this problem - will the engine off while i'm driving and accidentally press the Start Button? My SA even never thought about this....
Just to share this with everyone as our cool Start button just located at our lefthand side which passenger at front can easily reach the button...
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not too sure... of the engine cutoff with the 2nd press... will help check abit on the manual.. but even when its off... brake should still be workable..(need real hard press), steering too but not too sure will it engage lock?

[quote=iluvena,Nov 28 2009, 06:47 PM]
brake will off also?? thats really a problemm


Added on November 28, 2009, 6:50 pmlol. poor our government.
next poll we show our true power

kinda sick with their shit already
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+1, but looking at current, BN just has their way...

[quote=kennyphan,Nov 28 2009, 07:08 PM]


Really appreciate for this info bcoz my 1 year old son always press all the button during his seat in front with mom. I need to plan for other method to cover the start button during he around
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then tie him up..haaa... Joking..

[quote=phelix,Nov 28 2009, 09:24 PM]
no it won't... i tested it today...
car started and the key with me.. i walked away and after few minutes...
the SA drove the car away and turn back... still starting...

so conclusion is... make sure your engine stop before u leave ur car.. and lock it properly...
yes.. for engine start.. u need to bring the key inside... if u r out side..
u can only open the door but the engine won't be able to start.
after i inspect on the key.. yes we can slot in the key.. but i've check there's no connector at all to "recharge" the remote..
so there's no way to recharge the key but have to change batt.

erm.. bluetooth.. i don't think so la.. even SG doesn't have it.
ship back 2.0 and bring in CKD?
hmm.. doubt that..
no need to re-apply le.. the loan can be hold for 1 month according to SA..
if ur can not here yet.. tell the banker to extend it.
after test drove today... the car NVH is acceptable (for me very good already.. my stupid gen2 super loud) and the pick up is acceptable for 1.6 for daily use (2.0 will be perfect.. haha)
i managed to hit 120km/h coz kinda close with the SA now.. he don't give a damn how i test drove and where i go... wahaha.. but i didn't check the RPM.. not so loud even cursing on 120km/h
but according to singapore user.. more than that u will notice the loud. and also the audio system.. is perfect!!
i tested with my pendrive loaded with english songs and chinese songs...
the best part is.. the audio system can read Chinese MP3 tag!! WOW!! that's really amazing.. i tested in my friends latest accord 2.0.. show funny word only...
i'm more in love with the forte.. now i don't care how long it wait.. i will want the 2.0!!
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Bro, Sg ver..comes with after market bluttooth.. haa..
but bro, ours shows only traditional character..leh.. my version latest? simplify characters???

[quote=ylchew77,Nov 28 2009, 09:35 PM]
[quote=phelix,Nov 28 2009, 09:24 PM]
no it won't... i tested it today...
car started and the key with me.. i walked away and after few minutes...
the SA drove the car away and turn back... still starting...
so conclusion is... make sure your engine stop before u leave ur car.. and lock it properly...
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yes.. for engine start.. u need to bring the key inside... if u r out side..
u can only open the door but the engine won't be able to start.
after i inspect on the key.. yes we can slot in the key.. but i've check there's no connector at all to "recharge" the remote..
so there's no way to recharge the key but have to change batt.

Really? That's very dangerous if the car engine won't stop even the key is not in the car!

Can brother burgerlim to confirm this?
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Sorry bro.. no push button as pointed out!!! haa.. but generally after the verification, ECU will clear the lock and not too sure under what condition it will recheck... haaa...

[quote=phelix,Nov 28 2009, 10:45 PM]
haha.. is not so dangerous... is the same thing like u have the key..
just make sure that when u leave ur car.. stop the engine..
even if u use key to start engine.. u leave ur car with key insert.. is still dangerous what..
and best part is.. do not ask burger bro.. coz he so keen on the smart entry... SG old batch doesn't have it..
new batch need to top up money to add on this feature..
is time to stop whether is CBU or CKD.. even u know what is gonna be...
maybe is because of Naza or G monitoring the market.. and get the source over internet...
Naza is hard to bring more cars to sell..
that's the best.. and better than nay proton sales man... wahaha!
thanks to those sales man make all of us suffering from getting the car.
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[quote=wsd3m0n,Nov 28 2009, 11:03 PM]
I saw in previous post about the car pick up is slower than vios, It might be true if you using auto shift. Try to use manual shift, you will have big surprised!!!

I tested with 2nd gear hits 120km/h, 5k+rpm (if remember correctly), acceptable engine sound, the car just steady.
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+1, forte 2nd gear is really hard working! kind of super long... so you should gain alot comparing to other car since no gear change..haa...


Phew!!...
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post Nov 29 2009, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:37 AM)
I doubt about this statement....
Even a Kenari Auto also can't start the car if gear is engage at N or D....
Means this car dun have any safety purpose on the keyless option? Just for cosmetic Engine Start Button?
If this true... The Start Button is a crap....
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no offence bro, but sumthing wrong with the kenari... all cars that i driven including bmw, harrier and etc can start in N...
it has nth to do wif safety purpos or a crappy start button sweat.gif
onli gear R and D, u cant start.. if u can.. go bac to SC.. sumthing wrong wif it

today saw 1 kia forte sg plate at mlk raya.. it reali attracts me.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:48 AM)
Maybe I'm wrong....D only can't start the engine....
Someone did posted said if the car engine is started and key not in car still can drive without any cut off.... Is it true?
Means the key is without immobilizer function?
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i posted it la..
i tested and yes.. you can say the smart key is without immobilizer like BMW... (bmw need u to insert to key only can push start the engine)
so the forte smart entry is just like mazda 6 2.5... u can check out the mazda 6 2.5 smart entry + push start.
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thanks bro burger for the time in clearing out some doubts here biggrin.gif

but seriously, the 2.0 saga is not doing any good to Naza's reputation...
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Never know got so many Forte members still hanging at forum in this hour...
Is it all of us can't sleep well without the babe Forte parking at home??? kekeke~~~
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post Nov 29 2009, 01:04 AM

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Nah.... if babe park outside..sure even more cant sleep..haaa...
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Nov 29 2009, 01:04 AM)
Nah.... if babe park outside..sure even more cant sleep..haaa...
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This is true...
A case happened to my colleague, He got his 308 1 month ago...
1st day getting the car and busy studying the user manual in the car till mid nite.
End result late for Meeting at next day morning... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Nov 29 2009, 01:02 AM)
Never know got so many Forte members still hanging at forum in this hour...
Is it all of us can't sleep well without the babe Forte parking at home??? kekeke~~~
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it's EPL night... hehehhe tongue.gif

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