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post Nov 24 2009, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 24 2009, 02:26 PM)
Seng_Kiat: The Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 is pretty fast on the A700 onwards. There is one at Leos Trading, Ampang Park.

Personally I say it is pretty darn sharp. It has excellent longitudinal chromatic aberration correction.

http://www.glaringnotebook.com/zimages/bsst3big.jpg
Left to right: 70mm, 135mm, 200mm. Top: Tamron 70-200mm F2.8; bottom: Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM II.

http://www.glaringnotebook.com/zimages/bsst4big.jpg
Same thing; top is Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM; bottom is Minolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO.

More details here:
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243
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Hi albnok, I noticed that the photos taken with Zeiss are so much cleaner and better contrast than other lenses, is it because of the zeiss lens or the setting of the camera?
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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Nov 24 2009, 06:21 PM)
let me guess.. that Christmas tree at the left is the same like the Christmas tree bokeh at ur GF photo?
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Nov 24 2009, 06:28 PM)
Hi albnok, I noticed that the photos taken with Zeiss are so much cleaner and better contrast than other lenses, is it because of the zeiss lens or the setting of the camera?
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i believe when comparing lenses...people would usually use exactly same setting on the camera/s tongue.gif and carl zeiss lenses r usually more contrasty than others..

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Uzumaki NaruTo
post Nov 24 2009, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Nov 24 2009, 05:37 PM)
phew..just came back from Singapore this morning. Went to the AFA and all. there's a loads of pictures but haven't transfer them all yet. here's 1 for start:
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post Nov 24 2009, 06:47 PM

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5564321 : Carl Ziess FTW.

achew : i think u can go back there and shoot while modifying the bokeh, maybe make it star star, or ring bokeh... (i think u know what i mean)

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post Nov 24 2009, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 24 2009, 06:47 PM)
5564321 : Carl Ziess FTW.

achew : i think u can go back there and shoot while modifying the bokeh, maybe make it star star, or ring bokeh... (i think u know what i mean)

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haha..if i have new idea..i'd definitely go back there n shoot..it just 15min away from my place by taxi...
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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 24 2009, 06:47 PM)
5564321 : Carl Ziess FTW.

achew : i think u can go back there and shoot while modifying the bokeh, maybe make it star star, or ring bokeh... (i think u know what i mean)

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Or buy the festive lamps and have more controlled shoots. Ah, Thanks for reminding me about that.
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Nov 24 2009, 06:37 PM)
phew..just came back from Singapore this morning. Went to the AFA and all. there's a loads of pictures but haven't transfer them all yet. here's 1 for start:

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while UWA ..... very nice ;D
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post Nov 24 2009, 10:49 PM

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5564321: Settings are the same, though the Zeiss was at F1.8 while the others were at F2.8. The Zeiss is indeed very contrasty.

Things I spotted at Sony Style KLCC today!

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Banzai_san, this is for you! It looks every bit as good in real life, as it looks in the picture. Which is really, really good.

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And then, there is the first ever Sony lens with a 67mm filter thread... (say what?)

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The much awaited Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM! Note that there is a Lock switch to hold it at 28mm, and the focus ring is reverse from most Sony lenses. It is noticeably smaller than the Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8.

Minimum focus distances:
Sony Vario-Sonnar T* Carl Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = 34cm
Tamron/Minolta 28-75mm F2.8 = 33cm
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = 38cm

We all know that the Sony is a rebadged Tamron - it's obvious from the reverse focus ring and filter size. However, why is the MFD changed from 33cm to 38cm?

The Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 in Canon EF mount comes with a micro-motor since all Canon EOS cameras do not have in-body motors. The Nikon F mount version also has that micro-motor. Both Tamrons can still do 33cm with a micro-motor! So why can't Sony?

Obviously, because a Sony 28-75mm F2.8 that does 33cm MFD compared to a Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 that does 34cm MFD looks better on paper!

I have to say this, I absolutely hate SAM for lenses that are meant to be matched on higher-end bodies (A850/A900) which have the AF/MF toggle and DMF functionality, because SAM makes any on-body MF control impossible. It's not so bad to have SAM on a kit lens but not on a lens that is targeted to full-frame users.

And yet, it is hard to write off this lens - optically, it is superb, even wide open! I didn't bring my A900 + Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D) to compare, but what I shot looks very impressive, with good corners at F2.8. Focusing isn't very fast though, and it feels a bit slow to draw at macro distances sometimes. I guess it's best to have a Zeiss 24-70mm owner to compare as the Zeiss 24-70mm has faster SSM (compared to other lenses in its 24-70mm range.)

Its weight is superb - it's light enough and yet it balances very well on the A850! If the 24-70mm ever felt too heavy, this will feel miraculously matched.

Pixel peeping will come another day!

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Pros:
- good balance on the A850/A900
- good optical quality wide open even on the corners
- cameras with a F2.8 sensor (A700/A850/A900) will gain more accuracy
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Cons:
- SAM motor implementation makes the very useful AF/MF and DMF functions on the A700/A850/A900 useless
- focus ring turns in the reverse direction of all Sony lenses (like the Sony 18-200mm and 18-250mm)
- 38cm MFD is a downgrade from the Konica Minolta/Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 which focused to 33cm close

Personally, if I could find a good copy of the Konica Minolta/Tamron 28-75mm F2.8, I would pick that over this Sony, only for the AF/MF and DMF functionality.

And finally, some leftover lens pr0n:
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post Nov 24 2009, 10:54 PM

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Albert,nice review!
how much is the Sony 28-75?
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i nvr expected the lens also will be in bronze colour..superb...
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post Nov 24 2009, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Nov 24 2009, 05:37 PM)
phew..just came back from Singapore this morning. Went to the AFA and all. there's a loads of pictures but haven't transfer them all yet. here's 1 for start:

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nice shooting....!!
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tanjq87: No price has been announced yet. Hmmm, you have no standard zoom for your A850?
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QUOTE(achew @ Nov 24 2009, 02:32 PM)
its gonna rain...

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achew. is tat taken on actual shot or photoshopped?



QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Nov 24 2009, 05:37 PM)
phew..just came back from Singapore this morning. Went to the AFA and all. there's a loads of pictures but haven't transfer them all yet. here's 1 for start:

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Very nice..!! Christmas is here!!! everyone getting smthing for urself as christmas present? hehehe brows.gif
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achew: haha. now i know where u got them. but inside the tree is pretty awesome too. luckily, i managed to shot the interior.

ieR, Uzumaki NaruTo, wingster, dreamingguy2: Thx guys!

clivengu: thx bro. well, the only christmas gift i bought is a hard rock cafe t-shirt which i will buy from every country i go.. smile.gif


more picture will be upload soon. currently trying to design my new personal blog.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 24 2009, 11:08 PM)
tanjq87: No price has been announced yet. Hmmm, you have no standard zoom for your A850?
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got, i am using the sigma 2470 Macro
just asking for the price, no intention on changing also biggrin.gif
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post Nov 24 2009, 11:50 PM

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@clivengu
the shot was real one..but edited quite a fair bit coz the orig water was not as clear/sharp...accidentally poke too many holes on my mineral water bottle..so there were leaks from multiple sources..had a small flood in my room =.=
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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 24 2009, 10:49 PM)
5564321: Settings are the same, though the Zeiss was at F1.8 while the others were at F2.8. The Zeiss is indeed very contrasty.

Things I spotted at Sony Style KLCC today!

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Banzai_san, this is for you! It looks every bit as good in real life, as it looks in the picture. Which is really, really good.
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waaahhhh... the alpha brownie drool.gif
even have the lens color matching the body... cantiiik woooo... drool.gif

Thanks albnok... that made my day notworthy.gif biggrin.gif
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boring shot while waiting for soccer match... =p
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hahahah nice one achew.. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 05:47 AM

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lol..looked like im not the only one staying up to watch soccer.. =p

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