Hahaha...wtf is wrong with TS? Maybe some people never heard a quote "Its better you keep your mouth shut and let people thinks that you are stupid rather than you speak and remove all doubts"...what a moron..

She or he (or whatever) obviously have no clue about football in Europe.

nope. i think he was wearing Man Utd jersey walking around in the blue part of Manchester.

when i was growing up , i supported KL which had players like Fandi Ahmad, Malek Awab and Shebby Singh. However, in the early 90-s the nationwide crackdown on match fixing actually killed the game in Malaysia and also Singapore pulling out of Malaysia Cup. And from there , everything went downhill.

This was also the time where Premier League began its existence and over the years, with the marketing effort and tv money, the EPL just got bigger and bigger and you see EPL teams coming to this part of the world. So, it is just a matter of how EPL reach out to the audience in this part of the world. I dont think the people in England would hate us for supporting their team. There may be a minority group there who take offense but to the majority of them, they would be proud to know that a Malaysian supports their team.

Believe me, its much worst in Singapore.
At least in Malaysia, the malaysia cup sees full house and guranteed wild atmosphere.
At least here you could see yellow scarfs with red jerseys.
Kallang Roar, Kallang Wave. Its all in distant memories now in Singapore. For eg: Liverpool vs Singapore. That was really terrible morale for Singapore to feel like an away side.

that is why there were talks of getting Singapore back to Malaysia Cup.

anyway, this is out of topic in this thread.

The thing is we can support any team in the world we want. It is not only in football, but in basketball, american football, rugby etc ... i watch NBA and is a Celtics supporter. If i wear a Celtics tops in Boston, i am sure there wouldn't be anyone asking why i m wearing the team's shirt. Sports is really a global business nowadays. Open up any form of news media be it online or paper, there will surely be news of sports. It has actually reached out to the world wide audience.

I still remembered that Matlan Majan(playing for Sabah) was 'paid' for the Msia Cup Final(Sabah v Selangor) and Sabah still won by 3-0? Before the crackdown, almost all the stadiums are fullhouse most of the time and we got live matches on TV3, not on the lame rtm..
Even the local papers were dominated by local football news then. Now, maybe max 3/4 of a page...lol..
I bet da TS still sucking milk during that time..

watching football at the Merdeka Stadium grandstand which will shake if everyone jumps in unison .. those were the days of local football ..

despite the general 'unpleasantness' directed at the TS, he/she has some valid points.

football nowadays is a brand, and the EPL does market itself very well. There are definitely hardcore supporters (like Duke and JonC for Liverpool, and jersey Schmeichel for ManUtd) but sadly these people are in the minority.
there's a lot of 'glory hunters' out there, eager and willing to spend on the next 'in' thing.

now, back to Malaysian football. Being local (and yes, I am looking at you proton) does not mean that you have the god given right to be popular and well loved locally. You have to earn that right, and i do not think the local football scene has done quite that. yet.

i miss the good old semi pro days...

p.s. btw, there's much much more to being a 'supporter' than buying an original jersey.

This post has been edited by madmoz: Nov 25 2009, 06:25 PM

Instead of being mad of local wearing foreigner club's jersey, let me ask this question.

Is Malaysia's football industry as strong and solid as the Brits? No offense but I think they're pile of dump where people just try to corrupt money as many as they can get.

What TS said, I could understand from where it coming from. Probably experienced it first hand eh. Unless people actually live over there and experienced or truly understand English football culture, it's could be hard to understand. While we do have some fanatics of our own in local football scene, over there lots of them take it religiously. It's more about tradition. Some of the root fans just don't want their club to be associated with fans (from Asia especially, Caucasian is more or less can be forgiven) whom they they are not familiar with and don't really know their background (unless you're a guy who pour millions for the clubs) and would make the club looks like losing it's own identity. But most likely they are on the minority side.

I bet if TS actually phrased her words differently while talking about the same thing the thread probably get a better response.

This post has been edited by redart: Nov 25 2009, 09:43 PM

all this barking about local football not good is somewhat not fair to the league.

have you guys ever go watching it live at stadium? if you said yes, how many times you actually go? at least try watching a few times before making a judgment. most of us have been pampered with the quality of BPL and conclude Liga Super is bad because it is not the same standard as them. please lower down your standard a bit and be neutral.. i bet you'll think differently.

ei?? wat's this? an 'essay-writing' before SPM?? herein LYN?? wow...

if this was presented as an essay of a SPM student, the standard of english of a SPM candidate must be terrible

I do watch local football. i even have touched the cup, take photograph, even handshake with terengganu player when they won piala malaysia few years back. now i live in kelantan, and i support the kelantan team although i didn't condone the violence by kelantanese supporter. i have kelantan shirt too, with a writing "FA campaign" at the back of the shirt.

BUT,

I also have been to BPL games, when i was in UK last year for studying. I've been to Stadium of Lights, the home ground of Sunderland FC, the main rival for Newcastle United last year. and guess what TS? they do welcome us to support their team, even the hooligans there said they were proud to have an asian supporter. i even met a guy, with a tattoo that says "ha'way lads!" with sunderland fc crest on his hand, and he gave me a seat so i can watch sunderland games in a local pub. so what's your point TS? i think people don't like you because of faceproblem.

I admit not going to the stadium since the days Selangor were a powerhouse when we had the likes of Zsolt Bucs, Karel Stromsik, P. Maniam, A. Jayakanthan, Pavel Korejcik, Karel Stromsik, Ismail Ibrahim, K.Gunalan etc in the team but the difference between then and now is stark! I tell you what, the decision to remove foreigners from the league and more importantly turn it into a pro league has contributed to our crappiness.

One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to see there is a problem. Our teams suck in the Asian Champions League and our national team sucks big time.

phrasing it better or not from the original thread starter means very little if they are saying one is foolishly supporting a foreign club as oppose to supporting your local boys.

its everything to do with today's media coverage and other forms of communication given to the foreign leagues. like it or not, whilst this may sound unpatriotic in many ways, we have more or less ourselves to blame for portraying a small minded mentality when it comes to our local leagues. lets not talk about competitiveness, its not even there. the old days are gone.

have they done all they can to improve it? honestly we all know the answer to that.

are we ashame to support our local team? definitely not. but would you pay money to watch pros or schoolboys play?

there is nothing foolish about supporting something you believe in or something that you like. but by saying its fooly proud of nothing, that is disrespectful.

anyway whatever reason she (or he) is trying to point out, its already pretty insolence the way it was put. immature maybe.. the nic name used already partly shows it. maybe should just stick to studying for the betterment of themselves rather than to harp on other peoples interest aye?

Thats because most of us at the stadium that evening were Malaysians/Indons etc. Why would we non-Singers want to support your permanent resident footballers?

Its ok for you if you support the big teams like Kelantan, Perak & Selangor. At least there's something worth watching.
Try going to games of of the Premier League, & then tell us to go watch games I've been to watch KL play at Cheras stadium in the Premier League several times. The quality of the product on the pitch was uniformly dire. Each time there were at most 200 supporters, of which about 30 were in the KLFA official supporters club kompang group. Who are you to tell us supporters of KL, Melaka or Sarawak that we should abandon Chelsea or Arsenal just to support the dire football being played in the lower reached of the premier league or the FAM league?

I want to ask the thread starter if he/she knows where to buy the jersey for Melaka.

What happened to the TS?

i think the TS got a bad experience went to UK wearing his favorite EPL team jersey, probably got beaten up by a group of hooligans, that's why he express his feeling here, hoping to get some attention and sympathy

jerseyman, TS probably went to his mom and cry

ok2, i was just joking, hehe

i also saw a few tourist wearing malaysian nike home jersey, at some point i feel proud about it but for me, a jersey is just a jersey la, u can wear it if u want. its like a computer geek wearing vans skate shoes

and there's nothing wrong with supporting any football team, it is that simple. its not like its religiously forbidden

This post has been edited by ghoster: Nov 26 2009, 04:31 PM

You forgot to list down the "RM3" striker from England...