Weird how Voronin not included in squad..

go and get david luiz

WORD.

question,champions match is it this morning 3:45 or tomorrow morning 3:45?

woot its blaming season here now, can i join..

i blame Lucas on Liverpool bad season..one man can kill em all..the defense, the offense, the flow, the giants

balls flowing past our defenders, next through reina, into the net..more than we should, be it from open play, mistakes, set pieces/corners..cant blame record breakers defenders and keeper when things turn ugly overnight..

i remember saying this during the pre-season after watching a few match without a world class player in the midfield - im very afraid that we gonna have another season where we failed to fight for the top spot, because of bad starts..but never in my imagination it could be this ugly

the midfield just dont cut it, with or without injuries, with or without forms, with or without luck, i blame the legendary "untouchable" Lucas..

</blame>

I did mention Vidic-type of player, also you don't judge a player on a single match . Torres is one of the few strikers who could embarrass any CBs in the world. Sure, his confidence against us was shot to hell but for most of these 2 seasons he has been solid.

To be fair, Skrtel does fairly ok against pace but he tends to make rash decisions. I just wish he has more aerial presence, which would be assuring if he and Agger are indeed our future CB pairing.

Still what I suggested could only happen in an ideal world. In reality, it's hard to see Agger getting over his back injuries.

Between the greek and our youngsters, I rather go with the latter. The greek was brought in as a stop-gap solution until we see development from Ayala/Kelly.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but they pushed so high up the pitch and Vidic was facing the wrong side. Pace or no pace, I'm sure you can imagine Skrtel/Carra being outdone and reacting the same way.

---

Added on November 24, 2009, 9:13 amIn case you're referring to my post, I'm not playing the blame game here but there are questions need be asked if we are supposingly build a team that challenges for the title. Is Skrtel good enough as his potential suggested? Will Agger ever be fit? Can the likes of Kuyt, Aurelio, Benayoun, Carragher still sustain his performance rate pushing 30? Can the youngsters like El Zhar (No longer a youngster actually!), Kelly, Ayala, Darby, Spearing, Plessis step up as decent squad players? Will we be able to hold on to key players like Mascherano?

We could win the FA Cup or CL this season for all I care, but unless those questions are answered, this time next year we will be asking the same questions again on why we were knocked out of the title race so early.

This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: Nov 24 2009, 09:13 AM

lol. Didnt see this post.
Well now its obviously tomorrow morning 3:45

---

Added on November 24, 2009, 9:59 amExactly what i was thinking. Kuyt was facing the flow while Vidic was just turning to Kuyt.

This post has been edited by visionary1993: Nov 24 2009, 09:59 AM

Backyard
CB : Agger-Skrtel partnership in CB would be solid, 2 types of different player in my point of view. How many times you see these 2 play together? as for future backup Ayala/Kelly for sure. Kygirakos? to fill in the blanks.
RB and LB : So far this area is well covered. A whole bunch of players can play on the side Johnson/Carra/Insua/Dossena/Aurelio and even Skrtel tried RB but it was a flop.

Middle of the Park
DMF or CMF : Which one to play? Lucas/Masch/Aquaman.. i think very straight forward here, Lucas and Masch will have to fight for their place once Aquaman is fully fit.
SWF : No problem in this area. Riera/Babel/Benayoun/ElZhar/Kuyt/Gerrard
AMF: Gerrard and Benayoun would be suited in this position. Enlighten me.. Aquaman is can play AMF?

Up front
CF and SS : Torres/Ngog/Voronin. Simple.

Who can go?
Voronin - i think he have a problem in BPL but seems confident in the European games
Dossena - Game time is very limited. I feel for him.
Babel - 1 day say want to leave the other say committed to club. Let him play all the way till January then we re-evaluate.
Masch - IF ONLY WE COULD SELL MORE THAN 30 MIL and SPEND THE 30 MIL.

LUCAS is ok this season imo.. besides the own goal he did against villa.. lucas and masch are ok.. the problem is our build up.. WE AINT BUILDING UP CHANCES!!

I think Aquaman suit AMF more than a DM. He's a very attacking-minded player and I don't think he suit being a tough-tackling/holding MF.

as for me, i would like to see agger & skrtel on the CB... diff types of player...

reina
johnson skrtel agger insua
masherano
aquilani
gerard
kuyt benayoun
torres

Pot calling kettle black? Why the hell is every match of Liverpool is discussed by your fellow manU supporters? I didn't know we are that important.Some even stayed up late 4-6am even they are working tomorrow just to watch us playing and hope us losing.Are we that important? Or that soothe the pain inside you guys after losing to us 3 times and losing vidic 3 times and find the chance to laugh and taunt at us from other matches because when you guys play against us, you simply dont have the chance to do so.

Anyway, I dont even care about your grandma if she farts or run faster...Save that for yourself.

---

Added on November 24, 2009, 11:24 amVidic type player? It's the same anyway.His type of players only reminds me of something.When he is outdone by pace, he plays dirty.That's Vidic type of player to me.To be honest to you, I dont judge him on a single match.Google it how many he get sent off.Club World Cup final, for instance, he got himself sent off for elbowing someone?Geez.Sorry, but my opinion on him is always bad.

Our record for red cards are always healthy.Before Mascherano was sent off at Anfield this season, we gone 56 league matches without red card(the previous red card was Mascherano at OT).That means one thing, our players dont play like some thugs on the pitch.So, Vidic type of player is always a no no for me.I won't deny his aerial ability though... But he is just not the man to put on the Red shirt...

This post has been edited by solstice818: Nov 24 2009, 11:28 AM

I was like 4 years in Penang Island but only now find the one it called "Restoran Liverpool".. Located just after the small Jelutong flyover and after a Hospital there.. (forgot the Hospital name).. Quite happening environment..


The Nasi Lemak is good (about 7/10 as I "orang kampung" and my mom can cook awesome nasi lemak), and all the nasi goreng is just like 6/10).. But the sup and Char Kuew Teow is great!!... I will go there again tonight during Debrecen match

Vidic is a no-nonsense type of defender. Would glad to have a player "like" him. But not him of course. He was shortlisted for the UEFA defender of the year..but of course john terry won.

Btw, something about rafa's total transfer:

Rafa Benitez's £229m spending spree: The 76 players signed during the Liverpool manager's reign

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...gers-reign.html

Enjoy

This post has been edited by gerrardtorres9: Nov 24 2009, 11:45 AM

When I said Vidic-type of player, I'm referring to the type of defender he is and the skills he poccess. I think that's self-explanatory and needs not to be clarified on my end?

The only thing about him is that, he has bad records playing against us

Nice disguise! Or maybe I'm just sensitive and it was an honest mistake.

Ignore the troll....they just have nothing better to do

no matter how bad he is, at least he is not flopping when playing against small team...
i'm not backing vidic, but we talk about his ability... skrtel is almost there, but he is flop against small team..
n, somebody has to be cool to become a partner with skrtel... n for me, aggers is the best...

For it to be a complete view, you'd need to consider both players bought and sold. That is, if one actually wanted a complete view.