Fuel Consumption of Saga BLM :(, bad.. bad.. bad.. WARN: RM0.20/km
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  Nov 6 2009, 06:30 PM, updated 16y ago
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My newly bought Saga 1.3 AT Fuel Consumption (FC) is really terrible. I pumped in RM48, manage to run up to 230km only. I become so frustrated on the FC and poor afterall I have to pay for the loan somemore...
Wonder what about your Saga FC? How do you all solve it? Can you please share? This post has been edited by cyberkid: Nov 22 2009, 04:49 PM |
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Nov 6 2009, 06:32 PM
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u drive 100% on city ?
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Nov 6 2009, 06:32 PM
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not sure about saga but i think every car almost the same... your done your first service yet since you said new car? Maybe let your engine run in abit more
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Nov 6 2009, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(quackpack @ Nov 6 2009, 06:32 PM) not sure about saga but i think every car almost the same... your done your first service yet since you said new car? Maybe let your engine run in abit more My full tank RM90 can get me 650km+ town driving worrr... |
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Nov 6 2009, 06:44 PM
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how new is new? the engine needs to run in and loosen up then the FC becomes better
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Nov 6 2009, 06:50 PM
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thats sucks..literally, for a 1.3
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Nov 6 2009, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Nov 6 2009, 06:39 PM) My full tank RM90 can get me 650km+ town driving worrr... lolzz..ur SAGA can pump in RM 90 worth of petrol??What petrol you pump in and u sure u driving SAGA? |
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Nov 6 2009, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(Kyusuke_FD3S @ Nov 6 2009, 06:32 PM) u drive 100% on city ? Yup100% city drive in Penang with some coastal highways la  Added on November 6, 2009, 7:12 pm QUOTE(rcracer @ Nov 6 2009, 06:44 PM) how new is new? the engine needs to run in and loosen up then the FC becomes better Brand new. Total mileage still below 1000km This post has been edited by cyberkid: Nov 6 2009, 07:12 PM |
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Nov 6 2009, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 6 2009, 07:09 PM) lolzz..ur SAGA can pump in RM 90 worth of petrol?? I didn't say i'm driving a saga la bro... What petrol you pump in and u sure u driving SAGA? Just to compare with the 1.3.. really high FC compare to my 2.0.. This post has been edited by victor87: Nov 6 2009, 07:14 PM |
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Nov 6 2009, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Nov 6 2009, 07:13 PM) I didn't say i'm driving a saga la bro... What car u driving then?Just to compare with the 1.3.. really high FC compare to my 2.0.. |
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Nov 6 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 6 2009, 07:15 PM) What car u driving then? Vrooom vrooomm.. it's a British made. Rover darachan liked this post
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Nov 6 2009, 07:26 PM
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ouwh, u mean China made Roewe? hehe.. jk.
TS, its normal for new car to have higher FC. |
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Nov 6 2009, 07:29 PM
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bro, ur car normal la hi fc, bcoz its new..
hav it run until 3rd or 4th service, n then c how ur fc goes... summore u r using campro engine, its a hi rev engine, pure city driving of coz la hi fc.. try drive it on hi way, n c how the fc goes... |
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Nov 6 2009, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Nov 6 2009, 07:26 PM) ouwh, u mean China made Roewe? hehe.. jk. Haha.. Nope, we still consider it as Rover TS, its normal for new car to have higher FC.  ekekekek |
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Nov 6 2009, 08:05 PM
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100% city - 250-280km/rm50
90% highway - 390km/rm50 |
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Nov 6 2009, 08:20 PM
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mine 10km/l...90% city...
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Nov 6 2009, 08:52 PM
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My 1.3 satria Rm 40 = 250km...75% highway :S
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Nov 6 2009, 09:27 PM
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u have to consider if it's 100% city
and 2...u have to see how many times u service already this saga is 1 very weird car....u need to service more in order to get better FC |
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Nov 6 2009, 09:50 PM
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BLM----
distance - 20km a day fuel - Rm 50 can last for 1 week n 2 days speed - maintain around 80km/h - 90km/h u decide.... |
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Nov 6 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(andy81 @ Nov 6 2009, 09:50 PM) BLM---- are you going to tell us ur FC is extremely high?distance - 20km a day fuel - Rm 50 can last for 1 week n 2 days speed - maintain around 80km/h - 90km/h u decide.... 20km/day, so RM50 can only go 20 X 9 (1 week + 2 days = 9 days) = 180KM?  Anyway TS dun forget ur is Auto Transmission...There are alot of high FC complaints on BLM AT but still many of you buy the AT and somemore for 100% city drive... This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 6 2009, 10:00 PM |
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Nov 6 2009, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 6 2009, 09:27 PM) u have to consider if it's 100% city I had done my 3rd service. N my Fc had never improved even once. Still the same figure, RM 30 = 120KM+. Even worst after using RON 95 petrol. 100% city driving with always air-con set to minimum n lowest speed fan even during hot afternoon plus never revv more than 3k rpm. You say leh.and 2...u have to see how many times u service already this saga is 1 very weird car....u need to service more in order to get better FC |
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Nov 6 2009, 10:55 PM
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mine also same v urs.. a full tank RM54 manage 2 get 240KM oni.. bt my SA told me can adjust the fuel valve.. maybe the valve open 2 big..jus adjust smaller should be ok... but will lost some performance..
my BLM jus a week old oni.. This post has been edited by klng72: Nov 6 2009, 11:01 PM |
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Nov 7 2009, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 6 2009, 09:55 PM) are you going to tell us ur FC is extremely high? There are lots of same complaint cases on BLM AT? How about you? Do you experience it?20km/day, so RM50 can only go 20 X 9 (1 week + 2 days = 9 days) = 180KM? Anyway TS dun forget ur is Auto Transmission...There are alot of high FC complaints on BLM AT but still many of you buy the AT and somemore for 100% city drive... |
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Nov 7 2009, 08:34 AM
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Hi cyberkid. i'm driving a BLM Auto 09 April with IAFM problem. But i manage to get 280km-3XXkm per Rm55 refuel. I also pure city driving. With daily jam from cheras to Pj. But have to train your right foot and patient la ...
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Nov 7 2009, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(cyberkid @ Nov 7 2009, 08:24 AM) There are lots of same complaint cases on BLM AT? How about you? Do you experience it? Mine is MT, before I bought my 1st National car, i adi know Proton AT is famous in terms of high FC, and no exception for Saga BLM as well...you can go to browse BLM club thread, BLM AT high FC is not a secret adi...Try to think for that, 1.3L engine for 1000+KG weight somemore AT...Anyway, RM55 can give me 400-450KM for city drive and 530KM for highway (90-100km/h). This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 7 2009, 09:56 AM |
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Nov 7 2009, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(andy81 @ Nov 6 2009, 09:50 PM) BLM---- Aiyo,its not how long your petrol can last ,but how FAR you can travel with a full tank!distance - 20km a day fuel - Rm 50 can last for 1 week n 2 days speed - maintain around 80km/h - 90km/h u decide.... Like that,I can fill up my car now RM 65 everyday travel 10 km and say my petrol lasted 20 days meaning its damn good FC ah? |
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Nov 7 2009, 11:53 AM
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1.3 M line Auto
update fuel consumption for my first tank of fuel~ RON95 @ RM1.80/L 4-9-09 RM60 (33.33L) - 240km (city drive 90%) 11-9-09 RM50 (27.77L)- 240km (city drive 90% + raining + peak hour traffic) RON97 @ RM2.05/L 19-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)- 300km (city drive 60%) 24-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)- 290km 29-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)-262km RON95 @ RM1.80/L 3-10-09 RM57.20 (31.7L) - 318km 8-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 286km 12-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) -280km 17-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 320km 21-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 297km 26-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 320km 30-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 338km 2-11-09 RM55 (30.5L) - pending This post has been edited by noelogy2007: Nov 7 2009, 11:54 AM |
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Nov 7 2009, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(noelogy2007 @ Nov 7 2009, 11:53 AM) 1.3 M line Auto Wow,looks quite bad bro ..update fuel consumption for my first tank of fuel~ RON95 @ RM1.80/L 4-9-09 RM60 (33.33L) - 240km (city drive 90%) 11-9-09 RM50 (27.77L)- 240km (city drive 90% + raining + peak hour traffic) RON97 @ RM2.05/L 19-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)- 300km (city drive 60%) 24-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)- 290km 29-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)-262km RON95 @ RM1.80/L 3-10-09 RM57.20 (31.7L) - 318km 8-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 286km 12-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) -280km 17-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 320km 21-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 297km 26-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 320km 30-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 338km 2-11-09 RM55 (30.5L) - pending |
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Nov 7 2009, 01:12 PM
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if noelogy fc bad den mine worst!!
my first tank of fuel~ RON95 @ RM1.80/L 29-10-09 RM54 (30L) - 240km (city drive) 5-11-09 RM54(30L) - pending |
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Nov 7 2009, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(klng72 @ Nov 7 2009, 01:12 PM) if noelogy fc bad den mine worst!! erk... much more higher than my 1.6 persona !my first tank of fuel~ RON95 @ RM1.80/L 29-10-09 RM54 (30L) - 240km (city drive) 5-11-09 RM54(30L) - pending This post has been edited by Xefron: Nov 7 2009, 01:25 PM |
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Nov 7 2009, 02:07 PM
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of coz la..persona 1.6..blm 1.3...blm underpower...till now,my gf's car fc is around RM55 last for 300km...now 20k ord
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Nov 7 2009, 02:11 PM
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ya.. also much more higher than my old accord 1.6 ..
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Nov 7 2009, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Nov 6 2009, 10:13 PM) I had done my 3rd service. N my Fc had never improved even once. Still the same figure, RM 30 = 120KM+. Even worst after using RON 95 petrol. 100% city driving with always air-con set to minimum n lowest speed fan even during hot afternoon plus never revv more than 3k rpm. You say leh. i dn't know abt umine is AT and my full tank can do 440KM or more simply said....i drive 80KM a day...1 bar will drop u calculate try maintaining at 85KM/H where the IAFM is open...the IAFM there is not for decoration |
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Nov 7 2009, 02:36 PM
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dear all,
so far no choice, i have to accept it, feeling numb already 90% city traffic jam, can go only 280km sometimes can achieve 330+, i also very happy already (got using higway) so far, slowly improve la.... just be patient your FC within 5k will improve |
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Nov 7 2009, 02:39 PM
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when it pass 20k mark... the FC became good...
just see at my fuelly... This post has been edited by ahucks: Nov 7 2009, 02:40 PM |
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Nov 7 2009, 11:32 PM
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Using Saga Blm..
Full tank can go to 290.. city driving... using BHP... |
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Nov 8 2009, 12:11 AM
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with ron95, fc will become worse lah...aiyoyo...
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Nov 8 2009, 12:40 AM
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re u serious?
even my 9 year old iswara ..doing Rm50 for 300KM I also feel pissed.. |
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Nov 8 2009, 01:44 AM
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the campro engine already well known for high FC, buyers should not suprise for this.
sometimes low cc doesn't mean low fuel consumption. i will go for myvi anytime than saga blm if looking into FC, at least it's a japanese engine with better feedback than campro. |
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Nov 8 2009, 01:50 AM
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it's time to get a turbodiesel..
more torque, more powerful, lower FC, more reliable than a petrol-powered ! having 3 diesel vehicle in my house, that's what i experienced. a BMW Turbodiesel, a Isuzu Super-Commonrail diesel, a Mercedes Turbodiesel. This post has been edited by victor87: Nov 8 2009, 01:51 AM |
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Nov 8 2009, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(ahucks @ Nov 7 2009, 02:39 PM) when it pass 20k mark... the FC became good... When low CC meet heavy car plus AT Light Foot is really importantjust see at my fuelly... I am personally driving Avanza 1.3AT 40L ron95 shell around 500km with majority highway drive with 80-90km/j (That around 8l/100km) If got go inside Kl or stuck in Heavy jam it only last me 450km only that 8.8l/100km already If my cousin with heavy foot drive want archive 400km per full tank also hard == |
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Nov 8 2009, 08:30 PM
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campro are never known for good FC
malaysian made engine so don't expect much  at least proton design by themselves eh(or with some help from lotus i don;t know) |
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Nov 9 2009, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(ahucks @ Nov 7 2009, 02:39 PM) when it pass 20k mark... the FC became good... wah just see at my fuelly...  your BLM FC really GOOD ~~~ |
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Nov 9 2009, 11:41 AM
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well
*sarcasm on* how about trade in for a expensive BMW or Merc or Honduh to get good fuel consumption? oh wait, so then I'd have to pay more money just to save fuel?  *sarcasm off* just try to make the best of it and practice driving light footed. you'd be amazed and what FC you can achieve. |
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Nov 9 2009, 01:49 PM
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already light foot all the way still 270km nia...
u shud get a campro and try it... all i know is this campro got wide variance...from low 200km to 400+km per tank...zz |
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Nov 10 2009, 11:20 PM
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kawanku, u got check your tire pressure or not? coz knowing our cebai Proton, they keep stocks in open field for quite sometime, then once got order, they take la. so tire pressure might be underinflated wei.
when i collected my new auto waja CPS from the showroom, my first full tank finished and clocked 384km! i almost fainted. then i checked the bloody tire pressure. it was at 21 psi. machauhex..... after i pumped to 35 psi, and refueled, my next mileage showed i did 520km. oh yeaaaaa..... |
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Nov 10 2009, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(TUV-hyperstar @ Nov 10 2009, 11:20 PM) kawanku, u got check your tire pressure or not? coz knowing our cebai Proton, they keep stocks in open field for quite sometime, then once got order, they take la. so tire pressure might be underinflated wei. Ur waja fulltank how much (RM) oh?when i collected my new auto waja CPS from the showroom, my first full tank finished and clocked 384km! i almost fainted. then i checked the bloody tire pressure. it was at 21 psi. machauhex..... after i pumped to 35 psi, and refueled, my next mileage showed i did 520km. oh yeaaaaa..... |
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Nov 11 2009, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(cyberkid @ Nov 10 2009, 11:46 PM) Ur waja fulltank how much (RM) oh? in the manual book, it says full tank is 60L. which should translates into RM 105 in current petrol prices. but everytime the fuel empty light is up, and i refuel, it is always between RM 83 - RM 87. until the next light up. |
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Nov 22 2009, 03:53 PM
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I was told by the Honda SA tht Honda City costs only RM0.12-0.13/km
Wht the.. This post has been edited by cyberkid: Nov 22 2009, 04:49 PM |
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Nov 22 2009, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(cyberkid @ Nov 22 2009, 03:53 PM) I was told by the Honda SA tht Honda City costs only RM0.12-0.13/L Don't always believe what SA is telling you. Wht the.. BTW, it should be km/l. This post has been edited by sphiroth: Nov 22 2009, 04:47 PM |
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Nov 22 2009, 04:45 PM
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i drove my manual kelisa from tol duta to tol simpang pulai the petrol cost me RM20. i drove my auto persona cost me plus minus RM25.
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Nov 22 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 04:36 PM) Don't always believe what SA is telling you. Oops.. Sorry, mistake. RM0.12-RM0.13/kmBTW, it should be km/l. |
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Nov 22 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(cyberkid @ Nov 22 2009, 04:48 PM) Oops.. Sorry, mistake. RM0.12-RM0.13/km I think most people would prefer km/l, since RM/km is dependant on fuel price.  |
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Dec 25 2009, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 22 2009, 04:51 PM) I think most people would prefer km/l, since RM/km is dependant on fuel price. Saga BLM consumption is not that bad after all if the mileage has reached 10000 km. Drove my spouse's saga to S'pore today and the consumption is 13.5 km/l. Not bad considering the average speed was 110 to 120 km/h with 1 adult. 3 children and fairly heavy load during the journey. Guess the engine needs to break in after 10,000 km as the first 10,000 km consumption was a disappointment as it recorde only 10km/l to 11km/l,a disappointing figure as Waja's consumption is better. |
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Dec 25 2009, 10:19 AM
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long distance travelling n city driving are 2 different scenarios... the main FC increase is due to start n stop traffic conditions.
my waja cps normally records 10km/liter during city driving (MT mind u) and it can go up to 13.85km/ltr during my trip from kl to penang with continuous 110-130kmh driving style. |
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Dec 25 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 7 2009, 02:19 PM) i dn't know abt u how to maintain if got traffic light? city driving will hurt most AT car. mine is AT and my full tank can do 440KM or more simply said....i drive 80KM a day...1 bar will drop u calculate try maintaining at 85KM/H where the IAFM is open...the IAFM there is not for decoration  Added on December 25, 2009, 11:05 am QUOTE(kayelchan @ Dec 25 2009, 01:37 AM) Saga BLM consumption is not that bad after all if the mileage has reached 10000 km. Drove my spouse's saga to S'pore today and the consumption is 13.5 km/l. Not bad considering the average speed was 110 to 120 km/h with 1 adult. 3 children and fairly heavy load during the journey. Guess the engine needs to break in after 10,000 km as the first 10,000 km consumption was a disappointment as it recorde only 10km/l to 11km/l,a disappointing figure as Waja's consumption is better. if using hway..sure no problem maa. if u keep ur speed constant of course the car sip less petrol then driving to spore using the trunk road.This post has been edited by theanswer: Dec 25 2009, 11:05 AM |
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Dec 25 2009, 02:27 PM
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u can spend 70k buy honda city or toyota vios ...then you save few ringgit on fc...
u buy cheapo saga...40k...u should have 30k extra for u to fill in petrol for years not so bad la  This post has been edited by xshiro: Dec 25 2009, 02:31 PM |
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Dec 26 2009, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Dec 25 2009, 02:27 PM) u can spend 70k buy honda city or toyota vios ...then you save few ringgit on fc... nice one! u buy cheapo saga...40k...u should have 30k extra for u to fill in petrol for years not so bad la  btw, the blm i bought for my sister back in october was sipping petrol more than my 1.6 and another 1.8T car mileage over 2.3k. hopefully it will get better after 10k. |
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Dec 26 2009, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Nov 6 2009, 06:39 PM) My full tank RM90 can get me 650km+ town driving worrr... before or after servicing? |
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Dec 26 2009, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(mazejsjs @ Dec 26 2009, 12:46 PM) before or after servicing? He isn't driving a BLM |
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Dec 26 2009, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Dec 26 2009, 01:44 PM) He isn't driving a BLM yeah! was a rover with 2.0T diesel engine btw, anyone of you guys had change the stock BLM steering to better one? the spring vibrating sound inside the steering column is kinda unbearable sometimes! i complaint to proton sc during the 1st service but they said it was normal for blm |
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Dec 26 2009, 05:00 PM
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MIne too....approx 250-300km for RM 50 petrol, RON 95. But i often drive in the city...caught in the jam...FC is considered normal loh...havent tried travel long distance drive yet.
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Dec 30 2009, 12:19 AM
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it's normal. when i first got my car also the FC is terrible. Then later, it will improve.
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Dec 31 2009, 04:22 PM
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hye guys..
i just bought new car saga se white AT.... myb im not that patient to use MT in JB city. ill receive my car next week, and i just wanted to know any shop good for : 1.tinted (NEED 50% N how much?) 2. rim and tyre, looking foward to trade in my ori rim+tyre to sport rim 15"(how much the original rim+tyre) 3. myb spoiler evo 10, (can trade in original meh?) can give price spoiler+paint please... 4. myb lcd that can put in above my mp3? how much n brand? 5. speaker+amplifier, price+brand 6. and lastly shop that provide body sticker, adn carbon fibre sticker that can last long err... myb that all, i just need normal2 stuff, after all it just AT looking shop in JB area, can please give the details about the shop also Thank you or myb i need any other more, like fuel savers stuff or u guys can list it out. hehhee |
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Dec 31 2009, 05:32 PM
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i believe manual saga has better fc right?
after all, wasnt it normal for car fc to get better after the first service? of course before first service fc is bad... |
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Jan 3 2010, 06:17 PM
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Man, that is worse than a diesel truck/van... even RM 50 on Renault Kangoo 1.5 dCi will give 540km for city driving. Even more for highways.
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Jan 3 2010, 11:40 PM
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renault kangoo is one kick ass car.. The FC is Crazy one la.. super save petrol...hahaha..somemore 1.5 Turbo diesel..but the look is abit ahahahhaa...
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Jan 4 2010, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(kobe10 @ Jan 3 2010, 11:40 PM) renault kangoo is one kick ass car.. The FC is Crazy one la.. super save petrol...hahaha..somemore 1.5 Turbo diesel..but the look is abit ahahahhaa... but the car look weird. |
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Jan 5 2010, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(stereokumonomu @ Dec 31 2009, 05:32 PM) i believe manual saga has better fc right? totally agreed. after 1st service, fc will improve. A LOT.after all, wasnt it normal for car fc to get better after the first service? of course before first service fc is bad... fc for long distance (highway all the way) is definitely better than city driving of course, but you have to keep constant speed la. no sudden acceleration, braking (like shell super save adver. hahaha) |
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Jan 6 2010, 02:38 AM
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looks like a bad news for me. getting my saga by this week. gonna use it as daily car, but then after saw all comments and reviewed, regret pulak. lol. what to do
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Jan 6 2010, 08:58 AM
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break in properly and shouldnt be a problem...
the higher the cc of a car the less power n fuel needed to move the car...so why wait...upgrade to 1.6 la...roadtax 1.3 inside 1.6 can save on yearly roadtax oso ahahhaha |
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Jan 6 2010, 10:02 AM
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i own a Honda City and co provide me w a Proton Blm AT.
same driving style aka super light foot. BLM is sucking me (my co) dry... rm50 gives me +-250km...while my City gives me +-440km for the same amount of petrol. |
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Jan 6 2010, 10:18 AM
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ur city is idsi? vtec? both are superior , while this saga has a plain dohc engine...
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Jan 6 2010, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(vtec-ing @ Jan 6 2010, 10:02 AM) i own a Honda City and co provide me w a Proton Blm AT. as what xshiro say..same driving style aka super light foot. BLM is sucking me (my co) dry... rm50 gives me +-250km...while my City gives me +-440km for the same amount of petrol. saga - 40k car city - 85k car (i assume it is s spec) saga 250 vs city 440 so 45k for petrol ... simple maths... assume pump Rm400 per month & petrol price still @ 1.8 per liter 45000 /400 = 112.5 month== near 10 years of oil. worth lah.. saga still a good buy in my opinion... |
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Jan 6 2010, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(yhanwong @ Jan 6 2010, 12:06 PM) as what xshiro say.. Ehh u haven't count in the bank interest leh.. roughly count on price different from 2 cars. saga - 40k car city - 85k car (i assume it is s spec) saga 250 vs city 440 so 45k for petrol ... simple maths... assume pump Rm400 per month & petrol price still @ 1.8 per liter 45000 /400 = 112.5 month== near 10 years of oil. worth lah.. saga still a good buy in my opinion...  45k x 2.8% = 1260/year 1260 x 5years = 6300 get 15.75 months more petrol 1260 x 7years = 8820 get 22.05 months more petrol 1260 x 9years = 11340 get 28.35 months more petrol |
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Jan 6 2010, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Jan 6 2010, 12:55 PM) Ehh u haven't count in the bank interest leh.. roughly count on price different from 2 cars. yeap.. good point.. 45k x 2.8% = 1260/year 1260 x 5years = 6300 get 15.75 months more petrol 1260 x 7years = 8820 get 22.05 months more petrol 1260 x 9years = 11340 get 28.35 months more petrol |
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Jan 6 2010, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(vtec-ing @ Jan 6 2010, 10:02 AM) i own a Honda City and co provide me w a Proton Blm AT. saga = rm0.20/kmsame driving style aka super light foot. BLM is sucking me (my co) dry... rm50 gives me +-250km...while my City gives me +-440km for the same amount of petrol. city = rm0.1136/km rm45,000/(0.20-0.1136) = 520,833. you'll need to use the city for more than 520k km to justify the price difference. your company's management is quite smart actually edit : salah quote This post has been edited by zx7177: Jan 6 2010, 08:30 PM |
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Jan 6 2010, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Jan 6 2010, 12:55 PM) Ehh u haven't count in the bank interest leh.. roughly count on price different from 2 cars. haha .. i love this!.. 45k x 2.8% = 1260/year 1260 x 5years = 6300 get 15.75 months more petrol 1260 x 7years = 8820 get 22.05 months more petrol 1260 x 9years = 11340 get 28.35 months more petrol  and with 520k km that is crazy XD.. i think almost 200k km ur car already sell to someone else jor lo ~ |
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Jan 6 2010, 11:35 PM
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I think u hv to put in the pride n pleasure into calculation as well. Not to mention reliability and safety too.
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Jan 7 2010, 02:53 AM
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Oh god...that was very bad milleage...
I use my Kancil 660(facelifted,all stock OEM parts,MT tranny) Pumped full tank mostly around RM38 to almost RM40.I can get around 237-278 km. I live in hulu langat,& always going to Ampang,& Wangsa Maju & around KL due to my job.....combined with hill climbing(which is my house area & ampang hill which the only way to go to ampang-pandan indah) & all town driving...I think it was quite good as I mostly switching the aircond only when in traffic jam & full throttle when climbing or using a highway. Viva 1000cc(all standard,OEM parts,AT tranny) Pumped full tank mostly around RM44.mostly can go around 300-344km before the warning light appear. So far I never drive BLM,only old saga(year 2002,1.3,all standard OEM parts,MT tranny) but cant remember the reading since I rarely use the car(only clocked 50++k km in last 9 years lol) Added on January 7, 2010, 3:07 am QUOTE(bai1101 @ Nov 8 2009, 02:02 AM) When low CC meet heavy car plus AT Light Foot is really important ehh really arr? I am personally driving Avanza 1.3AT 40L ron95 shell around 500km with majority highway drive with 80-90km/j (That around 8l/100km) If got go inside Kl or stuck in Heavy jam it only last me 450km only that 8.8l/100km already If my cousin with heavy foot drive want archive 400km per full tank also hard ==  I only get 470 km with RM116 litres of fuel tank with my 2.7l 2001 Landcruiser.I also driving with same speed in highway around 60-80km/h(only sometimes I do 80-90km/h)  Even Z33(6MT) in the house also have good milleage considering 3.5 litres sports performances engine.My bro got around 500km of RM127(RON 97) with city-highway driving & highway speed was around 80,90 & 120km/h depending on situation & traffic. But the best of all is my bike....the 250cc with RM26 of 15 litres tank can get me as good as 244 km with speed of 160-200km/h.....mostly I riding around 120 km/h so it returned around 250-260 km of worthy milleage....  This post has been edited by Cyprid Dark ii: Jan 7 2010, 03:07 AM |
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Jan 7 2010, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(smokey @ Nov 9 2009, 01:49 PM) already light foot all the way still 270km nia... my 1.6 Manual campro is currently doing 450 km / 40 L of Ron 97 (city driving)u shud get a campro and try it... all i know is this campro got wide variance...from low 200km to 400+km per tank...zz driving straight to penang or taiping with no jams 525 km / 40 L Ron 97 |
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Jan 7 2010, 05:50 PM
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u sure ur car can pump till 40L? at most only i try is 35L
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Jan 7 2010, 05:51 PM
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im driving a saga, FC in city its bad, really bad. But once u hit the highways, its wayy alot better. So in conclusion its a car where its FC shines in the highway. Not in the city. Which is kinda sad also lah cuz i live in the city, but already bought the car so i cant complain much liao :/
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Jan 7 2010, 07:13 PM
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saving cents can be done in many ways...btw, i drive a blm too
apart from counting km per gallon, i do suggest you plan your journey well, with all the hoohaas of gps, wikimapia, gmap and etc... i got a friend in the office who keeps on complaining about his blm km-per-gallon issue, but since he is a smoker, i just  |
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Jan 7 2010, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(R a D ! c 4 L @ Jan 7 2010, 05:51 PM) im driving a saga, FC in city its bad, really bad. But once u hit the highways, its wayy alot better. So in conclusion its a car where its FC shines in the highway. Not in the city. Which is kinda sad also lah cuz i live in the city, but already bought the car so i cant complain much liao :/ Hmmm..I guess every car out there not only Saga BLM will have better FC on highway compared to city driving... |
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Jan 8 2010, 02:05 AM
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i wondering how some BLMer can get good FC in city..
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Jan 8 2010, 03:49 AM
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For SAGA BLM, M-Line, Auto, 14-inch stock alloy rim. RM 50.00 (RON95, 27.8L petrol) can get 310km. FC is about 11.2km per liter, 0.16 sen / km. It was consider average normal FC for a heavy weight 1,065kg car. This FC as same as Inokom Atos 1.0 auto. I don't think it makan minyak la.
Don't worry, slowly it will improved. Don't always push the car to limit, gentle and know how to play with the pedal. |
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Jan 8 2010, 09:10 AM
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What do you expect from a 1.3 (auto somemore!). I think the fuel consumption is not that bad, my waja 1.6 also nearly the same. If you are looking for a low consumption car, then they savvy is probably a better choice (RM40=300km, town use)
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Jan 8 2010, 09:41 AM
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got my saga se, rm50=350km for JB city usage, fesh form oven, use for 2day FC. quite ok it hink for new car. is it???
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Jan 8 2010, 12:09 PM
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just get my saga yesterday @ 4pm. Filled full tank. guess what, now its clocked at 190KM, and i have 1 bar left. I didnt drive anywhere. Soon after i get my car, i went to pyramid. after 8.30 i go back with no jam. So what went wrong. Oh and i didnt speed at all. Maintain 60-80kmh.
Overall, the car is very nice and comfortable hehe |
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Jan 8 2010, 12:28 PM
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@Wangan
Woah  For real? Maybe there's something wrong with your car bro. I also just got my car last Tuesday and filled up RM50 of RON95 when the warning light were blinking. My car clocked at approx. 330KM when the warning lights blinked again. Mine is manual tranny, traffic jams is costing me my legs and joints lol On highway I revved up my car to 3.5K RPM or so maintaining 110KM/H. Not bad FC for I guess considering my driving style huhu I hope I would get better FC after the 1st service |
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Jan 8 2010, 12:34 PM
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yup for real hoho. But maybe because its "Too Fresh". Next time i will try to fill in RON97.See how it goes.
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Jan 8 2010, 05:56 PM
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mine it not any better either.
full tank about 33 Liter = 270km. RM22cent/km somemore manual |
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Jan 10 2010, 11:44 PM
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just get back from Melaka. Drove from KL to Melaka. Full tank. 90 % highway. managed to go round round abit. Total mileage 280KM only. i loled
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Jan 11 2010, 09:44 PM
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I am driving new saga, i did my first service, going to do my second one, i am pumping Ron97, so my bill is about RM58 everytime from light on till full tank, maintain driving speed at 70 to 80km/h, revolution below 2krpm, i can make 360km.
A lot of my friends told me that, after few times service, the FC will become better... |
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Jul 22 2010, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(ichigotai @ Nov 6 2009, 08:05 PM) 100% city - 250-280km/rm50 almost the same as yours... 90% highway - 390km/rm50 |
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Jul 22 2010, 10:54 PM
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pump petronas if going outstation,u will feel amaze with it,i pump petronas at cameron,when coming down tekan like gila,plus car stop for 5 times when jam around tapah,i manage to get 11 cent/km.....rm 1.8/l
but petronas for my car no power,so when city drive i use caltex or esso,=x but har,i din on air cond,=x |
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Jul 22 2010, 11:12 PM
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last time when i was driving an auto tranny gen2 full tank i can only get 330km the most , it was 70% highway 30 % city
other user report they can squeeze something like 400km +, 80% city 20% highway unbelievable and i mean these people words not the car |
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Jul 22 2010, 11:14 PM
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I'm also driving a blm auto summore, but dun care about FC
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Jul 22 2010, 11:59 PM
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My Saga BLM 08 AT FC is around 11km/L. Using Ron95. 50% city and 50% highway
I don't expect much from a 40k car. |
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Jul 23 2010, 02:30 AM
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why the FC from u guys is so much different? some claim only 1L/8KM while some claim 1L/13KM?
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Jul 23 2010, 04:22 AM
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This car should have a 1.6 engine. Proton should recall all BLM and fit it with 1.6.
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Jul 23 2010, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Signal1 @ Jul 23 2010, 04:22 AM) This car should have a 1.6 engine. Proton should recall all BLM and fit it with 1.6. Thats almost impossible and I don't think there is even 0.000001% of chances for it to happen. My personal experience, Altis 1.8 from png -> kl RM 60+ and BLM (A) from png -> kl RM70+..  |
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Jul 23 2010, 09:59 AM
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my manual BLM currently pumping Vpower 97, with 12.63km/ L, considered I am a time-chaser
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Jul 23 2010, 10:01 AM
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mine still the same after 3rd. service - for rm.50(rm.1.80) = 200~220km(max) on town driving...now give up about fc and going to mod mode.......hehehehehe
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Jul 23 2010, 10:06 AM
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different ppls may have different fc rating,
averaging, this car is really have bad fc for a 1.3cc which kinda like a 1.8cc car yet worse, lack of initial pick up. thats y i left this car after 2yrs of ownership while im comparing with my trusty myvi 1.3, the FC from Myvi clocked far better than this blm on same route by same driver. blm everything on stock, while myvi on 15inch rim somemore. i also scratching my head as well. 0.15 vs 0.28sen per km on town driving. same route, same driver and same time. if plus minus 10% to 15% FC still acceptable as i know saga is bigger but weight more or less the same. |
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Jul 23 2010, 10:45 AM
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that's campro brother. nothing to blame =)
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Jul 23 2010, 10:50 AM
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for me it depends on how you drive ur car...if always push accelarate pedal than ur fc must go high...and always check ur tyre pressure, engine oil or spark plug...
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Jul 23 2010, 11:48 AM
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so in this case, is there any solutions to make it better even though the person is already light-footed...??
or there no solution at all until this moment today...?? somebody please enlighten us, thanks... |
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Jul 23 2010, 11:52 AM
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Both Myvi and BLM have different engine characteristics la
K3VE has better low end compared to S4PE which only good in mid and high RPM.. FC is also depends on your right foot. And you also should know and learn to adapt to your car characteristics. Hence Myvi is good for city driving, BLM good for cruising  |
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Jul 23 2010, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Jul 23 2010, 11:52 AM) Both Myvi and BLM have different engine characteristics la +1.K3VE has better low end compared to S4PE which only good in mid and high RPM.. FC is also depends on your right foot. And you also should know and learn to adapt to your car characteristics. Hence Myvi is good for city driving, BLM good for cruising I think majority of BLM FC is about 10-12KM/L, those who complain for FC here i bet they almost came from Selangor state(around KL.../jam City driving), for my manual BLM don't even lower than 12km/L since i bought it a year ago. I think we already said so much times, want auto no Proton, want Proton go manual, but nowadyas AT BLM is alot users than MT, and when FC suffer complain here complain there. Added on July 23, 2010, 2:07 pm QUOTE(dominic @ Jul 23 2010, 10:06 AM) different ppls may have different fc rating, 100kg more heavier than Myvi not consider much heavier?averaging, this car is really have bad fc for a 1.3cc which kinda like a 1.8cc car yet worse, lack of initial pick up. thats y i left this car after 2yrs of ownership while im comparing with my trusty myvi 1.3, the FC from Myvi clocked far better than this blm on same route by same driver. blm everything on stock, while myvi on 15inch rim somemore. i also scratching my head as well. 0.15 vs 0.28sen per km on town driving. same route, same driver and same time. if plus minus 10% to 15% FC still acceptable as i know saga is bigger but weight more or less the same. This post has been edited by coolkwc: Jul 23 2010, 02:07 PM |
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Jul 23 2010, 05:32 PM
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u not yet install this.. that's why ur FC bad...
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Jul 23 2010, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jul 23 2010, 05:32 PM) u not yet install this.. that's why ur FC bad... what is that? where is it?\ |
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Jul 23 2010, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jul 23 2010, 05:37 PM) what is that? where is it? there la.. cannot see meh?? there.... |
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Jul 23 2010, 05:40 PM
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so what is it? what for?
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Jul 23 2010, 05:47 PM
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i suspect workmanship plays a role too. If the part is spec is too loose, so, its not working as it is supposed to be. In layman's term, tak rapat, so, fuel leaking/not completely burned, thus higher FC.
Workmanship issue can be seen from interior, exterior, so, its not a surprise it happens in engine too. Japanese control the tolerance of the specification very very tight, 1mm out, it is out. Malaysian? you know la, 1mm saja. Here 1 mm, there 1 mm. Then gone la. ECU and Autogear logic control plays a part too. And weight of cause, but 100kg dont cause you much FC. like carry 2 more person only, probably, you will feel heavy if you wanna race. But FC, should not be too big difference. This post has been edited by stinger82: Jul 23 2010, 05:52 PM |
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Jul 23 2010, 05:49 PM
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myvi auto is 15.xkm/l in highway, with 130km/h average. city, bumper to bumper in kl is about 12.5km/l, 4 years myvi auto. |
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Jul 23 2010, 05:51 PM
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my car usually do 440-460km/tank... RM70 petrol... good or bad huh..
Added on July 23, 2010, 5:52 pm QUOTE(BuFung @ Jul 23 2010, 05:32 PM) u not yet install this.. that's why ur FC bad... QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 23 2010, 05:47 PM) i suspect workmanship plays a role too. If the part is spec is too loose, so, its not working as it is supposed to be. In layman's term, tak rapat, so, fuel leaking/not completely burned, thus higher FC. ur friend's Persona got this meter or not? if not than no good... high FC...Workmanship issue can be seen from interior, exterior, so, its not a surprise it happens in engine too. Japanese control the tolerance of the specification very very tight, 1mm out, it is out. Malaysian? you know la, 1mm saja. Here 1 mm, there 1 mm. Then gone la. ECU and Autogear logic control plays a part too. And weight of cause, but 100kg dont cause you much FC. like carry 2 more person only, probably, you will feel heavy if you wanna race. But FC, should not be too big difference. This post has been edited by BuFung: Jul 23 2010, 05:52 PM |
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Jul 23 2010, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jul 23 2010, 05:51 PM) my car usually do 440-460km/tank... RM70 petrol... good or bad huh.. not bad la, 11.xkm/l. auto or manual? |
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Jul 23 2010, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 23 2010, 05:52 PM) not bad la, 11.xkm/l. Auto... that is city drive oh.. if highway fully.. can achieve 600km... auto or manual? |
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Jul 23 2010, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jul 23 2010, 05:53 PM) Auto... that is city drive oh.. if highway fully.. can achieve 600km... hehe, power, i always pump fuel when showing 4xxkm scare push car if meter is wrong. |
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Jul 25 2010, 08:58 AM
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the FC is getting worse after doing the regular service.
Now RM50 manage to run 200km only... thts CRAPPY! |
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Jul 25 2010, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(noelogy2007 @ Nov 7 2009, 11:53 AM) 1.3 M line Auto your calculation is wrong .update fuel consumption for my first tank of fuel~ RON95 @ RM1.80/L 4-9-09 RM60 (33.33L) - 240km (city drive 90%) 11-9-09 RM50 (27.77L)- 240km (city drive 90% + raining + peak hour traffic) RON97 @ RM2.05/L 19-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)- 300km (city drive 60%) 24-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)- 290km 29-9-09 RM60 (29.27L)-262km RON95 @ RM1.80/L 3-10-09 RM57.20 (31.7L) - 318km 8-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 286km 12-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) -280km 17-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 320km 21-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 297km 26-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 320km 30-10-09 RM55 (30.5L) - 338km 2-11-09 RM55 (30.5L) - pending you cannot count like tht , there will be a flaw. By pumping a fix amount of petrol into your car will mess up the calculation. Because : 1) there will still be petrol in your car 2) you did not fill it full when you fill up your car petrol. I'm kinda lazy to explain it thoroughly , you try to think yourself. but there is a solution to get the correct counting. When you pump your car petrol , make sure you pump it full, you can see when the fuel is just an inch away from your cap. reset your counting, then start driving , until red light comes out or what ( just make sure it dont get empty ) . then go to pump petrol to full again . Then do the math , take the km you got and divide by how many litre you pump. then u will get how many km u get per litre. you can only get the exact counting from full to full. |
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Jul 29 2010, 02:41 PM
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this is how i count my fuel comsumption for my saga blm taken on 4th May 2010.
Juz went for 1st service ( 1000km ) my fuel signal lighted and i still jalan for around 30km then onli pump RM 50 petrol BHP ( RM 1.80 per litre ) and i press to the trip calculation button once i pumped petrol. on halfway my mom suddenly pump for me RM 45.6 BHP ( RM 1.85 per litre ) increased petrol price on 16th July 2010 So total petrol price is RM 94.40 ( after converted RM 1.85 to RM 1.80 in order for more accurate ) Fuel signal lighted when i jalan until 580KM but must add 30 KM due to over jalan from beginning. So RM 94.4 / 610 KM = RM 0.1547 per KM ( 45% city drive, 45% semi city semi highway, 10% highway drive ) city drive = heavy traffice light Semi city & highway = can go to 5th transmission for short distance / light traffice light highway = Oooo Balik Kampung no traffice light / smoooth 50% of all the trip is opening air conditioner between my blm is a manual transmission and im not quite familiar to control the pedal so i think waste abit of petrol. Coa i scare " sei for" mati engine so i tekan kuat kuat fuel pedal in order to dun let engine mati. |
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Jul 29 2010, 03:09 PM
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my sis's saga blm oso got terrible FC
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Jul 29 2010, 03:12 PM
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bobbychin
is it really the problem of the BLM? or ur sis's right foot? |
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Jul 29 2010, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(cyberkid @ Jul 25 2010, 08:58 AM) the FC is getting worse after doing the regular service. mmm... urs really suck...Now RM50 manage to run 200km only... thts CRAPPY! maybe i can share my experience with my friend who own iswara... i borrow his car and drive to Melaka from Kajang.. n guess what... I need to fill RM30~40 just to get there but my persona need around RM15~20.. so open the hood n check the head found out leak.... no wonder it drink a lot.. the engine pressure become low due leak so power reduce n i press more to get power.. so maybe u can check the head.. maybe u can find leakage at that area.. |
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Jul 29 2010, 11:11 PM
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seem like no different with my 2.0L Peugeot 405.
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Jul 31 2010, 11:42 AM
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even my friend perdana sei manual (with mod) almost full throttle all the way still got rm50=250km ler..
why so bad with proton new engine these day lately? campro 1.3 rm50=250-300km ? wtf!! even me will felt really depressed with it... better buy viva/i10 a like car if FC is the main point.. |
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Mar 5 2011, 02:25 AM
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1,524 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras | Puchong | Seremban | KL | PJ
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Guys I really wish to knw the FC for manual. Any1 driving manual here?
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Mar 5 2011, 02:38 AM
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my friend also complaint with his BLM, eventho its manual.. i can see maintain at 90km/j the RPM at 3k oredy.. maybe becoz of that?
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Mar 5 2011, 10:16 AM
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Well im driving a BLM 08 manual previously. 80% highway 110km - 120km/h . My fc is always 320km for rm 52 - rm55. clocked at 58k km still the same ended up i sold the BLM and opt for a Savvy. now i'm happy the same amount of money for 400 - 420km. I'm travelling 100 - 130 km daily so after doing some maths... i ended up with a Savvy
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Mar 5 2011, 11:43 AM
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329 posts Joined: May 2007 From: Navarro
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I think mine's the worst here haha.
My mileage is roughly 8km/L. For every RM 30, I can only go up 130+ km  which means its RM 0.23/km huhu.FYI, my right foot is very aggressive Always accelerate into corners one. TO make matters worse, I'm staying in Penang. |
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Mar 5 2011, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Mar 5 2011, 11:43 AM) I think mine's the worst here haha. You should have bought the manual version. Same island, similar driving style, but I can get at least 11 km / L My mileage is roughly 8km/L. For every RM 30, I can only go up 130+ km which means its RM 0.23/km huhu.FYI, my right foot is very aggressive Always accelerate into corners one. TO make matters worse, I'm staying in Penang. |
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Mar 5 2011, 02:04 PM
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Just checked my saga FL's consumption, and yeah, FC getting better as time goes. First time pump was rm42 for 220km, which was considered bad. About 20% highway drive. Now the car is like a month old and have 2k mileage clocked, RM55 can go roughly about 330km. 30% highway 70% city. Mine is AT.
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Mar 5 2011, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Mar 5 2011, 02:04 PM) Just checked my saga FL's consumption, and yeah, FC getting better as time goes. First time pump was rm42 for 220km, which was considered bad. About 20% highway drive. Now the car is like a month old and have 2k mileage clocked, RM55 can go roughly about 330km. 30% highway 70% city. Mine is AT. relax bro.. ur pistons and block are still new.. need to run approximately 1000 - 5000km and after that u will know the exactly ur car consumption..i heard proton used 10w30 at their service centre..dont used 10w30 (very thick oil) , mineral based..normally used at car > 5 years old... thats is y u feel that ur car feel heavy.. u can choose oil at sparepart and send it at SC... my sis already send many times my ENEOS oil 5w30 at proton SC at Keramat.. proton guys give permission to used ENEOS,Q8, Idemitsu and etc from outside but cant bring Shell,petronas,bardhal,honda and castrol (since rawang recycle oil cases.. but u cant used oil filter from outside.. u need to used oil filter from SC itself... thank you. |
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Mar 5 2011, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Mar 5 2011, 02:38 AM) my friend also complaint with his BLM, eventho its manual.. i can see maintain at 90km/j the RPM at 3k oredy.. maybe becoz of that? 90km/j the RPM at 3k...this is be4 warmup RPMafter warmup the RPM will drop a whole bar |
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Mar 7 2011, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 5 2011, 03:08 PM) 90km/j the RPM at 3k...this is be4 warmup RPM majority melaysian only wan good good good but never think after warmup the RPM will drop a whole bar |
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Mar 7 2011, 02:19 PM
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Been driving the new Saga for 3yrs. Mileage is 50K already. The FC is about 10km/l, it is worst FC in the market. A 5yrs old 2.0 Camry has better FC.
Since Jan 2011, spending RM700 on petrol travelling 140km everyday. This is will be last proton I buy, sick of their low FC and reliability problem (stupid power window). Selling it when loan expire in this June. |
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Mar 9 2011, 03:52 PM
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260 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: Kerteh & Banting
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bro, for long distance drive, of course higher cc car will have better fc~ even bmw 5series have better fc than kancil on long highway drive~
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Mar 9 2011, 04:37 PM
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My mum also sold off the BLM....
Managed max also 380km full tank, never hit >400km be4 even with 80km/h and aircond off most of the time |
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Mar 9 2011, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 5 2011, 03:08 PM) 90km/j the RPM at 3k...this is be4 warmup RPM manual car have fixed speed/rpm lar, how to drop lolafter warmup the RPM will drop a whole bar |
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Mar 9 2011, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(afiqms @ Mar 9 2011, 03:52 PM) bro, for long distance drive, of course higher cc car will have better fc~ even bmw 5series have better fc than kancil on long highway drive~ Thats why we been cheated all these years. For the price of a Saga, you, me and everyone can have better cars. Everyone wasting a lot of money because of inefficiency and protectionism policies  ... Some more they intend to have a hybrid Exora.... aiyoh FC so bad and still wanna dream??? |
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Jul 5 2011, 03:54 PM
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438 posts Joined: Oct 2005 From: Damansara
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250 km for rm50 .. is it ok for BLM Auto? About 80% city..
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Jul 5 2011, 05:23 PM
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Last time when P1 is ussing mitsu engine that time still ok want ..
but after campro hahahahaah that the legend fuel drinking proton car start already ... |
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Jul 5 2011, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(boom_bread @ Jul 5 2011, 03:54 PM) 250 km for rm50 .. is it ok for BLM Auto? About 80% city.. Normal. My relative gets the same FC for BLM Auto, mostly city drive.Added on July 5, 2011, 5:33 pm QUOTE(monster2020 @ Jul 5 2011, 05:23 PM) Last time when P1 is ussing mitsu engine that time still ok want .. Says who? Both my Proton dun have Campro inside...haha.but after campro hahahahaah that the legend fuel drinking proton car start already ... This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 5 2011, 05:33 PM |
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Jul 5 2011, 09:29 PM
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RM50 for about 300km, 85% city drive. rev kao kao all the time.
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Jul 5 2011, 10:11 PM
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you need to break in ur engine, do red line a few rounds on 3rd and 2nd gear
i did it to mine. |
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Jul 5 2011, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 5 2011, 05:27 PM) Says who? Both my Proton dun have Campro inside...haha. Yeah... one is a Renault engine, the other is a Mitsu Mivec engine... Oh yeah, BLM city drive FC loses out to the 2.0P Inspira.... ask Matrix... This post has been edited by Poadster: Jul 5 2011, 10:28 PM |
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Jul 5 2011, 10:34 PM
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Really hope that Potong can bankrupt faster, so that no need to subsidy the rubbish car maker although it has ranking in Car Manufacturing Factory.
The quality control is really bad... |
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Jul 5 2011, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(hong1380 @ Jul 5 2011, 10:34 PM) Really hope that Potong can bankrupt faster, so that no need to subsidy the rubbish car maker although it has ranking in Car Manufacturing Factory. worse than p2?...LOLZThe quality control is really bad... |
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Jul 5 2011, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(hong1380 @ Jul 5 2011, 10:34 PM) Really hope that Potong can bankrupt faster, so that no need to subsidy the rubbish car maker although it has ranking in Car Manufacturing Factory. Not as bad as Toyota who makes car which cannot brake and killed people. The quality control is really bad... Added on July 5, 2011, 11:16 pm QUOTE(Poadster @ Jul 5 2011, 10:27 PM) Yeah... one is a Renault engine, the other is a Mitsu Mivec engine... About same lar...9km/l....compare to my relative's BLM auto. Oh yeah, BLM city drive FC loses out to the 2.0P Inspira.... ask Matrix... This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 5 2011, 11:16 PM |
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Jul 5 2011, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jul 5 2011, 09:29 PM) RM50 for about 300km, 85% city drive. rev kao kao all the time. my fc same as you ...haha....rev to the max always....kao kao |
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Jul 6 2011, 12:27 AM
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Why everyone keep saying that the Saga FC is bad leh? I think city drive in KL is like this ma..
My Vios RM70 per tank also around 350km only in KL 100% city drive lol. And this is never Rev more than 2.75rpm |
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Jul 6 2011, 12:30 AM
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I think Saga should be equipped with CPS
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Jul 6 2011, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE(afiqms @ Mar 9 2011, 03:52 PM) bro, for long distance drive, of course higher cc car will have better fc~ even bmw 5series have better fc than kancil on long highway drive~ anyone mind to enlighten this.. |
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Jul 6 2011, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(monara @ Jul 6 2011, 03:17 AM) anyone mind to enlighten this.. becoz for the same speed, higher cc car will needs less rpm to achieve that. |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:20 AM
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my savvy rm40 200km everyday 5-6.5k rpm top 130-140km /h
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Jul 6 2011, 09:24 AM
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cheap car price but high petrol consumption.. all balance up.. why not get a betta car IMO..
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Jul 6 2011, 09:42 AM
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ts urs is still ok compare to mine..
rm100 for 350km only |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jul 6 2011, 09:24 AM) cheap car price but high petrol consumption.. all balance up.. why not get a betta car IMO.. You mean RM30+K more in terms of petrol will balance it up? All cars will get worse FC in city drive. QUOTE(boom_bread @ Jul 5 2011, 03:54 PM) 250 km for rm50 .. is it ok for BLM Auto? About 80% city.. 1) How much is your mileage?2) Do you rev hard often? Try to keep around 2 - 3K RPM 3) Do you maintain tire pressure regularly? I do mine every two weeks. Simple things like this can help. To put things in perspective, by upping the pressure by 1 psi above recommended, my FC from 10+km/l is now 11+km/l. So for your same RM50, I could go 300km. 4) Last, but not least, you could be measuring your FC wrongly. Please follow the proper procedures when calculating your FC. a) Fill full tank. b) Reset tripmeter. c) Jalan Jalan. d) Fill full tank. e) Then compare the amount you just filled vs the mileage from trip meter. The wrong calculation method can mislead you by tens of km in mileage. There is no harm in learning to be more disciplined behind the wheel. This post has been edited by +Newbie+: Jul 6 2011, 09:46 AM |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(Kreet543 @ Jul 6 2011, 09:42 AM) ts urs is still ok compare to mine.. rm100 for 350km only What do you drive!!! Estima 3.0??? |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 6 2011, 09:49 AM) What do you drive!!! Estima 3.0??? |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(yzlum @ Jul 6 2011, 12:27 AM) Why everyone keep saying that the Saga FC is bad leh? I think city drive in KL is like this ma.. Wow. 9.5km/l for city drive?? And VIOS suppose to jimat minyak...not much better than an Inspira or Saga also.My Vios RM70 per tank also around 350km only in KL 100% city drive lol. And this is never Rev more than 2.75rpm |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:51 AM
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lol. 1.3 eats RM0.20/km. what kind of shitty car is that?
even my 2.5 eats only RM0.28/km. |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Jul 6 2011, 09:51 AM) lol. 1.3 eats RM0.20/km. what kind of shitty car is that? +1even my 2.5 eats only RM0.28/km. my civic 2.0 cost me only rm0.21/km.. heavy footer somemore. |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Jul 6 2011, 09:51 AM) lol. 1.3 eats RM0.20/km. what kind of shitty car is that? What shitty car you drive? My friend Estima 3.0 eats only RM0.27/km in city drive.even my 2.5 eats only RM0.28/km. |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 6 2011, 09:55 AM) What shitty car you drive? My friend Estima 3.0 eats only RM0.27/km in city drive. malaysia boleh lar... i drove my cuz myvi b4.. and FC is horribleat times now, lets think abt global warming.. get sth environment friendly like hybrids This post has been edited by rainie1284: Jul 6 2011, 09:57 AM |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(mutt @ Jul 6 2011, 12:30 AM) I think Saga should be equipped with CPS agree with u |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jul 6 2011, 09:56 AM) malaysia boleh lar... i drove my cuz myvi b4.. and FC is horrible Auto or manual? Pls define horrible. AFAIK Manual Myvi can do 13km/l in City drive (used to own one, shitty car, but it's FC is pretty good). Auto maybe 11km/l. |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 6 2011, 09:55 AM) What shitty car you drive? My friend Estima 3.0 eats only RM0.27/km in city drive. RM0.01 difference for 500cc. RM0.08 difference for 1200cc. which one shittier? dumbfak. |
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Jul 6 2011, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jul 6 2011, 09:24 AM) cheap car price but high petrol consumption.. all balance up.. why not get a betta car IMO.. lets say, Myvi is "a betta car IMO" compared to BLM. Myvi is around RM10K more expensive than BLM.and lets say, you travel 20K KM per year. With BLM, RM0.2/km, that will mean RM4000 worth of petrol. Lets assume that Myvi can achieve RM0.15/km, that will mean RM3000 worth of petrol. Every year you are only saving RM1000 on petrol. So you need 10 years to breakeven, given that by then you still have not fed up with Myvi floaty "handling", lousy trunk space, and hot back seat. |
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Jul 6 2011, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Jul 6 2011, 09:58 AM) RM0.01 difference for 500cc. Still shittier than an Estima 3.0Cc...and how heavy is the Estima compared your whatever shitty car? Who's the butthurt now?? LOL.RM0.08 difference for 1200cc. which one shittier? dumbfak. Added on July 6, 2011, 10:02 am QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Jul 6 2011, 09:59 AM) lets say, Myvi is "a betta car IMO" compared to BLM. Myvi is around RM10K more expensive than BLM. +1000and lets say, you travel 20K KM per year. With BLM, RM0.2/km, that will mean RM4000 worth of petrol. Lets assume that Myvi can achieve RM0.15/km, that will mean RM3000 worth of petrol. Every year you are only saving RM1000 on petrol. So you need 10 years to breakeven, given that by then you still have not fed up with Myvi floaty "handling", lousy trunk space, and hot back seat. The little bit of extra fuel is offset by cheaper price, more space and better driving experience. This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 6 2011, 10:02 AM |
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Jul 6 2011, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 6 2011, 10:01 AM) Still shittier than an Estima 3.0Cc...and how heavy is the Estima compared your whatever shitty car? Who's the butthurt now?? LOL. no, no. you're butthurting earlier since i'm bashing proton car my 30k 2.5 vs 30k 1.3 blm, fair la. you insert in RM100k car, a bit dumb on your side |
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Jul 6 2011, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Jul 6 2011, 10:02 AM) no, no. you're butthurting earlier since i'm bashing proton car Cheh 2nd hand old car compare with new car... my 30k 2.5 vs 30k 1.3 blm, fair la. you insert in RM100k car, a bit dumb on your side .....who's the dumb fark now? |
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Jul 6 2011, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 6 2011, 10:04 AM) Cheh 2nd hand old car compare with new car... .....who's the dumb fark now?newer car should have more efficient engine. if it's worth the same as my old car but consume similar amount of fuel but shitting power akin to a cow, its a shitty car admit it.i have the same number of airbag, better stock suspension, similar interior with it. its a fair comparison. not like some dumbfak including estima into the game. |
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Jul 6 2011, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jul 6 2011, 09:45 AM) You mean RM30+K more in terms of petrol will balance it up? Hi All cars will get worse FC in city drive. 1) How much is your mileage? 2) Do you rev hard often? Try to keep around 2 - 3K RPM 3) Do you maintain tire pressure regularly? I do mine every two weeks. Simple things like this can help. To put things in perspective, by upping the pressure by 1 psi above recommended, my FC from 10+km/l is now 11+km/l. So for your same RM50, I could go 300km. 4) Last, but not least, you could be measuring your FC wrongly. Please follow the proper procedures when calculating your FC. a) Fill full tank. b) Reset tripmeter. c) Jalan Jalan. d) Fill full tank. e) Then compare the amount you just filled vs the mileage from trip meter. The wrong calculation method can mislead you by tens of km in mileage. There is no harm in learning to be more disciplined behind the wheel. 1) My milage around 40k+ already 2) Not really, most of the time i keep it around 2 - 3k rpm also.. 3) hmm nope. I usually check my tire pressure around 2-3 months per check Is upping the pressure by 1psi above fine to the tires? 4) Ya, i guess i measure it wrongly also, but according ur procedures, when should i know when to fill up full tank again? |
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Jul 6 2011, 10:55 PM
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For those that doubt saga BLM AUTO can archive good FC
here some proof » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *this pic is taken a few moments right after it starts blinking...so still can go further *Mind u...this is not even full tank...i didn't fill it until vomit...i only added RM40 to an available 2 bar left...RM40 is primax 95 Xtra, the left 2 bar is esso *i did rev till 3k RPM for gear change a few times within this tank and drived till 120KM/H quiet alot of time as well |
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Jul 6 2011, 11:15 PM
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wow very high FC for sych small c.c car
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Jul 6 2011, 11:37 PM
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want really fuel saving car, get small cc car like 1.0 kelisa/viva..rm10 should be able to get about 100km highway..
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Jul 6 2011, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Jul 6 2011, 11:37 PM) want really fuel saving car, get small cc car like 1.0 kelisa/viva..rm10 should be able to get about 100km highway.. Kelisa auto about rm0.12 /km even after clocking 240,000km mileage. |
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Jul 6 2011, 11:49 PM
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my persona auto about RM0.17/km...
teach u guys how to safe on petrol also la.. go get maybank2 card (amex) pump on weekends u get additional 7.5% rebate.. (5% cash back 2.5% points value) plus!!! plus. plump at any esso get their loyalty card u get additional 1.5%.. total rebate 9%!!!! meaning for every RM1.90 u pump. u safe 17sens. effective price is RM1.73. Therefore.. u get 9% additional mileage thn bfr. for me for eg. my traditional FC is RM0.171/km.. now its RM0.155/km.. what was 380km on full tank is now worth 415km per full tank. oppss now esso point redemption 950 points to rm10.. about 1%... or 3000 points for rm45. (1 point = rm1) haha u do the recalculations la.. This post has been edited by ruztynail: Jul 7 2011, 12:10 AM |
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Jul 7 2011, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 6 2011, 10:55 PM) For those that doubt saga BLM AUTO can archive good FC Bro... not to say I doubt you but really hard to believe... here some proof » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « *this pic is taken a few moments right after it starts blinking...so still can go further *Mind u...this is not even full tank...i didn't fill it until vomit...i only added RM40 to an available 2 bar left...RM40 is primax 95 Xtra, the left 2 bar is esso *i did rev till 3k RPM for gear change a few times within this tank and drived till 120KM/H quiet alot of time as well i been driving the saga for so many years never once it is more than 320km a tank. Even that my highest record I pratically had to hypermill. That time had to put neutral and glide as well and drive below 90km/h keeping rpm below 3k. Usually a tank can only 280km @ RM54. |
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Jul 7 2011, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(adamking @ Jul 7 2011, 12:03 AM) Bro... not to say I doubt you but really hard to believe... there are alot of factors on how to get 400KM per tanki been driving the saga for so many years never once it is more than 320km a tank. Even that my highest record I pratically had to hypermill. That time had to put neutral and glide as well and drive below 90km/h keeping rpm below 3k. Usually a tank can only 280km @ RM54. a few members in saga BLM/FL club already archieve 400+KM per tank if they can...i can...u can too come over to saga BLM/FL club http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1912511/+1400 |
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Jul 7 2011, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(boom_bread @ Jul 6 2011, 10:50 PM) Hi 3) You shouldn't leave the tires that long and it will affect your FC. Personally, I don't really care pumping 32 instead of 31psi. If you're really worried about that, then stick to 31psi but make sure you maintain that regularly. I notice that in that 2 weeks, it could lose up to 2 psi. 1) My milage around 40k+ already 2) Not really, most of the time i keep it around 2 - 3k rpm also.. 3) hmm nope. I usually check my tire pressure around 2-3 months per check Is upping the pressure by 1psi above fine to the tires? 4) Ya, i guess i measure it wrongly also, but according ur procedures, when should i know when to fill up full tank again? 4) Any time you like man. Just drive like normal and pump like normal, but make sure you stick to the procedures when refilling. |
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Jul 7 2011, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 6 2011, 09:51 AM) Wow. 9.5km/l for city drive?? And VIOS suppose to jimat minyak...not much better than an Inspira or Saga also. Ya lo.. That's why i dunno why everyone saying the Saga High FC. Cause i think all cars in kl city drive sure very bad FC de ma.. And my Vios is just 4 months old, clocked 5xxx km only. Tire pressure pumped to the recommended pressure every month. I'm very light footed, RPM never more than 3k at all. Mostly 2.5k then change gear d. Here's my Average Fuel Consumption. 9.5 km/l in the KL city. 11.5 km/l in Penang City. 18.5 km/l on highway from Penang to KL. So i guess the place affects more than other factors. This post has been edited by yzlum: Jul 7 2011, 01:29 AM |
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Jul 7 2011, 04:39 AM
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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Jul 6 2011, 11:49 PM) my persona auto about RM0.17/km... really can get 7.5%? I own Maybank2 card but didn't aware of that and I pump ESSO also! teach u guys how to safe on petrol also la.. go get maybank2 card (amex) pump on weekends u get additional 7.5% rebate.. (5% cash back 2.5% points value) plus!!! plus. plump at any esso get their loyalty card u get additional 1.5%.. total rebate 9%!!!! meaning for every RM1.90 u pump. u safe 17sens. effective price is RM1.73. Therefore.. u get 9% additional mileage thn bfr. for me for eg. my traditional FC is RM0.171/km.. now its RM0.155/km.. what was 380km on full tank is now worth 415km per full tank. oppss now esso point redemption 950 points to rm10.. about 1%... or 3000 points for rm45. (1 point = rm1) haha u do the recalculations la.. anyway thanks for the heads up |
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Jul 7 2011, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Jul 6 2011, 11:49 PM) my persona auto about RM0.17/km... Only works for Esso is it? Coz Petronas and BHP don't accept AMEX.teach u guys how to safe on petrol also la.. go get maybank2 card (amex) pump on weekends u get additional 7.5% rebate.. (5% cash back 2.5% points value) plus!!! plus. plump at any esso get their loyalty card u get additional 1.5%.. total rebate 9%!!!! meaning for every RM1.90 u pump. u safe 17sens. effective price is RM1.73. Therefore.. u get 9% additional mileage thn bfr. for me for eg. my traditional FC is RM0.171/km.. now its RM0.155/km.. what was 380km on full tank is now worth 415km per full tank. oppss now esso point redemption 950 points to rm10.. about 1%... or 3000 points for rm45. (1 point = rm1) haha u do the recalculations la.. |
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Jul 7 2011, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jul 7 2011, 08:16 AM) Only works for Esso is it? Coz Petronas and BHP don't accept AMEX. yupz very rare u can find petronas shell bhp accepting amex. cause merchants fees are higher abit for amex. but there are afew around.. jus need to spot thm. most esso's i know accepts amex. plus the complimentary smiles points is a no brainer it will be esso.. jus not too sure about the fuel tho.. petronas is the best. not sure where esso stands. but definitely better thn shell!!! |
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Jul 7 2011, 05:39 PM
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Generally, SAGA BLM does have high FC.
Generally, VIOS does have lower FC than SAGA BLM. There are special cases by we don't talk about that. In the end, you want to save FC drive with a conservative right foot. If not don't complain about FC when your right foot is a demon. There are no shortcut tips or any product that can save your FC as much as your right foot. This post has been edited by abubin: Jul 7 2011, 05:40 PM |
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Aug 16 2011, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 7 2011, 06:39 PM) Generally, SAGA BLM does have high FC. Yeah~~~ agreed...Actually i feel that saga is a not bad d car....cos i try my saga rm 50 can until 370++ km, on 2.5k rbm-3k rbm.. Saga normally eat oil normally is right leg gatal....Generally, VIOS does have lower FC than SAGA BLM. There are special cases by we don't talk about that. In the end, you want to save FC drive with a conservative right foot. If not don't complain about FC when your right foot is a demon. There are no shortcut tips or any product that can save your FC as much as your right foot. and 1 more tips...when you pump air...your pump your tire on 40....then you car will feel batter....more power...and most important is saving fuel.... But saga reli quit powerfull car for 1.3 cheap car...=) This post has been edited by jlds1988: Aug 16 2011, 02:21 PM |
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Aug 16 2011, 02:31 PM
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or buy saga-best-rival la.
in kl city, anytime 13++ km/l, highway kl-pg anytime 16km/l ( 120km/h to 130km/h) lagi best hahaha. |
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Aug 16 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(yzlum @ Jul 7 2011, 01:23 AM) Ya lo.. That's why i dunno why everyone saying the Saga High FC. i always travel highway... but its KL federal highway Cause i think all cars in kl city drive sure very bad FC de ma.. And my Vios is just 4 months old, clocked 5xxx km only. Tire pressure pumped to the recommended pressure every month. I'm very light footed, RPM never more than 3k at all. Mostly 2.5k then change gear d. Here's my Average Fuel Consumption. 9.5 km/l in the KL city. 11.5 km/l in Penang City. 18.5 km/l on highway from Penang to KL. So i guess the place affects more than other factors. very constant can get 13.5km/l my dugong is 5000+km after 1 month, heavy traveller for highway... i recommend don't go more than 120km/h... memang save fuel... 120km for first bar but i cannot tahan so slow, so go 130-140km/h last month when driving to Singapore makan minyak also to TS... i think your FC quite ok lar, cos i overheard a collague say his 3008 also around 20cents/km This post has been edited by kenji1903: Aug 16 2011, 03:06 PM |
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Aug 16 2011, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(yzlum @ Jul 7 2011, 01:23 AM) Ya lo.. That's why i dunno why everyone saying the Saga High FC. Cause i think all cars in kl city drive sure very bad FC de ma.. And my Vios is just 4 months old, clocked 5xxx km only. Tire pressure pumped to the recommended pressure every month. I'm very light footed, RPM never more than 3k at all. Mostly 2.5k then change gear d. Here's my Average Fuel Consumption. 9.5 km/l in the KL city. 11.5 km/l in Penang City. 18.5 km/l on highway from Penang to KL. So i guess the place affects more than other factors. need honest review like this, sometime i dont know where those basher or simple brain come from. if u argue with them end up wasting your time and energy. for me i think location/road condition>right leg>driving style. comfort/space>fc. buy car just get what you really like, i understand if worried about spare parts but fc.. difference rm0.05/km does it really matter? lets say rm0.05x1000km in a month, its only rm50. |
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Aug 16 2011, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Aug 16 2011, 03:25 PM) need honest review like this, sometime i dont know where those basher or simple brain come from. if u argue with them end up wasting your time and energy. for me i think location/road condition>right leg>driving style. comfort/space>fc. buy car just get what you really like, i understand if worried about spare parts but fc.. difference rm0.05/km does it really matter? lets say rm0.05x1000km in a month, its only rm50. ...when you're stuck in jam in KL/PJ, your golden right leg is pretty useless....still sucks fuel no matter what. But i figure cars like Savvy, VIVA, Myvi etc, do give lower FC even in jam and the difference between city and highway is not that high. Maybe around 20%-30%. Some cars like my Inspira...difference can be up to 90% to 100%!!!! That is why comparing FC of one guy to another is pretty futile task.....one guy can drive same car in city jam everyday, another guy drive same car on highway or another part of the city which is less jam....simply cannot do comparison like that. A good example is yzlum VIOS difference is almost 100% between KL city drive and Highway drive! |
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Aug 16 2011, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 16 2011, 03:32 PM) Absolutely. People keep yapping about right leg... Right leg makes a lot of difference when in traffic jam....when you're stuck in jam in KL/PJ, your golden right leg is pretty useless....still sucks fuel no matter what. But i figure cars like Savvy, VIVA, Myvi etc, do give lower FC even in jam and the difference between city and highway is not that high. Maybe around 20%-30%. Some cars like my Inspira...difference can be up to 90% to 100%!!!! That is why comparing FC of one guy to another is pretty futile task.....one guy can drive same car in city jam everyday, another guy drive same car on highway or another part of the city which is less jam....simply cannot do comparison like that. A good example is yzlum VIOS difference is almost 100% between KL city drive and Highway drive! You see a lot of people tail gate cars when jam situation cause scared people will jab in. This actually eat the most petrol. If you just let your car accelerate and don't step too much on the paddle then you can save a lot more fuel. |
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Aug 16 2011, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 16 2011, 03:32 PM) Absolutely. People keep yapping about right leg... this is why more ppl tends to buy perodua car ...when you're stuck in jam in KL/PJ, your golden right leg is pretty useless....still sucks fuel no matter what. But i figure cars like Savvy, VIVA, Myvi etc, do give lower FC even in jam and the difference between city and highway is not that high. Maybe around 20%-30%. Some cars like my Inspira...difference can be up to 90% to 100%!!!! That is why comparing FC of one guy to another is pretty futile task.....one guy can drive same car in city jam everyday, another guy drive same car on highway or another part of the city which is less jam....simply cannot do comparison like that. A good example is yzlum VIOS difference is almost 100% between KL city drive and Highway drive! no offensive perodua car r more designed for city drive , small hatchback , easy to park currently i own old saga , fc is arnd 7km/l , manual summore.... , i wanted to change a myvi soon due to old + high fc |
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Aug 31 2011, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Aug 16 2011, 08:14 PM) this is why more ppl tends to buy perodua car yalono offensive perodua car r more designed for city drive , small hatchback , easy to park currently i own old saga , fc is arnd 7km/l , manual summore.... , i wanted to change a myvi soon due to old + high fc i feel once SAGA started engine without pressing pedal oledi suck fuel kaokao This post has been edited by sg999: Aug 31 2011, 09:54 PM |
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Aug 31 2011, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 16 2011, 03:32 PM) Absolutely. People keep yapping about right leg... I think the number of times you turn on and off your engine does affect FC a lot. Coz I usually travel very short distances, like 10km a day. I see that my FC is very much higher than anyone's car. Driving Savvy btw and I only got 12-13km/l in city no matter how hard I try to save on petrol. Best I got from city drive is 14km/l and I almost lost my mind by driving soooooo conservatively. Still think it's mostly coz of turn on and off the engine....when you're stuck in jam in KL/PJ, your golden right leg is pretty useless....still sucks fuel no matter what. But i figure cars like Savvy, VIVA, Myvi etc, do give lower FC even in jam and the difference between city and highway is not that high. Maybe around 20%-30%. Some cars like my Inspira...difference can be up to 90% to 100%!!!! That is why comparing FC of one guy to another is pretty futile task.....one guy can drive same car in city jam everyday, another guy drive same car on highway or another part of the city which is less jam....simply cannot do comparison like that. A good example is yzlum VIOS difference is almost 100% between KL city drive and Highway drive! As for highway, I drove a constant 120km/h (4k RPM) and got almost 17km/l. Imagine if I drove 70-90km/h (2.5k-3k RPM) all the way, think can get a much better reading! haha |
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Aug 31 2011, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 16 2011, 03:32 PM) Absolutely. People keep yapping about right leg... beg to differ ... use to drive a Viva 1.0 auto...when you're stuck in jam in KL/PJ, your golden right leg is pretty useless....still sucks fuel no matter what. But i figure cars like Savvy, VIVA, Myvi etc, do give lower FC even in jam and the difference between city and highway is not that high. Maybe around 20%-30%. Some cars like my Inspira...difference can be up to 90% to 100%!!!! That is why comparing FC of one guy to another is pretty futile task.....one guy can drive same car in city jam everyday, another guy drive same car on highway or another part of the city which is less jam....simply cannot do comparison like that. A good example is yzlum VIOS difference is almost 100% between KL city drive and Highway drive! if i drive solely in city, my RM50 tank can get me 300km ... i get stuck average 1 hour a day and sometimes the trip back i get stuck like 1.5 - 2 hours ... distance is bout 20km to the office (ampang - bandar utam via kg pandan then tun razak) thats about 17 cents per km, but then when i did hw, i can hit 400km + when the light comes up now that i drive a city, the fc is about the same in fact lower ... a full tank of RM60-65 can get me 400km, thats about 15cents per km, city 30% + hw 70% |
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Aug 31 2011, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Aug 31 2011, 11:42 PM) I think the number of times you turn on and off your engine does affect FC a lot. Coz I usually travel very short distances, like 10km a day. I see that my FC is very much higher than anyone's car. Driving Savvy btw and I only got 12-13km/l in city no matter how hard I try to save on petrol. Best I got from city drive is 14km/l and I almost lost my mind by driving soooooo conservatively. Still think it's mostly coz of turn on and off the engine. savvy fc is much better than saga blmAs for highway, I drove a constant 120km/h (4k RPM) and got almost 17km/l. Imagine if I drove 70-90km/h (2.5k-3k RPM) all the way, think can get a much better reading! haha Added on August 31, 2011, 11:46 pm QUOTE(Thinker* @ Sep 1 2011, 12:43 AM) Saga BLM is definately horrible in jams. If u are constantly stuck in jams, the FC can even be as bad as 1L/7km. Really a fail car. Its like the engineers never thought about traffic jams at all. yesi agree with u once campro engine started already pandai suck fuel than other engine This post has been edited by sg999: Aug 31 2011, 11:46 PM |
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Sep 1 2011, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(Thinker* @ Sep 1 2011, 12:58 AM) Yes, and if we pair this with Petronas engine oil...My God, the oil consumption is worst. Saga BLM is only good on no jam highways. Yes, this one I agree. Can go until 300km-350km evenSaga BLM is only good on no jam highways. Yes, this one I agree. Can go until 300km-350km even. But thats all to it. Once in jam...... if u drive myvi, the milleage confirm more than 350km |
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Sep 1 2011, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Aug 31 2011, 10:59 PM) beg to differ ... use to drive a Viva 1.0 auto Differ? I think your case just reinforced my theory...you get about 13% difference between city and highway(70%). If you do 100% highway vs 100% city, i am quiet sure you can get 20% difference....if i drive solely in city, my RM50 tank can get me 300km ... i get stuck average 1 hour a day and sometimes the trip back i get stuck like 1.5 - 2 hours ... distance is bout 20km to the office (ampang - bandar utam via kg pandan then tun razak) thats about 17 cents per km, but then when i did hw, i can hit 400km + when the light comes up now that i drive a city, the fc is about the same in fact lower ... a full tank of RM60-65 can get me 400km, thats about 15cents per km, city 30% + hw 70% Small cars like Myvi/Savvy etc, difference between 20% to 30% is quiet realistic. While CAMPRO and other higher cc cars will see much higher difference up to 80%-100% between city and highway drive. Flamingfox: your situation is same like mine...i drove very short distance everyday...usually < 10km if only go to work and go home...FC higher than most Inspira...haha. And yes, my Savvy also only get about 13km/l in city no matter how i drive. Best i did on highway was 19km/l....varies from 90km/h to 120km/h. Added on September 1, 2011, 2:42 pm QUOTE(Thinker* @ Aug 31 2011, 11:58 PM) Yes, and if we pair this with Petronas engine oil...My God, the oil consumption is worst. I don't see facts that Pertronas oil is bad in FC...just the same only, all depends on traffic condition. I've done tests on Myvi, Savvy, Inspira...different brands hardly any difference....real difference comes depends traffic condition. All petrol claims extra mileage...IMO, all also BS.... Saga BLM is only good on no jam highways. Yes, this one I agree. Can go until 300km-350km even. But thats all to it. Once in jam...... This post has been edited by Matrix: Sep 1 2011, 02:42 PM |
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Sep 1 2011, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 1 2011, 03:38 PM) Differ? I think your case just reinforced my theory...you get about 13% difference between city and highway(70%). If you do 100% highway vs 100% city, i am quiet sure you can get 20% difference.... savvy have much fuel save than saga Small cars like Myvi/Savvy etc, difference between 20% to 30% is quiet realistic. While CAMPRO and other higher cc cars will see much higher difference up to 80%-100% between city and highway drive. Flamingfox: your situation is same like mine...i drove very short distance everyday...usually < 10km if only go to work and go home...FC higher than most Inspira...haha. And yes, my Savvy also only get about 13km/l in city no matter how i drive. Best i did on highway was 19km/l....varies from 90km/h to 120km/h. saga constant 90kmh also need 16km/L |
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Sep 1 2011, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 1 2011, 02:38 PM) Differ? I think your case just reinforced my theory...you get about 13% difference between city and highway(70%). If you do 100% highway vs 100% city, i am quiet sure you can get 20% difference.... Although we don't get good kms/l, we don't refuel as often as others =PSmall cars like Myvi/Savvy etc, difference between 20% to 30% is quiet realistic. While CAMPRO and other higher cc cars will see much higher difference up to 80%-100% between city and highway drive. Flamingfox: your situation is same like mine...i drove very short distance everyday...usually < 10km if only go to work and go home...FC higher than most Inspira...haha. And yes, my Savvy also only get about 13km/l in city no matter how i drive. Best i did on highway was 19km/l....varies from 90km/h to 120km/h. Added on September 1, 2011, 2:42 pm I don't see facts that Pertronas oil is bad in FC...just the same only, all depends on traffic condition. I've done tests on Myvi, Savvy, Inspira...different brands hardly any difference....real difference comes depends traffic condition. All petrol claims extra mileage...IMO, all also BS.... |
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Sep 1 2011, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Sep 1 2011, 02:44 PM) Although we don't get good kms/l, we don't refuel as often as others =P True...my Inspira only refuel every 2 weeks.......so no big deal lar...short distance, higher FC, but no need to pay toll, and save lots of time on the road......one month refuel 2.5 times full tank on average... |
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Sep 11 2011, 02:19 PM
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after 3 years of city and light driving, my BLM now eats rm50 for only 175km. i feel like driving a huge camry, sigh .... anyone doing worse than mine?
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Sep 11 2011, 02:59 PM
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the new FLX(CVT)...from the start are getting 357KM per tank(RM57)
and this is be4 1000km service |
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Sep 11 2011, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 11 2011, 02:19 PM) after 3 years of city and light driving, my BLM now eats rm50 for only 175km. i feel like driving a huge camry, sigh .... anyone doing worse than mine? That's really bad, my KE70 with 4AGE does 8.55km/l 100% city without much traffic lights (60km/h speed). Yours are 5.85km/l. My sister told me her 2.0G Camry got around 12-13km/l and 50% highway 50% city. |
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Sep 11 2011, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 11 2011, 02:19 PM) after 3 years of city and light driving, my BLM now eats rm50 for only 175km. i feel like driving a huge camry, sigh .... anyone doing worse than mine? something wrong with your car. iafm??. mine 08 auto gets 260km per rm50 city.. your fc same like my nazaria... |
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Sep 11 2011, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Sep 11 2011, 03:39 PM) something wrong with your car. iafm??. mine 08 auto gets 260km per rm50 city.. your fc same like my nazaria... I think maybe he stucked in traffic jam idling for a long time for every journey. |
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Sep 11 2011, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Sep 11 2011, 03:39 PM) something wrong with your car. iafm??. mine 08 auto gets 260km per rm50 city.. your fc same like my nazaria... Errr, i got my iafm changed after 1st month of getting the car. so i think its not that issue.Added on September 11, 2011, 11:14 pm QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 11 2011, 03:41 PM) I think maybe he stucked in traffic jam idling for a long time for every journey. Yes, on the way back after work, usually there is about 5 to 8 minutes of idling + snail paced driving. but not too much. still the fc is terrible to say the least. now thinking of changing my car! Added on September 11, 2011, 11:18 pm[quote=cyberkid,Nov 6 2009, 06:30 PM] My newly bought Saga 1.3 AT Fuel Consumption (FC) is really terrible. I pumped in RM48, manage to run up to 230km only. I become so frustrated on the FC and poor afterall I have to pay for the loan somemore... My new BLM auto (2008 Oct) first 1000km fc at rm50 for 220km (before rise in price). then, after the first service, it drops to 200km. now its about 175 km per RM50 of Shell. OMG, i bought this BLM because Proton advertises in newspapers that BLM won awards in 'most fuel efficient' category...but i forgot what 'category' !!! This post has been edited by mikehwy: Sep 11 2011, 11:18 PM |
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Oct 21 2011, 04:47 AM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 11 2011, 02:19 PM) after 3 years of city and light driving, my BLM now eats rm50 for only 175km. i feel like driving a huge camry, sigh .... anyone doing worse than mine? weird bro, my 1.6 blm gets almost 300km for every rm50 ron95... |
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Oct 21 2011, 07:28 AM
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maybe saga runs optimum using RON97...perhaps Proton didn't say it.
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Oct 21 2011, 09:00 AM
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My new BLM auto (2008 Oct) first 1000km fc at rm50 for 220km (before rise in price). then, after the first service, it drops to 200km. now its about 175 km per RM50 of Shell. OMG, i bought this BLM because Proton advertises in newspapers that BLM won awards in 'most fuel efficient' category...but i forgot what 'category' !!!
[/quote] Shell 95 very sluggish n no power. try others eg.esso/bhp use thinner oil. 10/30w or 10/40w check tyre pressure 32lb This post has been edited by goohtj: Oct 21 2011, 09:02 AM |
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Oct 21 2011, 09:16 AM
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I would like to know about FLX 1.3A full tank can be runs how many KM per tank in City only.
Rm50 can runs how many KM is enought for me. I'm planing to trade with my Kenari over to FLX CVT. Thanks. This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 21 2011, 09:17 AM |
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Oct 21 2011, 10:23 AM
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Off topics.
im owner of 1.3 gen2, same engine that using in BLM 1.3 gen2 is my 1st car, but its really dissapoint me.. FC getting higher than my friends 1.3 wira.. i wonder how can proton produce such a car and put a 1.3 underpower engine to carry these gen2 body.. after struggling for 5 years and its end up i sold my car...with no value and i need to topup summore no more proton after this.. |
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Oct 21 2011, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Oct 21 2011, 04:47 AM) weird bro, my 1.6 blm gets almost 300km for every rm50 ron95... It's not just you, bro ... My 1.3 BLM Auto gives me anywhere between 10++ to 11++km/l. That's about the same FC as yours. Maybe something went wrong with that fella's car? Or he sit idling a lot in traffic jam? |
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Oct 21 2011, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 21 2011, 09:16 AM) I would like to know about FLX 1.3A full tank can be runs how many KM per tank in City only. Be prepared if i am not mistaken Kenari 1 full tank can go 420km but for SAGA BLM max 320km that's for me.Rm50 can runs how many KM is enought for me. I'm planing to trade with my Kenari over to FLX CVT. Thanks. QUOTE(beyondpain79 @ Oct 21 2011, 10:23 AM) Off topics. i sold my BLM the 2nd year i am driving it. now 1 year driving my savvy im pretty happy with it. im owner of 1.3 gen2, same engine that using in BLM 1.3 gen2 is my 1st car, but its really dissapoint me.. FC getting higher than my friends 1.3 wira.. i wonder how can proton produce such a car and put a 1.3 underpower engine to carry these gen2 body.. after struggling for 5 years and its end up i sold my car...with no value and i need to topup summore no more proton after this.. However thinking of Honda CRZ atm. Might sell this baby off for that gorgeous one. |
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Oct 21 2011, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 21 2011, 10:40 AM) Be prepared if i am not mistaken Kenari 1 full tank can go 420km but for SAGA BLM max 320km that's for me. Your Savvy one year oready? It seems like only yesterday you inquire about buying Savvy wor...LOL.i sold my BLM the 2nd year i am driving it. now 1 year driving my savvy im pretty happy with it. However thinking of Honda CRZ atm. Might sell this baby off for that gorgeous one.Added on October 21, 2011, 10:49 am QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 21 2011, 10:36 AM) It's not just you, bro ... Inspira 2.0 idling in traffic 100% city jam also can get 8km/l....i think something wrong with that guy's car....maybe he need to bring back SC and complain kaw-kaw. Maybe ECU map screw up???My 1.3 BLM Auto gives me anywhere between 10++ to 11++km/l. That's about the same FC as yours. Maybe something went wrong with that fella's car? Or he sit idling a lot in traffic jam? This post has been edited by Matrix: Oct 21 2011, 10:49 AM |
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Oct 21 2011, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 21 2011, 10:46 AM) Your Savvy one year oready? It seems like only yesterday you inquire about buying Savvy wor...LOL. Haha yeah man. Time fly so fast. 10 months liao driving the Savvy. Had been a great companion all this while. hahaha |
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Oct 21 2011, 04:13 PM
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[quote=goohtj,Oct 21 2011, 09:00 AM]
My new BLM auto (2008 Oct) first 1000km fc at rm50 for 220km (before rise in price). then, after the first service, it drops to 200km. now its about 175 km per RM50 of Shell. OMG, i bought this BLM because Proton advertises in newspapers that BLM won awards in 'most fuel efficient' category...but i forgot what 'category' !!! [/quote] Shell 95 very sluggish n no power. try others eg.esso/bhp use thinner oil. 10/30w or 10/40w check tyre pressure 32lb [/quote] maybe, many ppl said shell gives more mileage i seldom use shell, most of time petronas, caltex or esso but the petronas primax 95, gives me an impression that its actually saves fuel better than other like esso or caltex..maybe just my feeling |
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Dec 13 2022, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Nov 6 2009, 06:39 PM) My full tank RM90 can get me 650km+ town driving worrr... my saga BLM full tank petrol also can go 650km. |
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Dec 13 2022, 07:24 PM
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FC will improve after a few times service....
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Dec 13 2022, 08:28 PM
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technology really change fc perception lor..old na where got so fuel saving. I know as I own proton in one of my fleet. even jap sedan which is more powerful can be as fuel efficient.
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Dec 14 2022, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Dec 13 2022, 07:22 PM) my saga BLM full tank petrol also can go 650km. impossible for more than 50% city.. unless this is 100% highway 80~110kmh constant, maybe.. saga BLM fuel tank is 40L right? 650/40 = 16km/1L woor.. |
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Dec 14 2022, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(babisotong @ Dec 14 2022, 07:31 AM) impossible for more than 50% city.. unless this is 100% highway 80~110kmh constant, maybe.. i use ngv normallysaga BLM fuel tank is 40L right? 650/40 = 16km/1L woor.. |
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 Dec 14 2022, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Dec 14 2022, 08:40 AM) i use ngv normally haiya, that's different case already. |
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