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 LYN Official Toyota Vios Owners Thread!, Thread for all LYN's Toyota Vios owners!

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michael9413
post Mar 5 2010, 08:51 AM

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bros i'm not an expert but a fussy tire user... with a few cars on 15"... but i saw a lot of stupid ppl that buy bigger rims and get cheapo tires... no $$$ don change big rims... make sure u get a proper tire coz that is all the contact of the car at to the road...

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post Mar 5 2010, 10:47 AM

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nah can go for any made... but not any model is good... even Bridgestone is not good on entry level, same as GY... so do not get cheated by the name...
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post Mar 5 2010, 11:19 AM

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haha well that is the culture of Ah Beng mah... big tire nicer... and more stable... but they ignore the tire quality...
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post Mar 5 2010, 02:07 PM

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A drive is a no really good la...
for me at least Falken 912... or Hankook V12... RM190 for A drive i better choose those 2 which is at least 1.5 times (912) better than A Drive or V12 which is much much better... both around RM200... the bang of buck is there...
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post Mar 5 2010, 04:39 PM

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eh.. u too the 195/55 R15 size isn't it???
still thought of Michelin??? nvm la... use off this one i intro some frens to u to poison u into UHP (Ultra High Performance) 15" tires...

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all i heard is PS3 will be out around March i duno where did he get the stock...
mind to PM me the place??? if is in Klang valley maybe i can visit his as i need to change my SEG also...

Basic range for some brand....

Michelin - PS2 is Max Performance Category, PP2 is Ultra High Performance, Primacy LC is Luxury Comfort, XM1 is Entry Level... (XM1 not available in 195/55 R15)

Yokohama - Advan AD08 Max Performance Category, S Drive Ultra High Performance, ES501/C Drive is Luxury Comfort, A drive is Entry Level... (all available for 195/55 R15)

Toyo - R888 is Max Performance Category, T1R is Ultra High Performance, DRB is Ultra High Performance (but it's performance is slightly lower than T1R, Teo Plus is Entry Level... (Teo Plus not available in 195/55 R15)

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??? slower it should be sharper... i think the side wall plays a part... Mcryan, if the so call 55 series is very bumpy all Vios G and S spec (185/60) is bumpy also the sidewallheight is similar with 195/55 and furthermore old gen Vios uses 185/55 which is lower in sidewall height so it will be more bumpy... haha i think u need to test out in my ride or others to know that urs actually is comfort already
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well bro it is sometimes just u feel only... try to get Primacy LC as i told you Yokohama tires is a lil harder...

well u can try to change back to stock Potenza lo... as 185/60 R15 not much of choice available lo... after conversion is 195/55 R15... or stick back to ur 14" rims....
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post Mar 10 2010, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Klesk @ Mar 9 2010, 04:27 PM)
Does anyone know the Vios 07 wiper size?
some say it's 14"-20", or 14"-22".
so which is which??? please help!!! thanks
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measure ur old one la... go to SC tell them u wanna change rubber... only around RM30...
no need to buy others so call silicon rubber as Ori rubber last me about 1 yr... even everyday under the sun...

QUOTE(priyangaf @ Mar 9 2010, 10:29 PM)
Before doing anything, I am thinking to change the tires to have a more grip ,comfortable ride and a sportier look, I think I wl go for PP2 tires. size 195/55/r15, any comments ?

secondly if I decide to keep the factory fitted tires, whats wrong with them ? the tire size is 185/60/ r15
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well as i have told a lot of ppl... BS tires is not that good in the middle range as it is good for daily drives only and they are not that quiet also... if you wan comfort ride + sporty look PP2 is a wrong choice, coz PS3 is out and it has 195/55 R15 and it cost around PP2 only... it should be better in performance compare to PP2... i haven't buy it yet but will try very soon...
ur budget to change i assume is around RM250 as PP2 price is lower than that... so u have a few choice Michelin PP2 (which i don recommend coz PS3 is out), Michelin PS3, Toyo DRB, Toyo T1R, Hankook V12 and Falken 912... others like BS RE001, Yokohama S Drive is ok but the price of these tires will be around RM250~280...
if you mention Grip, Comfort and Sporty then V12 is ur choice... but it is not that quiet though cos it is Directional tires...


Added on March 10, 2010, 9:18 am
QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 10 2010, 12:21 AM)
Cannot be. I try on highway before....my speed was 140-160 most of the time, only 110 at times when I feel got speed trap, still can get about 500km with 1 bar left to go. If drive pure city and short distance (5-6km), worst still can get 400km with a bar to go
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well if you right foot is a good boy u can reach 600km for 1 full tank... smile.gif more on highway 80% and 20%city drive is smooth... did that only once since i'm strolling from PG to KL i refill at Juru b4 the tol it only use around 3 bar only... 3 days in KL then left around 3 bars when i go back i pump full again i drop by my hometown Ipoh 1 nite then go back to penang without any refill left around 4 bars if not mistaken...

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Arrow tires in Layman terms??? look at the photos by the provided link...

http://caraudiomag.com/pictures-778
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wow... err... next time go to SC ask them for full set if not mistaken around RM60... then every time they change the rubber only... my mum told me last time around RM30 sometimes promo until Rm20 also got... depends on period... my family's Avanza and Vios uses Ori Wiper frame and rubber also coz it is cheap to change rubber only...
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then 195/55 R15 is better in comfort... 55 means 55% of ur tire width... where 50 only 50%...
don listen to those ppl say 195/50 R15 should be the size... if you really really want comfort try out Falken 912... the side wall is softer than V12... but handling is not tat good already lo...
for me V12 is soft already and it is a all rounder, more softer i complain the high speed handling like hell...

let me try out the new PS3 b4 telling u guys whether a Vios 1st Gen will have harsh ride or not (my car all stock) except tire where i change to better ones... if my ride is ok then Dugong should be nice also...
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post Mar 11 2010, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Mar 10 2010, 06:29 PM)
How come 55 mean the width not the height, 195 should be the width n 15 should be the radius. 195x55x15 mean width/height/radius. rclxub.gif
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195 tire thread width... 55 is the tire side wall ratio to the width means 107.25mm and R15 is the Rim diameter measurement... the total diameter of the wheel is 381mm (Rim size 15x25.4mm) + 107.25 = 488.25... smile.gif
it is about the similar size of the G & TRD Spec Original tire size 185/60 R15 (492mm)... but you have wider contact to the road and also more choices of tires vs that odd size...


QUOTE(alan75 @ Mar 10 2010, 08:28 PM)
195/50/15 PS3 cost RM245 per dounut in Penang.
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it is a lil expensive... try to nego until like RM220/pc for 4 tires...

QUOTE(priyangaf @ Mar 11 2010, 07:28 AM)
Toyo DRB or Hankook V12 or PS3 ?
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well you have a good question here... DRB is not as good as V12 and PS3 should better between those... as PS3 is new i has not test it... going to be soon as PS3 is above PP2 where i used b4 so i rank PP2 same with V12 so PS3 should be the best among the 3...
Toyo DRB is more into entry level for Ultra High Performance, where V12 is some what in the middle and PS3 is more towards the higher side...
Comfort V12 and DRB can give you a lil more on that... PS3 looks ok also... the safe bet is DRB or V12 even T1R also ok...
what u need is the key of which tire u should choose... Comfort? Handling? Noise?
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V12 la... tat one is with fierce directional thread... PS3 is normal thread but do not look down on it... i'll get it soon let you know if it is really good... a lot of ppl laugh haha the tire not look nice... but i can tell u PP2 and PS2 also is asymmetric tires which beats a lot of their rival without much sweat...

@ bro Travis
arrange for Vios TT... ???

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V12 is better than S Drive but PS3 is the best of all haha...

V12 looks fierce with nice comfort and grips, S Drive tends to be a bit less grippy during the wet as i heard but PS so far impress most of the ppl...

read the review from a extreme tire user... (Copy from AW Forum - Tire section PS3 thread)
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post Mar 15 2010, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(priyangaf @ Mar 15 2010, 02:18 PM)
michael9413, I jz heard on new vios G specĀ  15-inch alloy wheel toyota design with a new tire size 185/60R15.
so as per my requirement ...to have a sporty look and more grip and comfortable, which size you recommend to upgrade for? is it 195/55 R15 still the best choice ?

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yes... well New vios (Dugong) is fitted with this size wat 185/60 R15... but still 195/55 R15 is the best choice..

this Saturday for those who wanna change tire maybe we can meet up and go 1 time so i can also meet up with u... plan to change my Vios tire to PS3 this saturday... Anyone??? PM me if you wanna meet up...

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haha... duno yet... mostly in klang kua... but that around 11am TT also can...
coz i go there early...
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no problem my fren... can meet up at 1 place then go together also ok... smile.gif
might take a whole morning to change to tires... so u need to have time...
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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Mar 15 2010, 04:32 PM)
michael9413,
wah so many owner is looking forward to install PS3? since so many ppl say PS3 tire is good tire if to compare to kumho KU36 & AD08 for dry grip are PS3 reach that grip level?
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well PS2 can say is Mex Performance while AD08 is Extreme so does KU36... but for extreme tires the wet is not that good... PS2 is good in wet but PS3 is about 30% more better than PS2 in wet... thats y i wanna try it as it smell so good when you say it is good in wet...

compare to Ultra High Performance tire like S Drive, PP2, V12, T1R, RE001... PP2 stand out on the wet performance, while others cannot get really close to it... V12 is quite but not that close as PP2 i can drive 140km/h in NSE while raining like heavily but V12 i felt some small hydroplaning effect already at 110km/h

i emphasize more on wet driving coz that is very dangerous, it is no use when you drive fast at dry and slow during wet... second is the comfort and noise... then again if you choose directional tires it tends to make more noise... just like the V12 (i just swap over to my SEG)... so i'm eager to try non-directional tires that give you ample of grip and perform well in wet...

QUOTE(kazami @ Mar 15 2010, 04:39 PM)
michael9413
which part of klang?
jalan kapar? which shop name?
i might need to take the car for balancing and alignment check after running on 8k km on my last service
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I'm going to Hin Leong at Jln Kapar mostly... might go to another shop in PJ Seapark also...
haven decide yet...

bro for Alignment and Balancing u look for bro CheeAnn... his side is famous for that... contact him for booking if not need to wait oh... my fren waited for about 3 hours just for rotation, balancing and alignment...

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QUOTE(kazami @ Mar 15 2010, 05:57 PM)
few questions in my mind...
why u guys keep on saying on wet? y no body emphasis on dry condition? eg. during cornering speed

my vios year 08 feb hitting 30k km soon
tires still stock..
was thinking PP2... wat bout the noise level?
anyway, it wasnt really my car... but im taking care of the maintainance and everything... my sis just drive it around..

bro cheeann too far... i do take my car let him do change parts...
beside hin leong is a shop called hock li... i got 1 far far away relative work inside there.. but only in charge on handling parts... tires part, i dont think he can get cheap for it
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oh icic... well dry traction not that worry about it as it give you ample of grip when u buy Ultra High Performance tire but not all UHP tire give you the wet grip and hydroplaning resistance that u hope for... PP2 is one of the best hydroplaning resistance tire un UHP category...
noise level for Asymmetric and also Symmetrical tires is slightly lower, but for directional tire is a bit noisier... no worries on that... but again noise level is very subjective coz every car has different sound insulation...


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