abaper ?

If RM3600 can't survive in KL, then those 2k plus staff might need to sleep across the street?

Salary RM3600 is more then enough to buy car & house with a average lifestyle. Anyway it really depend the lifestyle you living. If everyweek pub & clubbing, then you might having problem in your saving.

Average spending in KL will be

Food RM500
Rental RM400
Petrol RM300
Parking RM200
Car Loan RM600
Entertainment RM300
Internet & Mobile RM200

Total RM2500

So you still can save RM1100.

technical consultant in my job scope / line requires programming aka developer. i think it's more like hampalang pao sai

i was offered a higher pay as a permanent, but its too far from my current place. my current client site is just 10 mins away from my apartment

no need to worry la my friend $3600 is more than enough for single to survive in KL, just do some financial management, trust me.

Insurance? EPF and SOSCO contribution? Salary Tax? u miss out a lotz...

mine with same salary (rm3050 nett after deduct tax, socso, epf)

Food RM500 (inclusive belanja awek)
Rental RM450
Petrol RM100
Parking RM50
Entertainment RM300
Internet & Mobile RM200
Insurance rm150
Utilities rm50

If you have car, yes, its hard to survive.
I'm riding a kapchai and it saves me a lot in term of fuel cost.
thats not including mara/ptptn loan and give to parents

Hi thanks all for your replies. I never live in KL before only go there once years ago (quite suaku), now I have a better understanding. Thanks all.

wats ur job anyway ??
rm3600 is kind alot..

Job Title : Incident Management Coordinator
Job Desciption : IT outsourcing
Years spent in company : 2 Years
Company : MNC
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 5 years
Salary : RM 6600

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Added on November 15, 2009, 1:18 pm[quote=alex13,Sep 25 2009, 09:11 AM]Job Title : Program Officer
Job Desciption : Administrative, Program Control + Support
Years spent in company : 2 years
Company : MNC (Get Outsourced there)
Location: Penang
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : Outsourced (not contract)
Employment Level : Junior Executive
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : RM2500

I consider myself extremely underpaid lor. :S

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You are lucky to get 2500 as freshie in Penang.

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Added on November 15, 2009, 1:43 pm[/quote]

As everyone working as employee know how important is your qualification. With a degree mean you are in par. Without it, the Co. won't even look at your resume. With a higher qualification mean you are in prestigious position then other staff. Without a degree, no matter how hard you work you will unable to reach manager level in normal Co. Unless you start your own Co. or its ur father Co.

Anyway, sad to tell, time had change, our dad or grandfather work hard & excel moment its a pass. When come to promotion, your qualification come first, then only your achievement. Some of my colleague work for 20years with SPM, still at the same post. Other with degree, just work for 4years already in manager level.

Welcome to a realistic world, little boy. Join it or leave it.

Unless you wanna be businessman, then that's another story. Or doing sales, which just need to good in talking & convince people.
But if you wanna compare to working in those peanut Co. then so sad your at that level only.

How many people without a proper education earning >10k. And how many suffer to survive. Try to do some statistic & some study.

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I don't agree that without a degree you won't get promotion and earning more. I have many friends who don't have a degree and excel in their job and become manager. It depend on the company and also opportunity.

This post has been edited by sonerin: Nov 15 2009, 01:43 PM

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Added on November 15, 2009, 1:18 pm
You are lucky to get 2500 as freshie in Penang.

Ha, I worked for 2 yrs before I got 2.5k. Before that its sadder. That is why I say i consider myself underpaid after 2 years of working.

what do you think about the future of a design engineer?Normally the salary of design engineer can up to how much?

Hey Jonus,

Please answer the q below tq.

design engineer in what field? aeronautics? fmcg products? transistor design? drawing only? technicality?
how old are you? what interest you have? what design engineer field you want to go?
normally means? 1-2 years exp? 4-5 years exp?

help yourself by asking more specific questions, if not everyone will spam u with answers.(or is that what u wan, random answers?)

Age: 25
Job title: Network Analyst
Job Description: Computer Networking
Company/Industry: IT outsourcing
Location: Selangor
Tenure: Permanent
Experience before joining: 1 yr 10 months
Years spent in company : 6 months
Salary (Monthly): Basic Salary Rm4xxx + RM3xx Allowence
Education: Bachelor Degree from Local U + Some extra professional certs

"Getting higher paid" != "better quality of life"

This post has been edited by f.e.a.r: Nov 17 2009, 04:02 AM

Your pay is quite good.

I presume your "high pay" = "no life at all".

However, I believe "Getting higher pay NOW" = "Getting better quality of life in the FUTURE".

Job Title : Product Engineer
Job Desciption : Monitoring yield losses, product FA(failure analysis) & improve product quality, yield and reduce test time
Years spent in company : 5 month
Company : US MNC
Location: Selangor
Industry : Manufacturing
Employment Level : Engineer 1
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : RM 2.6k + meal allowance + 2 times of performance bonus each year(0-200%) + 1 month contractual bonus.
working hour: 8.00 to 5:30, usually go home~ 7PM to 10PM
Juz to share
How do you guys think about my pay?

if you can save money

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Added on November 18, 2009, 3:16 am

moderate for an engineer graduate working with a MNC in selangor.
need to work until 10pm? can claim OT??

This post has been edited by f.e.a.r: Nov 18 2009, 03:16 AM

Any1 here know know what is the average rate for a pianist at restaurant, shopping complex?
Full time monthly rate? n per hour basis?
Any idea? thx.

I presume you're working in a semicon company? Starting pay for fresh grads is around there..2.5k to 2.7k for Klang Valley standards. Working late is nothing unusual for mfg industry, but if everyday go back at 10pm, how long do you think you can survive this kind of life?

Is shift base or normal working hour?very good salary with the experience u hv.

so many engineers , IT related people.

where are those account lawyer ???